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Thread started 09/03/03 10:45am

stymie

Former Beyonce 'hater'.

While I still believe she can't really sing worth a damn, I will no longer hate on Beyonce for showing ass to sell records, especially since my favorite musician has not only used sex to sell his records but has used females and their assets to sell sex as well.
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Reply #1 posted 09/03/03 11:22am

Chico319

And might your favourite singer be? hmmm


:LOL: wink
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Reply #2 posted 09/03/03 11:23am

stymie

Chico319 said:

And might your favourite singer be? hmmm


:LOL: wink
Hmmm, Chico...I dunno...but I think he wore assless pants on television once. lol
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Reply #3 posted 09/03/03 11:23am

supermodel85

stymie said:

While I still believe she can't really sing worth a damn, I will no longer hate on Beyonce for showing ass to sell records, especially since my favorite musician has not only used sex to sell his records but has used females and their assets to sell sex as well.


Idiot
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Reply #4 posted 09/03/03 11:25am

Chico319

stymie said:

Chico319 said:

And might your favourite singer be? hmmm


:LOL: wink
Hmmm, Chico...I dunno...but I think he wore assless pants on television once. lol



confuse Howard Stern? mr.green
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Reply #5 posted 09/03/03 11:25am

stymie

Chico319 said:

stymie said:

Chico319 said:

And might your favourite singer be? hmmm


:LOL: wink
Hmmm, Chico...I dunno...but I think he wore assless pants on television once. lol



confuse Howard Stern? mr.green
Damn. I forgot about that!!!lol
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Reply #6 posted 09/03/03 11:27am

stymie

supermodel85 said:

stymie said:

While I still believe she can't really sing worth a damn, I will no longer hate on Beyonce for showing ass to sell records, especially since my favorite musician has not only used sex to sell his records but has used females and their assets to sell sex as well.


Idiot
Are you calling me an idiot? lol At least tell me why. Is it because I say she can't sing or the Prince thing or is it because I said she shows ass to sell records?
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Reply #7 posted 09/03/03 11:29am

Chico319

stymie said:

Chico319 said:

stymie said:

Chico319 said:

And might your favourite singer be? hmmm


:LOL: wink
Hmmm, Chico...I dunno...but I think he wore assless pants on television once. lol



confuse Howard Stern? mr.green
Damn. I forgot about that!!!lol


I wish I COULD! :ILL:
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Reply #8 posted 09/03/03 11:36am

supermodel85

stymie said:

supermodel85 said:

stymie said:

While I still believe she can't really sing worth a damn, I will no longer hate on Beyonce for showing ass to sell records, especially since my favorite musician has not only used sex to sell his records but has used females and their assets to sell sex as well.


Idiot
Are you calling me an idiot? lol At least tell me why. Is it because I say she can't sing or the Prince thing or is it because I said she shows ass to sell records?

Because you said Beyonce' couldn't sing. I beg to differ. I guess that whole "idiot" thing was a little harsh. But know that it had nothing to do with Prince being your favorite artist because he's definetly one of mine.
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Reply #9 posted 09/03/03 11:40am

stymie

supermodel85 said:

stymie said:

supermodel85 said:

stymie said:

While I still believe she can't really sing worth a damn, I will no longer hate on Beyonce for showing ass to sell records, especially since my favorite musician has not only used sex to sell his records but has used females and their assets to sell sex as well.


Idiot
Are you calling me an idiot? lol At least tell me why. Is it because I say she can't sing or the Prince thing or is it because I said she shows ass to sell records?

Because you said Beyonce' couldn't sing. I beg to differ. I guess that whole "idiot" thing was a little harsh. But know that it had nothing to do with Prince being your favorite artists because he's definetly one of mine.
We all are entitled to our opinions and in MY opinion, she isn't a very good singer, but she is very good at shaking her ass so I'll give her that much.
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Reply #10 posted 09/03/03 12:04pm

Chico319

Did this have anything to do with the Mtv performance? lol
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Reply #11 posted 09/03/03 12:11pm

Moonbeam

I still can't stand her. sad
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Reply #12 posted 09/03/03 12:25pm

stymie

Chico319 said:

Did this have anything to do with the Mtv performance? lol
To be perfectly honest Chico, yes. Over at NPGMC, there was a thread dedicated to her talking about how classy she is. Seeing as I get attacked a lot, I didn't respond at first. I'm glad I didn't. Later in the thread, NuPowerSoul came in and once again broke it down. After reading what he said, I kinda put things into perspective. If it's not cool what Beyonce is doing, then what Prince was doing wasn't cool either. We can't have it both ways.
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Reply #13 posted 09/03/03 12:39pm

UptownDeb

Ditto on the assless pants thing! smile
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Reply #14 posted 09/03/03 12:41pm

DigitalLisa

I still can't stand her deep sounding man voice self lol Just because u spend 10,000 on a Gucci dress don't mean you have class.....

Class edit
[This message was edited Wed Sep 3 12:46:09 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]
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Reply #15 posted 09/03/03 1:08pm

whodknee

stymie said:

Chico319 said:

Did this have anything to do with the Mtv performance? lol
To be perfectly honest Chico, yes. Over at NPGMC, there was a thread dedicated to her talking about how classy she is. Seeing as I get attacked a lot, I didn't respond at first. I'm glad I didn't. Later in the thread, NuPowerSoul came in and once again broke it down. After reading what he said, I kinda put things into perspective. If it's not cool what Beyonce is doing, then what Prince was doing wasn't cool either. We can't have it both ways.


Much of what Prince was doing wasn't cool and he'd tell you that himself. The difference between him doing it and Beyonce is that there was substance to go along with it. I, and many others tend to overlook certain things Prince did or does that put us off because at the end of the day it was still about the music. As for Beyonce... hmmm
Atleast she has a decent singing voice. smile
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Reply #16 posted 09/03/03 1:22pm

stymie

whodknee said:

stymie said:

Chico319 said:

Did this have anything to do with the Mtv performance? lol
To be perfectly honest Chico, yes. Over at NPGMC, there was a thread dedicated to her talking about how classy she is. Seeing as I get attacked a lot, I didn't respond at first. I'm glad I didn't. Later in the thread, NuPowerSoul came in and once again broke it down. After reading what he said, I kinda put things into perspective. If it's not cool what Beyonce is doing, then what Prince was doing wasn't cool either. We can't have it both ways.


Much of what Prince was doing wasn't cool and he'd tell you that himself. The difference between him doing it and Beyonce is that there was substance to go along with it. I, and many others tend to overlook certain things Prince did or does that put us off because at the end of the day it was still about the music. As for Beyonce... hmmm
Atleast she has a decent singing voice. smile
I really hate to say this, whodknee, but I am one of the biggest freaks on the planet and some of the shit P used to do turned me off. I was thinking the same thing: P had substance behind what he was doing but, when it comes to Appolonia or Vanity 6, there is no substance there at all. We won't even talk about the Melt With U video. Same shit, different day. A friend and fellow orger has been trying to get me to separate what Prince the man does from what Prince the musician does. How much shit are we letting him slide with because of who he is?
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Reply #17 posted 09/03/03 2:46pm

anemone

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I actually didn't care for her (too overexposed) until I saw her VMA performance. She looked and sounded great. I bought the cd. It's pretty good, at least the first half. I like her voice (comparable to Christina). That's my 2 cents.
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Reply #18 posted 09/03/03 3:34pm

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I see the old .orgers still have selective memory. When Prince was doing the half naked dressed like a chick almost in drag thing during his "Dirty Mind" days, it was okay to be sexy? Even comparing Beyonc'e - a WOMAN who is almost in this day and age FORCED to dress "sexy" in order to attain the same status, is RIDICULOUS. She is a POP STAR. When Prince was a pop star, he did it too. Reason: TO SELL RECORDS. REGARDLESS TO HOW YOU DRESS IT UP. Excusing Prince for the same actions is just plainidolworship at its finest. Prince was man a "manwhore" selling sex just like Beyonc'e is having to "whore it up" to maintain her star status in light of her competition for the pop queen throne. Besides, anyone who spends a large amount of time on their looks probably wants the attention. Prince did it, Ginuine & Usher do thousands of sit-ups to get the abs. Practically every woman and man in Hollywierd who is considered a "sex symbol" is pressured into working out and looking good or else they'll go to their fansites and see posts about how BAD they look and they'll see pics they want to forget on every tabloid mag they pass. Lighten up on Bey. She CAN sing...that's without a doubt. Her SINGING voice is NOT man-like at all. And for all we know, she may not have as much control over what she wears as we assume. Maybe daddy Knowles is putting his "pimp hand" down and making her keep it short n' sexy to keep the dough flowin'. Maybe its the label trying to capitalize on her "assets".
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Reply #19 posted 09/03/03 5:33pm

DigitalLisa

BlaqueKnight said:

[color=blue:2909438274:d350c0a535:11f83e792d:b6b822fdf2:ad23a7e0c6]I see the old .orgers still have selective memory. When Prince was doing the half naked dressed like a chick almost in drag thing during his "Dirty Mind" days, it was okay to be sexy? Even comparing Beyonc'e - a WOMAN who is almost in this day and age FORCED to dress "sexy" in order to attain the same status, is RIDICULOUS. She is a POP STAR. When Prince was a pop star, he did it too. Reason: TO SELL RECORDS. REGARDLESS TO HOW YOU DRESS IT UP. Excusing Prince for the same actions is just plainidolworship at its finest. Prince was man a "manwhore" selling sex just like Beyonc'e is having to "whore it up" to maintain her star status in light of her competition for the pop queen throne. Besides, anyone who spends a large amount of time on their looks probably wants the attention. Prince did it, Ginuine & Usher do thousands of sit-ups to get the abs. Practically every woman and man in Hollywierd who is considered a "sex symbol" is pressured into working out and looking good or else they'll go to their fansites and see posts about how BAD they look and they'll see pics they want to forget on every tabloid mag they pass. Lighten up on Bey. She CAN sing...that's without a doubt. Her SINGING voice is NOT man-like at all. And for all we know, she may not have as much control over what she wears as we assume. Maybe daddy Knowles is putting his "pimp hand" down and making her keep it short n' sexy to keep the dough flowin'. Maybe its the label trying to capitalize on her "assets".

the difference between Prince and Beyonce is ...

Beyonce is trying 2 be sexy 4 record sales(like a whole heap of them other female entertainers)

Prince is sexy and was sexy he didn't have to "try 2 be" something 4 anyone. He was doing things that people never done before, talking about stuff people where afraid 2 talk about, nowadays that ish is so tired and people talk about it 2 much.....

Most of those songs Prince was singing about crazy sex affairs where probably true.where as Beyonce was probably still a virgin until she meant Jay z

Do y'all see what i'm sayn' Beyonce fakin' the funk when Prince is the real deal and that makes a whole lotta hell of a difference nod

fakin the funk edit
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Reply #20 posted 09/03/03 9:05pm

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DigitalLisa said:

I still can't stand her deep sounding man voice self lol Just because u spend 10,000 on a Gucci dress don't mean you have class...

Class edit
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Beyonce is a dramatic coloratura soprano - the type with the highest and most dynamic range, how the hell does she have a "deep sounding man voice"? That's completely illogical.




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Reply #21 posted 09/03/03 10:27pm

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DigitalLisa said:


the difference between Prince and Beyonce is ...

Beyonce is trying 2 be sexy 4 record sales(like a whole heap of them other female entertainers)

Prince is sexy and was sexy he didn't have to "try 2 be" something 4 anyone. He was doing things that people never done before, talking about stuff people where afraid 2 talk about, nowadays that ish is so tired and people talk about it 2 much...

Most of those songs Prince was singing about crazy sex affairs where probably true.where as Beyonce was probably still a virgin until she meant Jay z

Do y'all see what i'm sayn' Beyonce fakin' the funk when Prince is the real deal and that makes a whole lotta hell of a difference nod

fakin the funk edit
[This message was edited Wed Sep 3 17:39:14 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]





Well personally, I find Bey a HELL of a lot sexier than Prince.
Secondly, from the first time I saw Desitny's Child live, I knew Beyonc'e had "IT". I didn't know who they were, but I knew that she took control of the stage and burned it up. She may be playing the game, but she's not faking the funk.
Thirdly, I have no idea who she has been sleping with...nor do I care. It hasn't been ME sad , so I could care less. Where is it written that every singer has to live everything they sing about? When was Prince working in a "five and dime" when he met the chick in the raspberry beret? How many trips has he taken to actually determine how things are in "Space"? ...anyway, I don't think Beyonc'e is doing anything other than trying to make a career for herself. Like Prince, she is entertaining to some and less to others. Unlike Prince fans, I'm not going to bash anyone for not liking her; I'm just saying that she CAN sing (even if you don't like what or how she sings) and she IS sexy...if she ain't, I'm curious to know who you think IS and what qualifies a woman to be sexy to YOU?
Personally, I wish the sista well.
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Reply #22 posted 09/04/03 5:35am

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She's wearing a wig. This post has nothing to do with what's being said in this thread, but I thought I'd point it out. She also wears too much make-up.

On another note, has anyone seen her video for "Baby Boy"? Man...Jay-Z must have made a deal with the devil.
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Reply #23 posted 09/04/03 6:23am

stymie

lameless said:



She's wearing a wig. This post has nothing to do with what's being said in this thread, but I thought I'd point it out. She also wears too much make-up.

On another note, has anyone seen her video for "Baby Boy"? Man...Jay-Z must have made a deal with the devil.
I haven't seen the video but I saw the making of it. I read somewhere that Prince regretted some of the stuff he did in the past, I hope Miss Beyonce doesn't regret what she's doing now. As far as what Lisa and BlaqueKnight said, I agree with a lot of what both of you said, if that's possible.
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Reply #24 posted 09/04/03 7:04am

BRO915

I think Beyonce is gonna be around for awhile{just my honest opinion}. She has that "something" that's hard to describe that's different from all of the other female pop artists out there now-a-days. She definitely has stage presence and can work a crowd. If she keeps at it she can definitely become a bona-fide live performer. Here's hoping she can stretch out and expand as an artist...
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Reply #25 posted 09/04/03 11:53am

supermodel85

DigitalLisa said:

I still can't stand her deep sounding man voice self lol Just because u spend 10,000 on a Gucci dress don't mean you have class...

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You don't sound very classy.
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Reply #26 posted 09/04/03 12:06pm

supermodel85

I agree 100% with BlaqueKnight. I'm glad that someone finally said that. And who cares if Beyonce wears wigs. She has hair & even if she didn't, the wigs look good on her.
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Reply #27 posted 09/04/03 1:51pm

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lameless said:

She also wears too much make-up.




So does Prince.
And let's not speak of hair:



Let's NOT go there. Prince would be gettin' his ASS KICKED on the regular if he grew up where I'm from lookin' like he does sometimes. I'm not dissin' his style. Sometimes he's smooth as silk. Other times, not so much. Same with Bey...or ANYBODY for that matter.
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Yeah, but it's apples and oranges to me. When Prince did it, I think he did it for the shock of it all. Beyonce wears wigs and too much make-up because she probably thinks she looks better that way. Their intentions are too different to compare, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, the girl is FINE. But without the smoke and mirrors (wigs, make-up, microphone tricks, half-nakedness) she would be even more attractive. Then more people could focus on her talent and not her body. Her supple body. Her toned, oiled body. Did I mention the "Baby Boy" video? I'm talking about the end of the video when she's dancing in the sand. Man...
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Reply #29 posted 09/04/03 5:02pm

DigitalLisa

BlaqueKnight said:

DigitalLisa said:


the difference between Prince and Beyonce is ...

Beyonce is trying 2 be sexy 4 record sales(like a whole heap of them other female entertainers)

Prince is sexy and was sexy he didn't have to "try 2 be" something 4 anyone. He was doing things that people never done before, talking about stuff people where afraid 2 talk about, nowadays that ish is so tired and people talk about it 2 much...

Most of those songs Prince was singing about crazy sex affairs where probably true.where as Beyonce was probably still a virgin until she meant Jay z

Do y'all see what i'm sayn' Beyonce fakin' the funk when Prince is the real deal and that makes a whole lotta hell of a difference nod

fakin the funk edit
[This message was edited Wed Sep 3 17:39:14 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]





[color=blue:dba93ed213:c16f0c987a]Well personally, I find Bey a HELL of a lot sexier than Prince.
Secondly, from the first time I saw Desitny's Child live, I knew Beyonc'e had "IT". I didn't know who they were, but I knew that she took control of the stage and burned it up. She may be playing the game, but she's not faking the funk.
Thirdly, I have no idea who she has been sleping with...nor do I care. It hasn't been ME sad , so I could care less. Where is it written that every singer has to live everything they sing about? When was Prince working in a "five and dime" when he met the chick in the raspberry beret? How many trips has he taken to actually determine how things are in "Space"? ...anyway, I don't think Beyonc'e is doing anything other than trying to make a career for herself. Like Prince, she is entertaining to some and less to others. Unlike Prince fans, I'm not going to bash anyone for not liking her; I'm just saying that she CAN sing (even if you don't like what or how she sings) and she IS sexy...if she ain't, I'm curious to know who you think IS and what qualifies a woman to be sexy to YOU?
Personally, I wish the sista well.

What I think is sexy has nothing to do with the outer persona, it’s all about the inner beauty and what’s going on inside of yo mentality baby. Beyonce does not have the stamina 2 ever stimulate my conciseness, she tries way to hard if u ya ask me, when Prince didn’t have to try at all. He simply just is.
Right now Beyonce is considered as the next big thing, but ten 2 twelve years from now she’ll probably be reminiscing about her fifteen minutes of fame………… now does that answer ur question rolleyes
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