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Thread started 11/07/17 11:39am

StrangeButTrue

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Rumor: Me'shell Ndegeocello covers Prince on new album

Her social media was teasing a November release for "Ventriloquism". Googling her name and the album title brings up performances billed as cover-heavy shows. This link suggests a few tunes including one of my fave P tunes.

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https://genius.com/albums...triloquism

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(Unreleased)
5
(Unreleased)
11
(Unreleased)

if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2
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Reply #1 posted 11/07/17 1:16pm

robertgeorge

Thank you for noting this.

I would pay for a Me'Shell Ndefeocello Prince covers album. That concert she did with tracks like Lady Cab Driver was fire.

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Reply #2 posted 11/07/17 8:01pm

TrivialPursuit

Hmmm, is that the little trinket on Janet's Control, "Funny How Time Flies"?

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Reply #3 posted 11/08/17 9:49am

namepeace

TrivialPursuit said:

Hmmm, is that the little trinket on Janet's Control, "Funny How Time Flies"?


I can only hope. Seeing that she covered 80's slow jam "Love You Down" on Devil's Halo, my guess is yes.

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Reply #4 posted 11/08/17 10:01am

TrivialPursuit

namepeace said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Hmmm, is that the little trinket on Janet's Control, "Funny How Time Flies"?


I can only hope. Seeing that she covered 80's slow jam "Love You Down" on Devil's Halo, my guess is yes.


That was my thought, too.

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Reply #5 posted 11/08/17 10:47am

StrangeButTrue

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All the songs on the list have huge potential for Me'shell remakes, I can't even with her taking on the Atomic Dog. cool

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Reply #6 posted 11/08/17 3:11pm

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What a great list of songs.
This promo/ad suggests it is a covers album.
Meshell'S voice on these classic pop/soul songs is going to be dope.
https://www.instagram.com...-2XYsDomv/

A new Meshell album served any way is going to be great.



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Reply #7 posted 11/11/17 8:26pm

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After she ripped him in the media.
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Reply #8 posted 11/11/17 8:44pm

TrivialPursuit

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After she ripped him in the media.


She didn't rip him per se, she told her truth based on her experiences. Prince was also sort of a dick sometimes only in that it was his way or no way. He thought everyone should be a Jehovah's Witness. "Now you can cut that how you want, but it's the truth", speaking about stauros. Well, it's his truth, but to him it was fact and everyone should just believe it. Meshell spoke her truth about meeting him and interacting with him. Sinead had a similarly bad experience. Others have too. It's maybe not common, but Prince wasn't perfect. I wish Meshell and him had gotten along, and made some funky ass music together.

Here's what Meshell said:


It’s funny that you mention Prince. You recently tweeted: “in 2002 Prince called me a “house nigga” for making a record for Warner Bros. Past is prelude ain’t it.” But you’ve always praised his music, and you’ve often covered him live. How do you reconcile your personal history with him as an influence?

Oh yeah, he’s not a nice person. But I just have to accept that. It’s just something between he and I that I try to rise above. Maybe one day we will have a good experience, I don’t know. Everyone’s not meant to be friends. But I have no doubt in my mind that the reason I play music is because of him. And I really appreciate all his works.

I felt bad for tweeting, and it taught me a lesson – I can’t let my hurt override my sanity. I asked him to play the guitar solo on ‘Trust’, and that’s when we had that fated phone call. But it’s OK. I try to have empathy. I don’t know what his life is like; I don’t know what made him the person he is.

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Prince was pretty high and mighty about the house nigga comment, considering he knows the ins and outs of a contract, and that she was probably still stuck in one with WB for the time from her days with Maverick. Comfort Woman was her last record for Maverick, in 2003.

Maverick, Madonna's label that Meshell was signed to (as well as people like Alanis Morisette and Michelle Branch) was a subsidiary of WB.

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Reply #9 posted 11/12/17 11:43am

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TrivialPursuit said:



laurarichardson said:


After she ripped him in the media.


She didn't rip him per se, she told her truth based on her experiences. Prince was also sort of a dick sometimes only in that it was his way or no way. He thought everyone should be a Jehovah's Witness. "Now you can cut that how you want, but it's the truth", speaking about stauros. Well, it's his truth, but to him it was fact and everyone should just believe it. Meshell spoke her truth about meeting him and interacting with him. Sinead had a similarly bad experience. Others have too. It's maybe not common, but Prince wasn't perfect. I wish Meshell and him had gotten along, and made some funky ass music together.

Here's what Meshell said:



It’s funny that you mention Prince. You recently tweeted: “in 2002 Prince called me a “house nigga” for making a record for Warner Bros. Past is prelude ain’t it.” But you’ve always praised his music, and you’ve often covered him live. How do you reconcile your personal history with him as an influence?


Oh yeah, he’s not a nice person. But I just have to accept that. It’s just something between he and I that I try to rise above. Maybe one day we will have a good experience, I don’t know. Everyone’s not meant to be friends. But I have no doubt in my mind that the reason I play music is because of him. And I really appreciate all his works.


I felt bad for tweeting, and it taught me a lesson – I can’t let my hurt override my sanity. I asked him to play the guitar solo on ‘Trust’, and that’s when we had that fated phone call. But it’s OK. I try to have empathy. I don’t know what his life is like; I don’t know what made him the person he is.

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Prince was pretty high and mighty about the house nigga comment, considering he knows the ins and outs of a contract, and that she was probably still stuck in one with WB for the time from her days with Maverick. Comfort Woman was her last record for Maverick, in 2003.

Maverick, Madonna's label that Meshell was signed to (as well as people like Alanis Morisette and Michelle Branch) was a subsidiary of WB.


Michelle was on the “Shanichie label which was a part of WB. My guess is Prince offered her help to get off of the label and she turned him down. Now he should not have called her hey uncle Tom house/House N but he was probably hurt that she did not want his help, however what did staying around WB do for her career? She also misunderstood what he was doing when he went to work with WB to get back the masters and made some really stupid comments.
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Reply #10 posted 11/12/17 12:20pm

TrivialPursuit

laurarichardson said:


Michelle was on the “Shanichie label which was a part of WB. My guess is Prince offered her help to get off of the label and she turned him down. Now he should not have called her hey uncle Tom house/House N but he was probably hurt that she did not want his help, however what did staying around WB do for her career? She also misunderstood what he was doing when he went to work with WB to get back the masters and made some really stupid comments.


Shanachie is an indie label out of Jersey. They're distributed by E1. I remember interviewing Leela James long ago and I think it was her 2nd album that was on Shanachie Records. She mentioned how it wasn't a great time for her and she later moved to other indie outlets like Stax (for her third record My Soul which I interviewed her about, and found a home in places like Target).

No one can really speak on her misunderstanding something. That calls for the operation of her mind, and no one here is psychic. She's been in the business for a long time. She gets the idea of masters, etc. She ain't new to the game. Most artists get it because they've all signed a contract turning over ownership of their music. We also do not know if he offered her anything helpful, etc. She did say "I don’t know what his life is like; I don’t know what made him the person he is". She also said she tried to approach her interaction with empathy which dictates that she stepped back and washed her hands of any of their interactions.


Either way, her experience is real and valid for her.

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Reply #11 posted 11/12/17 2:29pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

laurarichardson said:


Michelle was on the “Shanichie label which was a part of WB. My guess is Prince offered her help to get off of the label and she turned him down. Now he should not have called her hey uncle Tom house/House N but he was probably hurt that she did not want his help, however what did staying around WB do for her career? She also misunderstood what he was doing when he went to work with WB to get back the masters and made some really stupid comments.


Shanachie is an indie label out of Jersey. They're distributed by E1. I remember interviewing Leela James long ago and I think it was her 2nd album that was on Shanachie Records. She mentioned how it wasn't a great time for her and she later moved to other indie outlets like Stax (for her third record My Soul which I interviewed her about, and found a home in places like Target).

No one can really speak on her misunderstanding something. That calls for the operation of her mind, and no one here is psychic. She's been in the business for a long time. She gets the idea of masters, etc. She ain't new to the game. Most artists get it because they've all signed a contract turning over ownership of their music. We also do not know if he offered her anything helpful, etc. She did say "I don’t know what his life is like; I don’t know what made him the person he is". She also said she tried to approach her interaction with empathy which dictates that she stepped back and washed her hands of any of their interactions.


Either way, her experience is real and valid for her.

At some point Shanachie was affliated with WB. I worked for a record store back in the day and remember seeing their releashes. https://www.allmusic.com/...000099602.

Do you really think Michelle was doing good when she was with WB? We know Prince helped a few people get out of their deals with some legal assistance. My guess is helping with legal fees or getting them in touch with people. I am not sure why you would think he would snap a Michelle if she had not turned down his help.

She did make public statements that riduclued him when he signed the licensing deal with WB. She totally did not understand what he was doing with that deal and made a foolish snarky comment. She is free to make as many as she likes but it sure seems weird to be jumping on the bandwagon.

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Reply #12 posted 11/13/17 10:14am

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Not to many people outside of the Prince camp do I care to hear do his music. BUT I would love an album of all Prince songs covered by Me'shell.

I love her rendition of Pop Life live

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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