Germanegro said:

CoolMF said:

Sorry, but I gotta keep it real here: TTD's been talking this same record-label-conspiracy-theory/Master-Michael-and-Master-Prince bullshit for over 10 years in every interview he gives.

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For those that don't remember, this dude used to give arrogant as hell interviews back during the Hardline days. In other words, he was Kanye decades before Kanye. The difference is that, album after album, Kanye backed his (arrogant) words up with great music. TTD's subsequent abums didn't appeal to the fans that brought Hardline and, as a result, his sales and clout fell off.

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I'm not a musician or an artist and that's why I don't care for the "artistic integrity" argument. Like the O'Jays said- "you've got to give the people what they want". If you don't want to do that, step aside and don't waste the industry's time- there're millions of talented amateurs living and dying for 1 shot to make it in the industry. If you're fortunate enough to get one, you only have yourself to blame for fucking up the opportunity of a lifetime.

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(FOR ANOTHER THREAD) And on that note, what am I listening to right now? Symphony or Damn (my personal favorite TTD joint)!!!!!

You're contradicting much of your statement with your very last sentence. What were you saying--just to be more clear?

No, there's nothing contradictory about stating why TTD fell off commercially and claiming one of those subsequent albums as a personal favorite.

I like him and some of his songs...but you can tell from his albums that is is overly dramatic

CoolMF said:

Germanegro said:

You're contradicting much of your statement with your very last sentence. What were you saying--just to be more clear?

No, there's nothing contradictory about stating why TTD fell off commercially and claiming one of those subsequent albums as a personal favorite.

I dig and respect that, as I've concurred with basically the same sentiment earlier in the thread. You say that TTD lost industry clout, and certainly he fell off commecially, but he coninued to intrigue you with his works and you bumped that shizz, and to this day. Why is that?

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The label dropped TTD, he crashed, changed his name to feel batter about it, bought back what masters from them he cared about, and moved on.People today still cite his post-Sony album "Wildcard" as a personal favorite of theirs, as well. So what does that say about the industry clout vs his own assertion of importance (Kanye aside, please!)--that his own sense of value is too much, I guess? Or maybe that it's all a GAME of hit-and-miss, unless of course you paint-by-the-hot-track-master's numbers and hit all those commercial buttons of what's hot today?

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As far as what one could read into his interview statements of today, I guess, is that part of his drive is to stir a smidgen of hype toward his new music and to simultaneously fend off more of the industry mill-running and hip the people to what vice and sacrifice is involved in making yourself a rich bi-zoich! I don't worry about all the master-this-and-that-person-speak that he does--that's all respect.

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I'll maintain that the corporation is the conspiracy, still, because if Sananda Maitreya was their game-piece today, they would be reaping most of the profits from his designs, however paltry they may be!

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paisleypark4 said:

I like him and some of his songs...but you can tell from his albums that is is overly dramatic

You should really listen to more of his songs if you can take his current style of music. He sings passionately and he is not jiving anyone.

The guy has a fantastic voice and his first album had some great songs that I really liked. I also liked some of the songs of the second album. But I never dug him as a person, the same way I don't like Kanye West. He started to irritate me quickly so soon I lost interest. Haven't checked any of his music since, but I feel like one day I should wade through it and look for the gems. I wish him all the best.

Introducing The Hardline is a perfect album, but Vibrator is the last time TTD put out anything that I really loved. This is one of the reasons I wish he had stuck with INXS when Hutchence passed.

All that said, he's incredibly talented and I love his voice. Still hoping that eventually he'll release something new that will connect with me.

funkaholic1972 said:

Germanegro said:

paisleypark4 said:

I like him and some of his songs...but you can tell from his albums that is is overly dramatic

You should really listen to more of his songs if you can take his current style of music. He sings passionately and he is not jiving anyone.

I heard a couple tracks off this new double album don't sound bad.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4702037/former-80s-popstar-terence-trent-darby-appears-on-good-morning-britain-with-a-brand-new-identity-and-endures-an-awkward-interview-with-piers-morgan/


I was not understanding why he kept calling Piers Morgan "Master Morgan" and Piers saying he been following his career for a long time. Do they have history??

NorthC said:

I don't have the new album yet, but looking at the tracklist, I see a lot of the same titles on CD 1 & 2. What's this? Different versions of the same songs?

Basically, you have a different version of the album on each Volume 1-3. There is a certain vibe to each disc/volume that I offer a general description toward on the other--announcement-of-the-album-presale thread. Each volume contains slight variations of songs shared on each disc combined with unique songs and older tracks.

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Vol. 1 is mainly Sananda singing "Prometheus" songs and lead on the duets.

Vol. 2 is mainly instrumental versions of songs found on vol. 1 and 3, plus original instrumentals and a few songs sung as well.

Vol. 3 has "Pandora" taking the lead on duet songs found on Vol. 1 and contains most of the older (free solo) tracks that are incorporated into the album.

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Of course, my advice is to listen to each one. Whichever volume I like most depends upon the mood I am in. I honestly feel that Vol. 2 Pegasus (the instrumental disc) is excellent, and it has moved me to download more of Sananda's instrumental album music (Nigor Mortis Instrumentals currently aquired).

NorthC said:

Okay, thanks for the info. And who's Pandora? TTD/Sananda in disguise? I'm just trying to get an idea of what this is like before I buy 3 CDs.

LOL --singer Luisa Corna is the voice of Pandora. She appears on the video of "It's Been a Long Time."

OperatingThetan said:

I used to love TTD, but haven't bought or listened to anything since 'Wildcard'. What's the best place to start?

I'm finding it hard to advise on where to best begin. My instinct usually is to start at the beginning of the new phase and work through, but that could be impractical for the impatient or particular-minded. You could check his songs on Youtube to figure out what's cool for you--he has his own channel.

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There isn't a best-of compilation of the stuff, and just as well, I guess, because you can download individual tracks from Amazon, ITunes, his sanandamaitreya.com site, and streaming on Spotify. He is accessible!

After Wildcard, I have to say I prefer the last 2 ("The Rise Of The Zugebrian Time Lords" and "Prometheus&Pandora") than the 4 before.

The sound in many songs is less stripped-down and more elaborated, and they contains (finally) some tunes from Sananda's back catalogue (notably and finally "Paradise Postpone", a masterpiece lost for many years).

To be honest, I listened to A&V and the following 3 just one time.

Unfortunately I found them somewhat uneventful (and at time also boring).

On a side note, I think all latest Sananda releases suffers from a bad mastering, who actually changes also from song to song in the same album. Maybe it is due to the research of a "dirty" sound, but frankly I find a little distracting from the music itself.