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Thread started 09/21/02 3:48am

Thecherryloon

best Camille song? and a question about that girl.

gotta be 'if i was your girlfriend' a Beautiful song.my personal favourite above everything else Prince ever made.

can someone tell me Camilles earliest appearance and how many songs are generally thought to be Camille?
are erotic city, Love or money or Feel U up Camille? they're credited to Prince but they ARE Camille.Aren't they?

I love Prince's alter-ego!
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Reply #1 posted 09/21/02 3:52am

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REPOST...

Question: how do you determine when it's Camille? I always thought "Camille" was a certain era for him, that the persona had a place in time & wasn't necessarily a "style" he'd revisit - am I wrong? Maybe I should think about this some more, lol... confuse
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Reply #2 posted 09/21/02 3:52am

Natasha

I love Camille and I love that song it's great. That Camille voice and on Expert Lover oh my God. That song just like blows ya away. It's very trippy Expert Lover.
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Reply #3 posted 09/21/02 3:59am

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Natasha said:[quote]I love Camille and I love that song it's great. That Camille voice and on Expert Lover oh my God. That song just like blows ya away. It's very trippy Expert Lover. I forgot about Feel you up remember it was Fill you up? Oh Lord ! AAAHHH!!! Damn U! This man is doing the Nasty again got me thinking about sex. Prince and Camille are so bad wasn't it just the time period around 1987? Crystal Ball. Crystal Ball...
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Reply #4 posted 09/21/02 3:59am

Thecherryloon

another question about Camille - does he lay the track down first and then speed up his voice to fit it?
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Reply #5 posted 09/21/02 4:00am

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CalhounSq said:

REPOST...

Question: how do you determine when it's Camille? I always thought "Camille" was a certain era for him, that the persona had a place in time & wasn't necessarily a "style" he'd revisit - am I wrong? Maybe I should think about this some more, lol... confuse


When his voice is pitched higher, mostly songs recorded in 1986/87
examples: Shockadelica, Feel u up, dream factory, crystal ball, IF i was.., Scarlet Pussy, Rockhard in a funky place,

I vote 4 Shockadelica as the funkiest one.

I made a Camille-tape once!
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Reply #6 posted 09/21/02 4:03am

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'Come on' is a song in Camille-style.. it features the same high-pitched voice, a bit lower though than the 'real' Camille songs.
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Reply #7 posted 09/21/02 4:03am

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Favorite Camille song? hmm. "If I Was Your Girlfriend" probably. Although "Rebirth of the Flesh" is darn close.

He has many songs with the voice spead up like Erotic City, Love or Money, Dream Factory, Crystal Ball, one of the versions of Witness, Partyman, Good Man, Baby Knows, Come On, Lovesexy, and a few more. I imagine he uses this technique with backing vocals as well.

But as far as actual songs credited to Camille, all of them were from '86 as far as I know. They are: Rebirth of the Flesh, Housequake, If I Was Your Girlfriend, Strange Relationship, U Got The Look, Feel U Up, Good Love, Shockadelica, Rockhard In A Funky Place, and Scarlet Pussy. All of these except UGTL and SP were to be included on an aborted project entitled 'Camille'.
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Reply #8 posted 09/21/02 4:04am

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Nikkie said:

When his voice is pitched higher, mostly songs recorded in 1986/87
examples: Shockadelica, Feel u up, dream factory, crystal ball, IF i was.., Scarlet Pussy, Rockhard in a funky place,



You mean @ the end of If I Was Your Girlfriend? Does that qualify the whole song as a Camille song? Huh, I NEVER knew that. Damn, I learned sumfin' today! Thanks Nikkie... biggrin

How do you guys know all this stuff? Do they break this down in those Per Nilson books or something?? LOL!
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Reply #9 posted 09/21/02 4:07am

Natasha

Did Camille record the Black album then? Since Prince did Lovesexy wouldn't you say his alter ego Camille recorded the Black album. Being a Gemini and having the good twin which is light and the bad or evil side dark? Also,it seems prince's Camille is the Sex Pig so to speak. He get's this little Devilish grin you know when he's Camille. Oh my God. Why do I have to Scream again? AHHH!!! It's so wonderful just thinking about the fruits of Camille's pleasure. Surely as Ingrid Chavez once said Heaven must be Near.
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Reply #10 posted 09/21/02 4:08am

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CalhounSq said:

Nikkie said:

When his voice is pitched higher, mostly songs recorded in 1986/87
examples: Shockadelica, Feel u up, dream factory, crystal ball, IF i was.., Scarlet Pussy, Rockhard in a funky place,



You mean @ the end of If I Was Your Girlfriend? Does that qualify the whole song as a Camille song? Huh, I NEVER knew that. Damn, I learned sumfin' today! Thanks Nikkie... biggrin

How do you guys know all this stuff? Do they break this down in those Per Nilson books or something?? LOL!


It's during the whole song, his voice is pitched higher! Strange Relationship as well (I think... let's check... yes it is!)
And Housequake as well!
Check the Lyric sheets 4 Sign of the Times, it's written there: 'lead vocal by Camille'
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Reply #11 posted 09/21/02 4:10am

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Natasha said:

Did Camille record the Black album then? Since Prince did Lovesexy wouldn't you say his alter ego Camille recorded the Black album. Being a Gemini and having the good twin which is light and the bad or evil side dark? Also,it seems prince's Camille is the Sex Pig so to speak. He get's this little Devilish grin you know when he's Camille. Oh my God. Why do I have to Scream again? AHHH!!! It's so wonderful just thinking about the fruits of Camille's pleasure. Surely as Ingrid Chavez once said Heaven must be Near.


I think u really should listen to the pitch of his voice. On the Black Album, only Rockhard... is a Camille Song, it was originally intended 4 the Camille album If I remember correctly..
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Reply #12 posted 09/21/02 4:10am

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No, Camille did not record The Black Album. Although he did give Prince one of his songs to use. wink The Lovesexy tourbook explains the story in a little more detail. That makes it seem as though Camille is more than just a batch of songs and more of a mindset.
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Reply #13 posted 09/21/02 4:11am

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TRON said:

No, Camille did not record The Black Album. Although he did give Prince one of his songs to use. wink The Lovesexy tourbook explains the story in a little more detail. That makes it seem as though Camille is more than just a batch of songs and more of a mindset.


That's interesting! I don't own the tourbook, what does it say?
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Reply #14 posted 09/21/02 4:12am

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I guess my favorite Camille cuts would be:

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Rebirth of the Flesh

Feel U Up


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TRON said:

The Lovesexy tourbook explains the story in a little more detail. That makes it seem as though Camille is more than just a batch of songs and more of a mindset.


digging out my Lovesexy tourbook
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Reply #15 posted 09/21/02 4:12am

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I forgot that one, Good Love! Is absolutely my favorite!!
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Reply #16 posted 09/21/02 4:14am

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TRON said:

No, Camille did not record The Black Album. Although he did give Prince one of his songs to use. wink The Lovesexy tourbook explains the story in a little more detail. That makes it seem as though Camille is more than just a batch of songs and more of a mindset.


I'm listening 2 the Black Album.. Le Grind definately sounds like a Camille song! Apart from the lead vocal.. it's in trademark Camille style!
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Reply #17 posted 09/21/02 4:14am

Thecherryloon

just pointing out that Camille is supposedly Female (hence 'that girl' in the topic title).kind of adds a strange twist to certain songs if you think about it!
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Reply #18 posted 09/21/02 4:15am

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'Baby Knows' features a Camille-style voice as well.
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Reply #19 posted 09/21/02 4:20am

TRON

Camille is not a female. He's a young boy. See my post above. It clearly states which songs are credited to Camille and which ones are not. I'll get back to y'all on the Lovesexy story.
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Reply #20 posted 09/21/02 4:21am

Natasha

Are you seriously implying Camille is Prince's girl side and she's a Lesbian? What about Camille saying I'm just Rockhard in a funky place or I just hate to see an erection go to waste? A girl can't have a penis. So is he a Transvestite? What are you implying with the Camille Fantasy? Prince being somebody's Girlfriend? Is this person a female or is this person a guy? What are you saying in your opinion what sex is Camille?
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Reply #21 posted 09/21/02 4:22am

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Natasha said:

Are you seriously implying Camille is Prince's girl side and she's a Lesbian? What about Camille saying I'm just Rockhard in a funky place or I just hate to see an erection go to waste? A girl can't have a penis. So is he a Transvestite? What are you implying with the Camille Fantasy? Prince being somebody's Girlfriend? Is this person a female or is this person a guy? What are you saying in your opinion what sex is Camille?


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Reply #22 posted 09/21/02 4:24am

Natasha

A smile is not an answer to my question Calhoun.
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Reply #23 posted 09/21/02 4:27am

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Isn't Last Heart a Camille song as well?
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Reply #24 posted 09/21/02 4:28am

TRON

If you read what I posted you wouldn't have these questions Natasha. deal
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Reply #25 posted 09/21/02 4:31am

Thecherryloon

shockadelica - "and the reason is Camille, shockadelica, the girl must be a witch, she got your..."

definately supposed to be a girl."i just hate to see an erection go to waste" could obviously be camille speaking to a man.

Very confusing.
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Reply #26 posted 09/21/02 4:35am

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Could the early "We Can Funk" version (not the George Clinton song on GB) B a Camille song, too? Besides the piched voice the instrumentation is quite similar to "If I Was Your Girlfriend" . . .
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Reply #27 posted 09/21/02 4:39am

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I really don't think Camille is a girl. Here's why.

If I was your girlfriend is - I think - a man singing to a girl how much he would like get as close to her as a girlfriend could: because as a boyfriend he could not ever get this close to her- on a level of understanding eachother..
A girl would not sing If I was your girlfriend, because she would already be a girl... right?

I think Prince would love to experience what it feels like 2 be a girl- and how he would relate 2 other girls, how he could get to know things about them he would never know being a man... but still he AND Camille are men.

I don't see the point 4 Prince in creating a lesbian female character.. (this would have 2 b the case if Camille were a girl- listening 2 lyrics in Fill me up, or Rockhard..)
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Reply #28 posted 09/21/02 4:39am

Natasha

No Camille is Definitely a guy Prince is saying in Rockhard he's in whore house and he's got an erection and he hates to see an erection go to waste that's his exact lyrics. He's definitely a guy in this song and personally I think Camille is a guy cause Prince is saying to his girlfriend if he was a girl she would be closer to him she would tell him things she would do things with him. No Camille is a Man and just Prince using a higher pitched voice. But granted Prince's Camille's lyrics are extremely sexual.
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Reply #29 posted 09/21/02 4:42am

Natasha

Natasha said:

No Camille is Definitely a guy Prince is saying in Rockhard he's in whore house and he's got an erection and he hates to see an erection go to waste that's his exact lyrics. He's definitely a guy in this song and personally I think Camille is a guy cause Prince is saying to his girlfriend if he was a girl she would be closer to him she would tell him things she would do things with him. No Camille is a Man and just Prince using a higher pitched voice. But granted Prince's Camille's lyrics are extremely sexual.
And fill you up well a girl can't fill another girl up. So no Prince and Camille are definitely Male. Straight Males.
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