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Thread started 05/20/03 2:11pm

XLBubba

NEW PRINCE LYRICS: White Folk Beware

new lyrix int he VS room
New lyrix from Prince in the Vs room:

THE MOORS IN SPAIN
by Prince (incomplete)

If this great African culture were alive 2day
We’d b 400 years more advanced
From Arabia they came 2 blossom in Spain
And 2 the beat of the drum they danced

Masters of the Arts and all industry
While France, England and all Germany
Wallowed in the mire of their own bigotry
The Moors were the ones who were truly free

Civilization came 2 Europe thru the Greek
Who were simply Africans who came from the Nile
The Greeks gave it 2 Rome who lost their way home
And it stayed that way 4 quite a while

Under their own misconception of Christianity
The barbaric (?) Europeans suffered greatly
While the Catholic Church was staking it’s claim
The Moors were making great gains
Introducing strawberries, lemons and sugarcane
Algebra, chemistry from the Moors this all came
Their contributions 2 knowledge, 2 numerous 2 name
While in Europe there were no public libraries, the Moors in Spain
Had 70, 600 thousand manuscripts and 17 universities

Not hardly a prisoner in the mind of society
In the Spain the Moors were once truly free

The one who is most gifted cannot lead the way in a world that never respected authority…
The sword of the Moor would have never left its sheath if the longhaired barbarian who opposed them would have only seen
That 2 win a war against the so-called “black infidels”
Brings about a peace that cannot last
But I guess all’s well that ends well… well it ain’t over



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Go cry for the revolution.
[This message was edited Tue May 20 14:14:27 PDT 2003 by XLBubba]
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Reply #1 posted 05/20/03 2:25pm

SassyPants

XLBubba said:

new lyrix int he VS room
New lyrix from Prince in the Vs room:

THE MOORS IN SPAIN
by Prince (incomplete)

If this great African culture were alive 2day
We’d b 400 years more advanced
From Arabia they came 2 blossom in Spain
And 2 the beat of the drum they danced

Masters of the Arts and all industry
While France, England and all Germany
Wallowed in the mire of their own bigotry
The Moors were the ones who were truly free

Civilization came 2 Europe thru the Greek
Who were simply Africans who came from the Nile
The Greeks gave it 2 Rome who lost their way home
And it stayed that way 4 quite a while

Under their own misconception of Christianity
The barbaric (?) Europeans suffered greatly
While the Catholic Church was staking it’s claim
The Moors were making great gains
Introducing strawberries, lemons and sugarcane
Algebra, chemistry from the Moors this all came
Their contributions 2 knowledge, 2 numerous 2 name
While in Europe there were no public libraries, the Moors in Spain
Had 70, 600 thousand manuscripts and 17 universities

Not hardly a prisoner in the mind of society
In the Spain the Moors were once truly free

The one who is most gifted cannot lead the way in a world that never respected authority…
The sword of the Moor would have never left its sheath if the longhaired barbarian who opposed them would have only seen
That 2 win a war against the so-called “black infidels”
Brings about a peace that cannot last
But I guess all’s well that ends well… well it ain’t over



--

Go cry for the revolution.
[This message was edited Tue May 20 14:14:27 PDT 2003 by XLBubba]


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Reply #2 posted 05/20/03 2:33pm

jimipaisley

Old news!
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Reply #3 posted 05/20/03 3:26pm

Phil

don't really see this as offensive to white people.

maybe old western white man culture. but not these days.
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Reply #4 posted 05/20/03 3:29pm

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Phil said:

don't really see this as offensive to white people.

maybe old western white man culture. but not these days.

I totally agree with you Phil... nod
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Reply #5 posted 05/20/03 3:31pm

VelvetSplash

I'd like to hear the song, I didn't pay expecting to read fucking lyrics.
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Reply #6 posted 05/20/03 4:50pm

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I hate to say it, but I feel it's a little offensive. Like I once heard in a song... "I don't care why those before us hated each other - I'd rather believe they never did!"
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Reply #7 posted 05/20/03 6:47pm

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Sounds like a hit.
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Reply #8 posted 05/20/03 7:08pm

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toejam said:

I hate to say it, but I feel it's a little offensive. Like I once heard in a song... "I don't care why those before us hated each other - I'd rather believe they never did!"



You feel this and that's okay. But like it or not, it's the truth.

What's that old saying?...Sometime the truth hurts.
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Reply #9 posted 05/20/03 11:31pm

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chookalana said:

toejam said:

I hate to say it, but I feel it's a little offensive. Like I once heard in a song... "I don't care why those before us hated each other - I'd rather believe they never did!"



You feel this and that's okay. But like it or not, it's the truth.

What's that old saying?...Sometime the truth hurts.


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Reply #10 posted 05/20/03 11:51pm

origmnd

IT'S A MISSPRINT!!!

should've read MOOPS...
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Reply #11 posted 05/20/03 11:56pm

Supernova

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's gonna be a long thread...
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #12 posted 05/21/03 12:00am

stymie

Could someone who sees racism in these lyrics please point it out to me cuz I don't see it.
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Reply #13 posted 05/21/03 1:41am

abierman

I wish he would get back to his filthy sex-lyrics and leave this religion-race Bullshit! What the hell does he kno about Europe and Africa anyway? He's from Minneapolis!
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Reply #14 posted 05/21/03 1:49am

andyf

"Gather every man, gather every woman, celebrate your life, look after the children" (Harvest for the World)

"Let the children play" (Santana)

"Young so educated they never grow old" (Prince/0+>)


No matter what colour you are, "accurate knowledge of Christ and the Father" will soothe feelings of anxiety, methinks biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 05/21/03 1:51am

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Well, if the moors were so fucking clever, why aren't they in control? Sounds like they had a good head start (in the "Prince's stupid book of twisted history and other great tales"...)

What makes me laugh about this prince rambling is that he identifies that European civilisation came from the greeks, which came from the nile, which is Africa.

So where is the fucking problem? According to his words, Europe is an extension from africa. So unless some new race beamed down from space, the problems would be african based as well.

Prince seems to want to divide history into simple rights and wrongs, and try and make us feel sorry for small pockets of failed civilisation, which Larry says should rule the world!

Gotta love it.
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Reply #16 posted 05/21/03 1:53am

IstenSzek

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As I said,

Othello was a Moor, so they musta looked like Laurence Olivier.

No need for white folk to worrie there lol
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Reply #17 posted 05/21/03 1:54am

Therapy

abierman said:

I wish he would get back to his filthy sex-lyrics and leave this religion-race Bullshit! What the hell does he kno about Europe and Africa anyway? He's from Minneapolis!


So do you only know about the town/city you come from? That's ridiculous! History can be found out, if one wants to take the trouble to think about it.
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Reply #18 posted 05/21/03 1:59am

Therapy

My personal thoughts are that he feels the need to make a point for his own reasons. I agree with things that he has said like 'I'd rather believe they never did, I'd rather believe, There's hope for a kid...' (Race) I don't understand really, as I've not looked into the history, what this about, and I am wondering what purpose it serves to be getting in touch with it?

Maybe it helps to fuel his mission into doing the work? Who knows.
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Reply #19 posted 05/21/03 2:16am

Cloudbuster

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Therapy said:

Maybe it helps to fuel his mission into doing the work? Who knows.


He should quit doing the Work 'cos it's getting boring.
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Reply #20 posted 05/21/03 3:18am

unremarkable

I used to love Prince.

*sigh*

Now, at last, he truly is one sandwich short of a picnic.

I wish he'd join the Witnesses full time and put paid to my hoping that he's going to regain some semblance of sanity at some point.
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Reply #21 posted 05/21/03 3:24am

DavidEye

Where are you guys hearing this new song at??
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Reply #22 posted 05/21/03 3:24am

Cloudbuster

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unremarkable said:

I used to love Prince.

*sigh*

Now, at last, he truly is one sandwich short of a picnic.

I wish he'd join the Witnesses full time and put paid to my hoping that he's going to regain some semblance of sanity at some point.


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Reply #23 posted 05/21/03 3:28am

calldapplwonde
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DavidEye said:

Where are you guys hearing this new song at??


Nowhere. Just those lyrics are posted in the NPGMC's VS room.
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Reply #24 posted 05/21/03 9:03am

Jagjams

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SquirrelMeat said:

Well, if the moors were so fucking clever, why aren't they in control? Sounds like they had a good head start (in the "Prince's stupid book of twisted history and other great tales"...)

Evidently a Moor has been taking your money since you figured out what funk was. Pay attention and you might learn moor.

What makes me laugh about this prince rambling is that he identifies that European civilisation came from the greeks, which came from the nile, which is Africa.

It is funny isnt it?

So where is the fucking problem? According to his words, Europe is an extension from africa. So unless some new race beamed down from space, the problems would be african based as well.

Yeah right just like Bush inherited a fucked up economy from Clinton. It aint his fault shits all fucked up beyond belief.

Prince seems to want to divide history into simple rights and wrongs, and try and make us feel sorry for small pockets of failed civilisation, which Larry says should rule the world!

Why you putting words in that man's mouth? He meant what he said. If theres one thing everybody black knows its that racists arent sorry for shit.

Gotta love it.
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Reply #25 posted 05/21/03 9:13am

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stymie said:

Could someone who sees racism in these lyrics please point it out to me cuz I don't see it.

ditto, cuz all i see are lyrix that would work well if the "schoolhouse rock" series were 2 come out with some stuff 4 advanced history.

geek
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Reply #26 posted 05/21/03 9:17am

NuPwrSoul

"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #27 posted 05/21/03 9:17am

Edance

origmnd said:

IT'S A MISSPRINT!!!

should've read MOOPS...


LMAO!

Origmnd, you know your classics...
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Reply #28 posted 05/21/03 9:32am

SquirrelMeat

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Jagjams said:

Evidently a Moor has been taking your money since you figured out what funk was. Pay attention and you might learn moor.

Why you putting words in that man's mouth? He meant what he said. If theres one thing everybody black knows its that racists arent sorry for shit.

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I was using something called irony.

The funny thing is, Prince is using the term "Moors", which is a name given made up by the Greeks and Romans, which if my memory serves, translated to something like "the dark ones", refering to arabs and africans.

So the man who doesn't like wrong names, is using one himself.

He also missed out a very important point. The "Moors" invaded spain! Some time around 700AD, I can't remember the exact year.

Whatever lesson Prince is taking, they are only giving him half the facts. Thats dangerous, particularly as he has an audience to influence.

Lucky for us, most fans know his babble. He'd gain a lot more respect is he properly researched his facts, particularly on history outside the USA.
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Reply #29 posted 05/21/03 9:38am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Well, if the moors were so fucking clever, why aren't they in control? Sounds like they had a good head start (in the "Prince's stupid book of twisted history and other great tales"...)

What makes me laugh about this prince rambling is that he identifies that European civilisation came from the greeks, which came from the nile, which is Africa.

So where is the fucking problem? According to his words, Europe is an extension from africa. So unless some new race beamed down from space, the problems would be african based as well.

Prince seems to want to divide history into simple rights and wrongs, and try and make us feel sorry for small pockets of failed civilisation, which Larry says should rule the world!

Gotta love it.


He's just pointing out that much of Greek culture was derived from the Egyptians. The Romans in turn took on many aspects of the Greeks. This doesn't conflict with his over all point. Where he really is off base is holding the Moors up as an example of true African culture. There cutler was heavily influenced by the Arabs who had invaded northern Africa some 100 years earlier. If anything the Carthaginians being defeated by Rome, is the main reason African cutler doesn't play a major role in the western world today. Either way, this is hardly a subject most Prince fans care to hear him address.
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