nayroo2002 said:

Yeah great performance all round. I've just seen his performance of No Angels on Kimmel and again, I was pleasantly surprised by his live performance. I think he's getting much better at performing live. Which will come in handy as he transitions to being a nostalgia act and will have to rely on touring to bring home the cash when record sales inevitably taper off.

WhisperingDandelions said:

ShellyMcG said:

WhisperingDandelions said: His Prince bashing is not relevant to me because regardless of what he said or did it doesn't change the sound of his music. Music which is, as JT has said multiple times, is very much inspired by the likes of Michael Jackson, Prince and other artists of that era. So it's only natural that his music would sound like theirs.

It couldn't be less relevant to the discussion what JT says his influences are.

This is like when you were arguing MJ and Prince should've "collaborated".

Put down the super stan playbook, JT and MJ are pop stars who show up to sessions and sing stuff over beats/tracks other people composed. They maybe tweak a lyric here and there, like a Beyonce or Mariah Carey, but that doesn't mean they have any connection to who the actual composers/songwriters of their material were influenced by or how they were inspired. They're not pulling up a piano and creating something out of thin air, gimme a brea.

The bulk of JT's material is composed by Timbaland or Pharrel Williams. Both have been explicit that they were huge Prince fans growing up and that Prince was a direct inspiration on their art.

Not that I'd even need quotes or citations. Literally the album I'm discussing--'Futuresex/Lovesounds'--it's clearly Prince inspired. MJ? Maybe less than 5%. The other 95% is Prince.

Literally there are quotes where Timbaland and Danja say they played non-stop Prince in the studio for JT to get inspired by,

And Pharrell did an entire podcast episode centered on how Prince inspired him specifically to become who he became. These are the opinions that are relevant, not the guy just who showed up and badly sang some melodies over a beat other people composed.

I don't know the extent of Justin's input so I won't comment on that but from what I gather MJ contributed quite a bit to some of his greatest hits. Also, I would say that Justified is largely MJ inspired whereas Future Sexy leans more towards Prince to my ears.

WhisperingDandelions said:

JT and MJ are pop stars who show up to sessions and sing stuff over beats/tracks other people composed. They maybe tweak a lyric here and there, like a Beyonce or Mariah Carey, but that doesn't mean they have any connection to who the actual composers/songwriters of their material were influenced by or how they were inspired. They're not pulling up a piano and creating something out of thin air, gimme a brea.

The bulk of JT's material is composed by Timbaland or Pharrel Williams. Both have been explicit that they were huge Prince fans growing up and that Prince was a direct inspiration on their art.

Not that I'd even need quotes or citations. Literally the album I'm discussing--'Futuresex/Lovesounds'--it's clearly Prince inspired. MJ? Maybe less than 5%. The other 95% is Prince.

Literally there are quotes where Timbaland and Danja say they played non-stop Prince in the studio for JT to get inspired by,

And Pharrell did an entire podcast episode centered on how Prince inspired him specifically to become who he became. These are the opinions that are relevant, not the guy just who showed up and badly sang some melodies over a beat other people composed.

MJ? Are you serious? There are tons of tracks of MJ doing vocal parts of instruments and what he wanted played and where.

MJ was 100% involved in every part of his music and even his producers admit this.

JT is a hack. He has some talent, but he's still a hack.

The reason he goes back to Timbaland is because he needs Timbaland. His tracks don't really pop without that extra sauce Timbo puts in his music. Timbo and Danja are his magic negroes. Yeah, I said it. Pharrell is a hack, too. Like JT, he has some talent, but he is also a hack. The veil has been over Pharrell for way too long.