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1. Consuming too many carbs
Of the three main nutrients, carbohydrates produce the most gas because sugar and starch easily ferment. Half of us are endowed with bacteria that particularly prefer munching on unprocessed carbs -- unless you are like me, in which case tuna does the trick. As you might have guessed, beans contain more indigestible carbohydrates than most foods.

2. Consuming indigestible foods
Many daily foods are considered "indigestible" -- milk being one of them. Cow milk is unnatural to the human body, which is why a lot of people are lactose intolerant. Lactose intolerance means the body does not know how to digest milk, so it sets it aside as waste. If you happen to have a lot of "gas enzymes" in your system and you are lactose intolerant, even milk can make you fart.

3. Excessive enzymes
Each person's intestinal fauna is composed differently so people do not react similarly to the same foods. Two individuals can eat a meal rich in indigestible carbs and only one of them can develop gas, simply because his intestinal tract contains more enzymes. You might have heard people say that onions or apples give them gas, while others claim not to be affected. It all depends on the amount and type of bacteria in the large intestine.

4. Chewing and swallowing air
Chewing your food properly helps prevent gas because you alleviate your tract's workload, while chewing gum gives people flatulence because it makes them swallow more air than usual and because it animates the digestive system. Sometimes you burp, but other times air goes too deep into the digestive tract, leaving only one alternative: farting.

5. Intestinal infections
Finally, certain forms of intestinal infections cause flatulence. Eating contaminated food or drinking contaminated water will cause loose stools, bloating, cramps, and gas. When a person has an intestinal infection, the lining of the intestinal track thins and nutrients, again, get sent to the large intestine without being absorbed.

This also proves a theory I've indulged in.

Milk is unnatural for us to consume.

When I stopped drinking milk and all dairy, my skin cleared up and looke years younger. When the instestinal track is overworked or invaded by foreign unatural "food" other organs (of which the skin is one) react by trying to help eliminate some of the mucus formed by it. The mucus goes into the blood, out through your feases, and into your lungs. YOur skin tries to rid some of the chemicals that are created by this process---Milk is nasty nasty stuff.

AsianBoi777 said:

Yep. Me and milk do not agree

AsianBoi777 said:

I agree, although I would make an exception for human breastmilk, it is designed for humans, and entirely digestible for the species.

charlottegelin said:

AsianBoi777 said:

And (warning - grossness below)
















Milk has pus

sweetserene said:

Yup.

If there is ANY food item you want to drop from your list of bad foods, start with milk, before beef, sugar, and salt.

Milk is nasty , nasty, nasty.

I'm already vegetarian. I don't want to be more weird and difficult at dinners I guess I'll just avoid it at home but not be as stiff about it as I am about being veg.

How do you make sure to get enough calcium and stuff?

bkw said:

It's OK, Beer agrees with me enormously!

charlottegelin said:

sweetserene said:

calcium supplements. my mum has been taking them for years without drinking milk, she's nearly 60, and her bone density was equivalent to a 20 year old. You have to combine it with lots of weight bearing exercise too (ie. not swimming).

sweetserene said:

Brocoli and Spinach have as much calcium as milk.

AsianBoi777 said:

Maybe not as much, but it is a much more digestible form of calcium, and therefore similar quantities can be absorbed. Broccoli is a super food in every way.

charlottegelin said:

Exercise :wrinklingnose: Okay

I worry about getting all my b12 and proteins etc. as a vegetarian but I get most of it back from consuming a lot of dairy. So I'm concerned, health-wise..
I'll have to talk to my nutritionist

sweetserene said:

Read "Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina and you'll see that the idea that you have to eat meat products for b-12 is a myth.

I'm not vegan, but I will go for days without eating meat--it's expensive and grose if you think about it. Just think about it--it's something you have to cook (the process of chemically altering the substance to the point where it developes carcinogens) in order to keep it from making you sick? ew.

AsianBoi777 said:

Okay I will pick up that book. Thanks

there's another major cause of 'farts', and whenever i see that ad for 'irritable bowel syndrome' i just hope none of the people taking the meds for that work in food service. .. ..

What is a parasite?"

It is an organism that invades and survives off its host. They are tiny organisms and are opportunistic, hence their effects on the body often go unrecognized.

Human parasites include the protozoa group (organisms with only one cell) and helminths (worms).

There is mounting evidence that parasitic infestations are more common than previously thought (Leo Galland. Power Healing. Random House New York, 1997; Duke, J.A., handbook of Medicinal Herbs. CRC Press Boca Raton, Florida, 1985).

In the host, parasites can co-exist with yeast and bacteria. Together they interfere with the host's vital processes through secretions, excretions and other toxic products.

Unfortunately, few people realize the damage such organisms may have on their long-term health.

Health professionals are now beginning to understand how these unfriendly organisms may interfere with our digestive processes as well as cause wide spread ill health (Leo Galland. Power Healing. Random House New York, 1997; Crook, W. The Yeast Connection, Professional Books, Jackson, Tenn., 1994; Bland, J. The 20-Day Rejuvenation Diet Program. Keats Publ. Inc., 1997)



"How do I recognize the symptoms of parasites?"

Associated symptoms and potential indicators include:

abdominal bloating
flatulence (gas)
abdominal pain
diarrhoea
constipation
foul smelling stools
bowel irritation
joint and muscle pain
heartburn
headaches
bad breath
fluid retention
food sensitivities
allergy
sugar cravings
mental confusion
fatigue
malaise

sweetserene said:

Talking to a nutritionist is a great idea.

Lots of foods have calcium, including almonds, most dark leafy green veggies (kale, broccoli, spinach), most types of tofu, some dried fruits, lots of fortified foods (orange juice, soymilk). . .and supplements, of course.

Also, vegans probably need less calcium than omnivores. High protein, high phosophorous animal products cause calcium to be lost from the body via chemistry that I don't understand well enought to explain. But in any case, the full 1000mg (or however much is being suggested this week) is probably not necessary if you're not eating animal products.

Notably, there are many countries where dairy products are not a normal part of the diet, and those countries do not have higher rates of osteoporosis. Food for thought.
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tackam said:

Thank for the info

sweetserene said:

Really? I never even knew that. That's gross!!!!!

What used to make me a lot was . Once I quit drinking the stuff (and all carbonated beverages, for that matter), the problem went away. Go figure.

psychodelicide said:

Milk is, after all, a cow body fluid. It contains both red blood cells (blood) and white blood cells (pus).

Plus, cows in big factory farms frequently have mastitis, which is an infection of the udders. Infection = pus.

Yuck, I never knew that either, tackam. Thanks for the 411.

i swear, i can't afford to eat properly. sad sad sad.

JasmineFire said:

Why? Veggies and legumes are cheap compared to other foods.

Great thread


Interesting information

tackam said:

Fortified orange juice? Not if you're vegan. At some point in the recent past, the manufacturers of calcium-fortified orange juice started adding vitamin D as well. That's actually a good idea, as vitamin D aids in calcium absorption. But here's the problem for vegans: for whatever reason, it's always vitamin D3, which is always animal-based. What you want is vitamin D2, which is always plant-based, and is what you'll find in some other fortified products, such as Silk soymilk.

The one exception I've found is Simply Orange, which produces a calcium-fortified OJ without any vitamin D. Their distribution isn't the greatest, though... I've noticed that many supermarkets don't carry it.

The bigger problem here is the tendency of vegetarians and vegans to rely on fortified foods and supplements to meet their dietary needs. Consider: if your diet needs supplementation to be adequate, then the diet itself is necessary inadequate. (Modus Tollens in action, for those of you who have studied logic.)

While I realize that whether a food is "natural" or not is, strictly speaking, irrelevant to the question of whether it's vegetarian or vegan, many folks who promote this type of diet want their food "natural" (e.g., they want organic produce and GMO-free foods). And yet when they're questioned about possible nutritional deficiencies, they suggest... fortified "Frankenfoods" or popping pills (supplements)?

AsianBoi777 said:

Neither is soy that's been processed in such a way to make it look and taste like a hamburger, but I haven't heard of vegetarians avoiding Boca Burgers because they're "unnatural."

(BTW, Boca Burgers are a product of Altria Group, formerly known as Philip Morris. If you buy Boca Burgers, you're putting money in the pockets of "Big Tobacco.")

The natural/unnatural distiniction is a poor litmus test for putting together a healthy diet. Most foods in these modern times are hardly "natural." I just took a look in the fridge, and while we admittedly need to do some grocery shopping, the only "natural" things I saw were two oranges and two lemons. And even those aren't "natural" here in western Washington state, where the climate is such that growing citrus fruit is difficult, if not impossible.