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Thread started 05/15/03 7:19am

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WERE THERE DINOSAURS ON NOAH'S ARK?

u think I've got the wrong post, don't u?

well, try taking a look at a fairly new post (by "ecles3")on the 'knowledge' forum over at the club. the title is a direct quote - I think u can guess our guy thinks the answer is 'yes'.

it's a really funny post - it's so long and detailed about the different types of dinosaurs, and then includes lines like:

"Large or small, dinosaurs were all created by God. It is exciting to learn about these creatures. The more we learn, the more we are amazed at the power of our Creator!"

check it out!! then refer the guy to his nearest mental facility.
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Reply #1 posted 05/15/03 8:11am

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I like his/her "pictorial" versions of Prince songs too.

Classic! wink
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Reply #2 posted 05/15/03 8:32am

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Sinaplenty, it's actually possible that dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark.

I've seen a few Web sites that offer fairly strong arguments to that effect. A Google search will turn up their URLs, I'm sure.
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Reply #3 posted 05/15/03 9:32am

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This is actually a great question! Could it be that the flood is what really killed the dinosaurs and that the dinosaurs Noah did take on the ark didn't survive because Noah didn't have enough food for them?

Never thought of this before...
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Reply #4 posted 05/15/03 9:47am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This is actually a great question! Could it be that the flood is what really killed the dinosaurs and that the dinosaurs Noah did take on the ark didn't survive because Noah didn't have enough food for them?

Never thought of this before...

It could be.

Christian author Josh McDowell has tackled this topic in some of his writings. He takes a very logical approach to discussing biblical issues, great for people who need more than a "just have faith" blanket response to serious questions.
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Reply #5 posted 05/15/03 9:57am

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Something to think about:

#1 The events depicted in Noah's Ark actually occurred sometime in man's antiquity, but due to civilization occasionally "forgetting," we don't know the HOW it occurred.

#2 GENETICS offer us a clue as to the HOW IT WORKED (putting all of creation on a single ship). Each species was preserved via their respective DNA.
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Reply #6 posted 05/15/03 10:28am

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Fact: given enough preasure, bones can fossilize in a matter of a decade. (if the earth was covered by water, that would be a lot of preasure,weight)

Fact: The earth would have a much friendlier climate if it's axis were strait up and down. making even our polar areas tropical. (reptiles don't last long in the cold)

Fact: Genisis talkes about the waters being released from the "deep" as well as from the sky.

Fact: There is a canyon that spans the entire surface of the globe that looks like a big zipper. It would take a big internal explosion to cause that. and could very well change the axis rotation of the earth.

(Question)? Would such a climate change hurt the survival of certain species?

The argument I see is that "If god told noah to bring aboard every living creature, you could still fit all the dinasours, according to the size description of the ark provided they may have been young, or still in eggs. Also, the argument continues that such a global climate change would make it very hard for reptiles to survive.
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Reply #7 posted 05/15/03 10:32am

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So I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is just enough argument either way you look at the age of dinasaurs as well as earth itself.
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Reply #8 posted 05/15/03 10:39am

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WTF? Does anybody actually REALLY believe stories like Noah and his building a ship to carry a pair of every life form on earth?
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Reply #9 posted 05/15/03 10:53am

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Essence said:

WTF? Does anybody actually REALLY believe stories like Noah and his building a ship to carry a pair of every life form on earth?

Yes
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Reply #10 posted 05/15/03 11:46am

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Essence said:

WTF? Does anybody actually REALLY believe stories like Noah and his building a ship to carry a pair of every life form on earth?


Anything is possible right?

Putting your pecker in a woman's "whoo whoo" and creating a life sounds pretty ridiculous too. But hey! it's true!
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Reply #11 posted 05/15/03 1:54pm

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Two of every kind. And yes, I believe.
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Reply #12 posted 05/15/03 3:21pm

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I find it sad you can't take such stories as parables to live right by but instead have to believe the ludicrous.

A sperm cell meets egg cell and mutates during reproduction now explain the Noah fairytale? biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 05/16/03 12:37am

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Didn't dinosaurs go extinct millions of years before man
emerged onto the surface of the earth??

So how could there be dinosaurs in Noah's ark?
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Reply #14 posted 05/16/03 2:21am

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IstenSzek said:

Didn't dinosaurs go extinct millions of years before man
emerged onto the surface of the earth??

So how could there be dinosaurs in Noah's ark?


FINALLY! Respectively:

yes

they couldn't (not least because there was no ark!)
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Reply #15 posted 05/16/03 2:24am

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yamomma said:

The argument I see is that "If god told noah to bring aboard every living creature, you could still fit all the dinasours, according to the size description of the ark provided they may have been young, or still in eggs. Also, the argument continues that such a global climate change would make it very hard for reptiles to survive.


starr said:

Two of every kind. And yes, I believe.


one question: how do you sex an egg?
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Reply #16 posted 05/16/03 2:42am

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yamomma said:

Fact: The earth would have a much friendlier climate if it's axis were strait up and down. making even our polar areas tropical. (reptiles don't last long in the cold)


dinosaurs were warm blooded - the smaller ones generated their own heat like mammals and birds.
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Reply #17 posted 05/16/03 2:49am

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a few other pointsa off the top of my head:

1300 different types of dinosaur have been found at the moment - as the fossil record isn't complete, this is a small percentage of the total.

a general point about bringing preiously foreign animals together (aside from the fact they couldn't all fit on the (non-existent) ark) - there will be mass deaths. it happens whenever humans invade foreign lands and whenever we introduce new species - foreign animals have no resistance to foreign diseases.
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Reply #18 posted 05/16/03 6:27am

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IstenSzek said:

Didn't dinosaurs go extinct millions of years before man
emerged onto the surface of the earth??

So how could there be dinosaurs in Noah's ark?



given enough preasure, bones can fossilize in a matter of a decade, not millions of years. (if the earth was covered by water, that would be a lot of preasure,weight)
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sinaplenty said:

a few other pointsa off the top of my head:

1300 different types of dinosaur have been found at the moment - as the fossil record isn't complete, this is a small percentage of the total.

a general point about bringing preiously foreign animals together (aside from the fact they couldn't all fit on the (non-existent) ark) - there will be mass deaths. it happens whenever humans invade foreign lands and whenever we introduce new species - foreign animals have no resistance to foreign diseases.


It's speculated that the earth was quite different back then, and no or less diseases.


I'm only stating that it can be argued to either side.

The fact is, we can't travel back in time, and there are no living eye witnesses to what really happened.

I think it's fasinating that it's possible. yes.
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Essence said:

I find it sad you can't take such stories as parables to live right by but instead have to believe the ludicrous.

A sperm cell meets egg cell and mutates during reproduction now explain the Noah fairytale? biggrin


equally sad to dissmiss the posibility.

The bible outlines the story of Noah, and I don't need to re-print it. All I'm saying is that given the evidence, it's quite possible that the bible story is true word for word given that a "devine being" was in control of things.
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Reply #21 posted 05/16/03 6:39am

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Have fun with the subject and the posibility.

And don't settle for anyone telling you their view is "absolute truth".

I'm not telling you that. Let people make up your own mind.

This subject was intended to be "fun".
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Reply #23 posted 05/16/03 6:56am

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The Original .org thread.

Fun read!

http://www.prince.org/msg...&tid=31539
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Reply #24 posted 05/16/03 7:03am

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sinaplenty said:

yamomma said:

The argument I see is that "If god told noah to bring aboard every living creature, you could still fit all the dinasours, according to the size description of the ark provided they may have been young, or still in eggs. Also, the argument continues that such a global climate change would make it very hard for reptiles to survive.


starr said:

Two of every kind. And yes, I believe.


one question: how do you sex an egg?


You sex an egg by temperature, right?
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Reply #25 posted 05/16/03 7:04am

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Didn't dinosaurs go extinct millions of years before man
emerged onto the surface of the earth??

So how could there be dinosaurs in Noah's ark?


You've now crossed the line of reality where you understand that human beings evolved millions of years after dinosaurs walked the world. Hence the conflict with religious "Creationism" which will tell you Adam & Eve were first humans ever on earth right after "he" created the planet. Both of whom were made directly in his image of course. No awkward questioning needed regarding human divinity when you don't face up to the fact you share common ancestors with apes...
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Reply #26 posted 05/16/03 7:21am

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dinosaurse were extinct long before people were around. Why would someone even want to show they were on the ark (if there ever was an ark)? It it to try to claim the world/universe is only 6000 years old? You don't have to look at dinosaurs to disprove that, you only have to look at the fact that we can see light from stars that are much further than that away - we can see light from objects that are so far away that it takes the light 10 billion years to reach earth. If it takes 10 billion years for the light to reach earth, how could we possibly see it if the universe is only supposed to be 6000 years old?
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alandail said:

dinosaurse were extinct long before people were around. Why would someone even want to show they were on the ark (if there ever was an ark)? It it to try to claim the world/universe is only 6000 years old? You don't have to look at dinosaurs to disprove that, you only have to look at the fact that we can see light from stars that are much further than that away - we can see light from objects that are so far away that it takes the light 10 billion years to reach earth. If it takes 10 billion years for the light to reach earth, how could we possibly see it if the universe is only supposed to be 6000 years old?



I don't know.
the space that earth ocupies may have been here before that?
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Reply #28 posted 05/16/03 9:16am

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Anything is possible right?

Putting your pecker in a woman's "whoo whoo" and creating a life sounds pretty ridiculous too. But hey! it's true!


Feels pretty good too:)
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Reply #29 posted 05/16/03 10:04am

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yamomma said:

alandail said:

dinosaurse were extinct long before people were around. Why would someone even want to show they were on the ark (if there ever was an ark)? It it to try to claim the world/universe is only 6000 years old? You don't have to look at dinosaurs to disprove that, you only have to look at the fact that we can see light from stars that are much further than that away - we can see light from objects that are so far away that it takes the light 10 billion years to reach earth. If it takes 10 billion years for the light to reach earth, how could we possibly see it if the universe is only supposed to be 6000 years old?



I don't know.
the space that earth ocupies may have been here before that?


MAYBE... there's a tooth fairy, easter bunny and Santa really does come down the chimney of all the world's kiddies.
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