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Thread started 09/07/16 11:59am

mushmackalenta

Camille Vinyl album up for auction

Karen Krattinger is selling a copy of the Camille album!!!!!.


It on the auction site, hidden behind other albums, plain sleeve but you can see the label, Strange Relationship, Feel Up.

bids start at £1000.
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Reply #1 posted 09/07/16 12:05pm

feeluupp

So it really was pressed after all...

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Reply #2 posted 09/07/16 12:05pm

Rev

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I would imagine Bremer Trust would have a problem with this!

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Reply #3 posted 09/07/16 12:23pm

TrivialPursuit

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Rev said:

I would imagine Bremer Trust would have a problem with this!


Imagine again. It's hers to do what she wants, just as any other fans has trinkets, or mementos, etc. What about the letters, the handwritten notes, etc? Where's the line of those things? Promo copies of stuff are out there all the time. Doesn't make them illegal. The Black Album has a lot of different pressings. Peach, White, Gray colors. If someone sold those on Discogs (wait - they are), who can stop that? It's the seller's property.

If Karen wants to sell it, she can. I mean - I wouldn't. That's some rare ass shit, but maybe she's not interested in collecting stuff anymore like others still do.

PS A lot of things are pressed. They're test pressed whether for sound quality, track list flow, or anything. Even Jam & Lewis were test-pressing 45s of Janet's "No Sleeep" a couple of years ago, just to test the EQ and mastering on a turntable (a new Audio-Technica they had just received, actually).

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #4 posted 09/07/16 12:32pm

mushmackalenta

I wouldn't be as surprised to see this if it were just an acetate but has proper Paisley Park labels. Also the other items in the lot are just unplaced promo copies of limited interest to most. The Camille album is hidden behind Parade and ATWIAD and mentioned at the end. You would think they would make this the main selling point.

I'm in discussion with my wife about placing a bid, she isn't keen at all on me spending our money on this.
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Reply #5 posted 09/07/16 12:46pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Rev said:

I would imagine Bremer Trust would have a problem with this!




PS A lot of things are pressed. They're test pressed whether for sound quality, track list flow, or anything.

Indeed, but test pressings tend to have white labels, this appears to have proper Paisley labels.

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Reply #6 posted 09/07/16 1:06pm

TrivialPursuit

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TheDigitalGardener said:

TrivialPursuit said:




PS A lot of things are pressed. They're test pressed whether for sound quality, track list flow, or anything.

Indeed, but test pressings tend to have white labels, this appears to have proper Paisley labels.


Agreed. My point being that either way - it's a treasure to own.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #7 posted 09/07/16 1:33pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Indeed, but test pressings tend to have white labels, this appears to have proper Paisley labels.


Agreed. My point being that either way - it's a treasure to own.

Very much so. wink

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Reply #8 posted 09/07/16 1:57pm

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That is AWESOME! Would love to have that in my Christmas stocking...

"I like to watch."
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Reply #9 posted 09/07/16 2:03pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



Rev said:



I would imagine Bremer Trust would have a problem with this!




Imagine again. It's hers to do what she wants, just as any other fans has trinkets, or mementos, etc. What about the letters, the handwritten notes, etc? Where's the line of those things? Promo copies of stuff are out there all the time. Doesn't make them illegal. The Black Album has a lot of different pressings. Peach, White, Gray colors. If someone sold those on Discogs (wait - they are), who can stop that? It's the seller's property.

If Karen wants to sell it, she can. I mean - I wouldn't. That's some rare ass shit, but maybe she's not interested in collecting stuff anymore like others still do.

PS A lot of things are pressed. They're test pressed whether for sound quality, track list flow, or anything. Even Jam & Lewis were test-pressing 45s of Janet's "No Sleeep" a couple of years ago, just to test the EQ and mastering on a turntable (a new Audio-Technica they had just received, actually).


--- Selling promotional copies is illegal and I question if he gave this or if she stole it. You have people in this board that bitch at the family for monerize the estate but have no problem with ex-employees cashing in on death.
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Reply #10 posted 09/07/16 2:10pm

sulls

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Uses the 'SOTT' font?

"I like to watch."
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Reply #11 posted 09/07/16 2:17pm

erik319

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laurarichardson ranted:


--- Selling promotional copies is illegal


Nope. Wrong.


http://www.npr.org/sectio...-yes-it-is

I'm pretty sure defamation of character is illegal though, something you get close to with the part of your post that I snipped.
blah blah blah
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Reply #12 posted 09/07/16 4:42pm

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erik319 said:

laurarichardson ranted:
--- Selling promotional copies is illegal
Nope. Wrong. http://www.npr.org/sectio...-yes-it-is I'm pretty sure defamation of character is illegal though, something you get close to with the part of your post that I snipped.

Well back when I worked in a record store it was illegal. I did not know about this case. I can tell you one think selling that copy of the Camille record is illegal as well as the acetate. Camille was never releashed to the public and if what she has is not a promotional copy she is doing something illegal. I used the word if so I doubt I am going to be sued so I am not worried.

I am amazed at the concern everyone has that this woman be able to sell these items. Some of you act as if you are getting a cut of the profits.

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Reply #13 posted 09/07/16 6:54pm

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oh boy... I hope this gets out. Just to hear if there are any differences in mixes and to also have a new official version of "Rebirth of the Flesh"

[Edited 9/7/16 23:00pm]

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Reply #14 posted 09/07/16 7:02pm

imprimis

ufoclub said:

oh boy... I hope this gets out. Just to heer if there are any differences in mixes and to also have a new official version of "Rebirth of the Flesh"

I'm wondering whether 'Rockhard in a Funky Place' has a different ending to the version that appears on TBA, and perhaps 'Strange Relationship' (Eric Leeds horns?).

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Reply #15 posted 09/07/16 7:17pm

friend2001

I'm surprised no one is talking about the other items up for grabs.

http://www.rrauction.com/browse_gallery.cfm?category=372

the grocery list and the 'to-do' lists crack me up. Cat getting some good gifts for her birthday including lingerie but Boni gets a check for 4500?

And the voodoo doll of Prince was made for her by the wardrobe staff when she left the organization? was she fired? does anyone know?

i would love the signed 8 x 10. but already over $2000 with 22% added for auction house.

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Reply #16 posted 09/07/16 7:19pm

callimnate

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IMO this is the rarest of the rarest!!! Bigger than the Black Album!!!

Just WOW!

eek

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Reply #17 posted 09/07/16 7:50pm

Connected

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TrivialPursuit said:

Rev said:

I would imagine Bremer Trust would have a problem with this!


Imagine again. It's hers to do what she wants, just as any other fans has trinkets, or mementos, etc. What about the letters, the handwritten notes, etc? Where's the line of those things? Promo copies of stuff are out there all the time. Doesn't make them illegal. The Black Album has a lot of different pressings. Peach, White, Gray colors. If someone sold those on Discogs (wait - they are), who can stop that? It's the seller's property.

If Karen wants to sell it, she can. I mean - I wouldn't. That's some rare ass shit, but maybe she's not interested in collecting stuff anymore like others still do.

PS A lot of things are pressed. They're test pressed whether for sound quality, track list flow, or anything. Even Jam & Lewis were test-pressing 45s of Janet's "No Sleeep" a couple of years ago, just to test the EQ and mastering on a turntable (a new Audio-Technica they had just received, actually).


And there it is...

Despite what others may feel...

I'm sure she has other memories of her Boss that will give her comfort

~Shakalaka!~..... ~Mayday!~
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Reply #18 posted 09/07/16 8:06pm

EddieC

friend2001 said:

I'm surprised no one is talking about the other items up for grabs.

http://www.rrauction.com/browse_gallery.cfm?category=372

the grocery list and the 'to-do' lists crack me up. Cat getting some good gifts for her birthday including lingerie but Boni gets a check for 4500?

And the voodoo doll of Prince was made for her by the wardrobe staff when she left the organization? was she fired? does anyone know?

i would love the signed 8 x 10. but already over $2000 with 22% added for auction house.

There is another thread titled "Prince Memo To The Revolution 1986 From the Prince Collection of Karen Krattinger." Some of the other stuff is mentioned there.

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Reply #19 posted 09/07/16 8:50pm

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mushmackalenta said:

Karen Krattinger is selling a copy of the Camille album!!!!!. It on the auction site, hidden behind other albums, plain sleeve but you can see the label, Strange Relationship, Feel Up. bids start at £1000.

Well I just hope they take pictures and upload mp3 for us. Look like an official Paisley Print

Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #20 posted 09/08/16 12:36am

greyhoodiegirl

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I had dreams about this auction last night after reading this thread.
Literally makes my guts squirm knowing that there is a pressing of this album out there...
eek
yes wildsign
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Reply #21 posted 09/08/16 1:06am

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Why the hell was this thread moved to The Marketplace forum???

Admin, have NO idea how big a deal this Camille promo actually is!

This is bigger than the Black Album when it comes to releases.
It's a great conversation starter, and a very educational lesson for those that aren't collectors.

And in these times of no NEW news aswell!! rolleyes

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Reply #22 posted 09/08/16 1:54am

BoraBora

ufoclub said:

oh boy... I hope this gets out. Just to hear if there are any differences in mixes and to also have a new official version of "Rebirth of the Flesh"

[Edited 9/7/16 23:00pm]



As far as we know, the Camille tracks are the same as the released ones and "Rebirth Of The Flesh" is already available in perfect quality from many years.

I don't think we can hope for something different, musically talking.

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Reply #23 posted 09/08/16 5:27am

ElGorillos

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callimnate said:

Why the hell was this thread moved to The Marketplace forum???

Admin, have NO idea how big a deal this Camille promo actually is!

This is bigger than the Black Album when it comes to releases.
It's a great conversation starter, and a very educational lesson for those that aren't collectors.

And in these times of no NEW news aswell!! rolleyes


+1
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Reply #24 posted 09/08/16 8:00am

mushmackalenta

Housequake have added two pictures of the labels to their Facebook page.

The titles appear to be hand written onto label in what could be Prince's handwriting.

Agree this shouldn't have been moved.

Please move it back.
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Reply #25 posted 09/08/16 8:19am

love2thenines2
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Official PICTUREs for this auction of this Prince Saint GRAAL (Thanx 2 HOUSEQUAKE for this)


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Reply #26 posted 09/08/16 11:16am

paisleypark4

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ElGorillos said:

callimnate said:

Why the hell was this thread moved to The Marketplace forum???

Admin, have NO idea how big a deal this Camille promo actually is!

This is bigger than the Black Album when it comes to releases.
It's a great conversation starter, and a very educational lesson for those that aren't collectors.

And in these times of no NEW news aswell!! rolleyes


+1
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EG


Yeah I agree
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #27 posted 09/08/16 5:55pm

ufoclub

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Housequake is running on Facebook!

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Reply #28 posted 09/08/16 7:53pm

callimnate

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Admin
Its an absolute disgrace and very ignorant of you to move this thread to the Marketplace Forum.

This is the biggest thing thats happened in decades (avoiding the obvious)!

We're talking about an unreleased album thats come to life!!! Not a farken record thats up for sale on eBay ffs! mad

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Reply #29 posted 09/09/16 4:45am

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Please can we move this back to the Prince Music forum? Otherwise I'm starting a new post.

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