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All Time Musical Icons

VH1 created a list of the top 200 icons of all time. Never mind the fact it sucked, (Oprah was #1 and JLo ranked higher than Ali if that tells you anything) I was trying to think of who would be on the list if it was just the top 10 and limited to the music world. I'll list mine in a sec but first make sure you understand the guidelines. These aren't your favorite musicians. These are icons in the sense they transcended their music and made an impact on pop culture as a whole. That said mine are as follows:

1. Elvis
2. The Beatles
3. Michael Jackson
4. David Bowe
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Madonna
7. Prince
8. Run-DMC
9. Jimi Hendrix
10. Ozzy Osbourne
[This message was edited Fri Jul 25 8:36:11 PDT 2003 by intha916]
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Reply #1 posted 07/25/03 11:41am

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intha916 said:

VH1 created a list of the top 200 icons of all time. Never mind the fact it sucked, (Oprah was #1 and JLo ranked higher than Ali if that tells you anything) I was trying to think of who would be on the list if it was just the top 10 and limited to the music world. I'll list mine in a sec but first make sure you understand the guidelines. These aren't your favorite musicians. These are icons in the sense they transcended their music and made an impact on pop culture as a whole. That said mine are as follows:

1. Elvis
2. The Beatles
3. Michael Jackson
4. David Bowie
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Madonna
7. Prince
8. Run-DMC
9. Jimi Hendrix
10. Ozzy Osbourne
[This message was edited Fri Jul 25 8:36:11 PDT 2003 by intha916]


Good start, now add, in no particular order;

Aretha Frankin
Stevie Wonder
Kiss
Parliment Funkadelic
Rolling Stones
Dolly Parton
Loretta Lynn
Nirvana
Diana Ross
Sex Pistols
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Reply #2 posted 07/25/03 11:57am

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ramones
al green
blondie
barry white
diana ross and the supremes
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Reply #3 posted 07/25/03 1:12pm

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jthad1129 said:

intha916 said:

VH1 created a list of the top 200 icons of all time. Never mind the fact it sucked, (Oprah was #1 and JLo ranked higher than Ali if that tells you anything) I was trying to think of who would be on the list if it was just the top 10 and limited to the music world. I'll list mine in a sec but first make sure you understand the guidelines. These aren't your favorite musicians. These are icons in the sense they transcended their music and made an impact on pop culture as a whole. That said mine are as follows:

1. Elvis
2. The Beatles
3. Michael Jackson
4. David Bowie
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Madonna
7. Prince
8. Run-DMC
9. Jimi Hendrix
10. Ozzy Osbourne
[This message was edited Fri Jul 25 8:36:11 PDT 2003 by intha916]


Good start, now add, in no particular order;

Aretha Frankin
Stevie Wonder
Kiss
Parliment Funkadelic
Rolling Stones
Dolly Parton
Loretta Lynn
Nirvana
Diana Ross
Sex Pistols


Most I agree with but please explain Loretta Lynn and Nirvana.
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Reply #4 posted 07/25/03 1:13pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

ramones
al green
blondie
barry white
diana ross and the supremes



Al Green maybe (and just maybe) but the Ramones no way. We're talking Icons here.
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Reply #5 posted 07/25/03 1:17pm

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10 just isn't enough.

Where's The Rolling Stones, U2, Led Zeppelin, Kate Bush, the Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder...
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Reply #6 posted 07/25/03 1:18pm

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Oops! I just spotted Stevie Wonder. DOH!
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Reply #7 posted 07/25/03 1:18pm

Cloudbuster

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And The Rolling Stones. I'll go away.
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Reply #8 posted 07/25/03 1:20pm

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Cloudbuster said:

10 just isn't enough.

Where's The Rolling Stones, U2, Led Zeppelin, Kate Bush, the Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder...


I agree 10 isn't enough but I wanted to use that as a starting point.
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Reply #9 posted 07/25/03 1:24pm

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intha916 said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

ramones
al green
blondie
barry white
diana ross and the supremes



Al Green maybe (and just maybe) but the Ramones no way. We're talking Icons here.

erm, they are, believe it or no...
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Reply #10 posted 07/25/03 1:26pm

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Cloudbuster said:

10 just isn't enough.

Where's The Rolling Stones, U2, Led Zeppelin, Kate Bush, the Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder...


Kate Bush is not an Icon.
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Reply #11 posted 07/25/03 1:30pm

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intha916 said:

Cloudbuster said:

10 just isn't enough.

Where's The Rolling Stones, U2, Led Zeppelin, Kate Bush, the Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder...


Kate Bush is not an Icon.


Tell that to the many musicians & fans that consider her the greatest british female music artist.
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Reply #12 posted 07/25/03 1:33pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

intha916 said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

ramones
al green
blondie
barry white
diana ross and the supremes



Al Green maybe (and just maybe) but the Ramones no way. We're talking Icons here.

erm, they are, believe it or no...



We are losing site of what an icon is. It's not just enough to make some cool songs. Icons become bigger than the music itself. People that aren't even fans of the music know something about an icons life. Trust me, the Ramones are not icons.
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Reply #13 posted 07/25/03 1:35pm

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Cloudbuster said:

intha916 said:

Cloudbuster said:

10 just isn't enough.

Where's The Rolling Stones, U2, Led Zeppelin, Kate Bush, the Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder...


Kate Bush is not an Icon.


Tell that to the many musicians & fans that consider her the greatest british female music artist.


Again, she might be a great singer and all but she doesn't make icon status. I couldn't pick her out of a crowd. at least 80-90% of people would know an icon at first sight.
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Reply #14 posted 07/25/03 1:38pm

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intha916 said:

Cloudbuster said:

intha916 said:

Cloudbuster said:

10 just isn't enough.

Where's The Rolling Stones, U2, Led Zeppelin, Kate Bush, the Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder...


Kate Bush is not an Icon.


Tell that to the many musicians & fans that consider her the greatest british female music artist.


Again, she might be a great singer and all but she doesn't make icon status. I couldn't pick her out of a crowd. at least 80-90% of people would know an icon at first sight.


If you'd have seen the reaction she got at the Q awards late 2001 when she gave her first public appearance in eight years, I bet you would reconsider. You can be an icon within the industry as well as outside of it.
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You are trying to redefine what an icon is. There are many performers who have large loyal followings who aren't icons. An icon becomes larger than life. There are a lot of performers I love too but aren't going to call them icons if they aren't. I knew this would happen. People always want to put their personal taste into a subject like this. This isn't about musical tastes or who we think is cool. This is about icons or if you will mega stars that transcends music. Can you honestly say Kate Bush transcends her music?
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Reply #16 posted 07/25/03 1:53pm

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intha916 said:

You are trying to redefine what an icon is. There are many performers who have large loyal followings who aren't icons. An icon becomes larger than life. There are a lot of performers I love too but aren't going to call them icons if they aren't. I knew this would happen. People always want to put their personal taste into a subject like this. This isn't about musical tastes or who we think is cool. This is about icons or if you will mega stars that transcends music. Can you honestly say Kate Bush transcends her music?


Yes. She's just very quiet about it. If people were asked who were the truly great british female music artists/singers they would think of Kate Bush, Dusty Springfield and...er, well, you tell me.
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Reply #17 posted 07/25/03 2:04pm

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Point is she has not become part of pop culter. I just think we are looking at this with a different idea of what an icon is. It's cool though. Have a good weekend.
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Reply #18 posted 07/25/03 2:12pm

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intha916 said:

Point is she has not become part of pop culture.



omg There's more to music than America, you know. wink
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Reply #19 posted 07/25/03 2:48pm

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Donna Summer
The Cure (hell, maybe just Robert Smith)

I'm sure there are more out there
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Cloudbuster said:

intha916 said:

Point is she has not become part of pop culture.



omg There's more to music than America, you know. wink


Actually thats a good point. Although this is the place where most come to make it big, I'm sure there are a lot of "icons" in the asian world we never heard of.
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Reply #21 posted 07/26/03 8:48am

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Funny how peeps freak out when variations of these threads come up. It's meant for as many peeps to participate as possible, not just one person list it all. It's cool to dissect and debate whether somebody is worth of being on a list, but sometimes it goes on a deep end.
Going back to the topic at hand:

James Brown
The Doors...more likely Jim Morrison
Janis Joplin
U2
Aerosmith
Fleetwood Mac...with an edge to Stevie Nicks
Buddy Holly
Tina Turner
Marvin Gaye
The Beach Boys

hopefully I didn't include any repeats. I was rushing.
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Reply #22 posted 07/26/03 9:00am

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  • Sly Stone
  • Bob Marley
  • Miles Davis
  • Lou Reed
  • David Bowie
  • Paul Simon
  • Smokey Robinson
  • Kurt Cobain
  • Joni Mitchell

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Reply #23 posted 07/26/03 9:10am

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intha916 said:

jthad1129 said:

intha916 said:

VH1 created a list of the top 200 icons of all time. Never mind the fact it sucked, (Oprah was #1 and JLo ranked higher than Ali if that tells you anything) I was trying to think of who would be on the list if it was just the top 10 and limited to the music world. I'll list mine in a sec but first make sure you understand the guidelines. These aren't your favorite musicians. These are icons in the sense they transcended their music and made an impact on pop culture as a whole. That said mine are as follows:

1. Elvis
2. The Beatles
3. Michael Jackson
4. David Bowie
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Madonna
7. Prince
8. Run-DMC
9. Jimi Hendrix
10. Ozzy Osbourne
[This message was edited Fri Jul 25 8:36:11 PDT 2003 by intha916]


Good start, now add, in no particular order;

Aretha Frankin
Stevie Wonder
Kiss
Parliment Funkadelic
Rolling Stones
Dolly Parton
Loretta Lynn
Nirvana
Diana Ross
Sex Pistols


Most I agree with but please explain Loretta Lynn and Nirvana.


Mother of country music (the coal miner's daughter herself), she started the female country icon and paved the way. These people go far beyond just good songs or albums, they cross genre lines.

Nirvana - Well, not my fave at all but after seeing the display in the rock-n-roll hall of fame, they did usher in a new movement that changed music. Take them or leave them, i don't mind.

You can add Tina Turner if you take away the Nirvana boys
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Reply #24 posted 07/26/03 2:08pm

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I think Stevie Nicks, fleetwood mac, janis joplin, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, u2, Pat Benatar and Chicago should be up there as well. and as much as i hate them, the grateful dead.
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Reply #25 posted 07/28/03 2:07pm

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Sly Stone,Parliament FUnkadelic,R.Kelly,Rick James,Lionel Richie,Smokey RObinson,Berry Gordy,Quincy Jones,Earth,Wind&Fire,Sam Cooke,Jackie Wilson.Arguments IMHO can Be made for all.in my Lifetime no matter what you think or stand on Him as a Artist nobody defines Icon like Michael Jackson when it comes to the Music Industry.You name it&MJ did it¬ to Mention His Impact is still felt 20 years later.nobody else can make that claim like MJ IMHO at least in my lifetime.
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Reply #26 posted 07/28/03 2:12pm

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Erm, what about the jazzists? You know the fellas (and fillies)...
He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. - Albert Einstein
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Reply #27 posted 07/28/03 2:16pm

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funkyslsistah said:

Funny how peeps freak out when variations of these threads come up. It's meant for as many peeps to participate as possible, not just one person list it all. It's cool to dissect and debate whether somebody is worth of being on a list, but sometimes it goes on a deep end.
Going back to the topic at hand:

James Brown
The Doors...more likely Jim Morrison
Janis Joplin
U2
Aerosmith
Fleetwood Mac...with an edge to Stevie Nicks
Buddy Holly
Tina Turner
Marvin Gaye
The Beach Boys

hopefully I didn't include any repeats. I was rushing.


that's a pretty good list
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Reply #28 posted 07/28/03 2:23pm

Harlepolis

My list:

Duke Ellington
Billie Holiday
Sarah Vaughan
Betty Carter
Josphine Baker
Geroge Benson
Roy Ayres
Herbie Hencock
Jackie Wilson
Marvin Gaye
Count Basie
Charlie Parker
Prince
Tina Turner
Chaka Khan
Little Richard
Millie Jackson
Anita Baker
Patrice Rushen
Phyllis Hyman
Michael Jackson
Whitney Houston
Mary J Blige
Mariah Carey
Janet Jackson
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Reply #29 posted 07/28/03 4:37pm

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michael jackson
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