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Reply #30 posted 01/30/17 7:16am

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mjscarousal said:

Of course there are MJ fan sites but if there are Prince fans who are ALSO fans of MJ (who want to talk about MJ) they should ALSO also be able to discuss and talk about MJ here without being censored (which is what has happened on this site)


Agreed, and I hope the fans can have better discussions by starting threads with a specific topic in mind. There really aren't many new threads on the org each day.

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Reply #31 posted 01/30/17 7:48am

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LBrent said:

but I never see the fans of any other artists except MJ fans attempt to take over this site,


That also doesn't happen here. That's all in your (or any threatened Prince fan's) mind.

And to the rest of your comment, 3 words:

Music: Non-Prince


It's not called Music: Non-Prince, but also not too much about Michael Jackson. So all your objections are totally invalid. People should be able to talk about whatever artist they want to talk about and if they want to talk about Michael, then people here should just act like grown ups and accept it, instead of imposing silly restrictions, just because they can't deal with the fact that people want to talk about the one guy, who was always pitted and regarded as the main rival and superior of Prince.


Why do MJ fans have a problem with me only being a fan of P and not being a fan of MJ? It seems to really get y'all upset


Seriously, no one gives a rat's ass of whom you are a fan. People just wonder why you and anyone else who is not a fan, goes into a thread of an artist they don't like, to complain that people want to talk about that artist. Why not simply not waste your and everyone elses time and just ignore it? Not every thread has to be about an artist you like.

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Reply #32 posted 01/30/17 11:37am

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PatrickS77 said:

People should be able to talk about whatever artist they want to talk about and if they want to talk about Michael, then people here should just act like grown ups and accept it, instead of imposing silly restrictions, just because they can't deal with the fact that people want to talk about the one guy, who was always pitted and regarded as the main rival and superior of Prince.

Um. Yeah. No.

The owner of this fansite has designated a specific area for that.

I was moseying around this P fan site and saw a conversation going on and contributed to it. I'm not the one who is restricted to a designated area. As a matter of fact, I've only ever noticed MJ fans being restricted in that way. Must be something in the water. Hmmm

I wasn't being rude and I wasn't talking about P, which since it is a fansite dedicated to showing appreciation for him, would be understandable but unecessary in that conversation.

Anyway, you're right...Not every thread has to be about a performer you like...especially on a fansite that wasn't dedicated to that performer. wink

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Reply #33 posted 01/30/17 4:17pm

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Im glad, I dont like long long posts like that. What about if someone just wanted to talk about the creation of Baby Be Mine for example...it would get lost in the feed etc.

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Reply #34 posted 01/30/17 5:28pm

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LBrent said:

PatrickS77 said:

People should be able to talk about whatever artist they want to talk about and if they want to talk about Michael, then people here should just act like grown ups and accept it, instead of imposing silly restrictions, just because they can't deal with the fact that people want to talk about the one guy, who was always pitted and regarded as the main rival and superior of Prince.

Um. Yeah. No.

The owner of this fansite has designated a specific area for that.

I was moseying around this P fan site and saw a conversation going on and contributed to it. I'm not the one who is restricted to a designated area. As a matter of fact, I've only ever noticed MJ fans being restricted in that way. Must be something in the water. Hmmm

I wasn't being rude and I wasn't talking about P, which since it is a fansite dedicated to showing appreciation for him, would be understandable but unecessary in that conversation.

Anyway, you're right...Not every thread has to be about a performer you like...especially on a fansite that wasn't dedicated to that performer. wink

lol

THAT'S because of 2009 when This Is It was announced which was followed by his passing. This section got flooded by threads about him and the whole family, and not all were made by diehard MJ fans. Some threads about music, and some troll and really distasteful threads. The mods decided to regulate to one thread and here we are today.

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Reply #35 posted 01/30/17 6:26pm

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I have never seen this pic before.....found it on twitter....thoses look like early Air Jordans?

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Reply #36 posted 01/30/17 10:15pm

DonRants

Very cool pic. I love the Liscense plates. GOAT - Greatest of All Time....very appropriate!

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Reply #37 posted 01/30/17 11:28pm

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Goddess4Real said:

I have never seen this pic before.....found it on twitter....thoses look like early Air Jordans?

C2hGzZ2UkAAPEdH.jpg

[Edited 1/30/17 18:48pm]

Michael looks adorable, nice pic!

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Reply #38 posted 01/31/17 12:50am

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LBrent said:



mjscarousal said:


Because you are always questioning why "MJ fans" are on this site. Did it ever occur to you that there are PRINCE fans here who also are fans of MJ that are posters here? I see you are a new poster so that tells me everything I need to know right there. You don't need to tell me about MJ fan sites I know all of them.



Yes, I'm new to POSTING here, but I'm not new to this site. I joined under a different name back around Emancipation then...life happened.



Anyway...Yes, I realize that fans of P may also be fans of other artists, but I never see the fans of any other artists except MJ fans attempt to take over this site, knowing that the management doesn't want that.



I never see fans of any other artist complain about not being able to "discuss without restriction".



That tells me all I need to know.



I know you already know all the places that you could post unrestricted about MJ and yet, despite objections by attempts to do that here, you continue to try to do that here. It feels as if fans who go to other fansites and do that are ignoring the simple courtesy and the simple fact that if you ike A and B but are on A's fansite, that is the focus...not B.



If this were a matter of a P fan trying this on an MJ fansite the MJ fans wouldn't allow it either. It's rude immature behavior, especially since you and I aren't teenagers (well, mebbe in spirit. lol).



The whole point of being an adult is to know what's appropriate and what is not, no?



When so many threads commented on by P/MJ fans or MJ fans in the Main forum somehow turns into "I'm a P fan, but MJ...blahblahblah..." That's rude. But somehow it turns into "Y'all hate MJ!" No...It's simply not about MJ on a P forum. The management was generous enough to provide an area to discuss MJ and y'all still aren't satisfied.It's as if after MJ died MJ fans needed another celeb to crush on so they found themselves gravitating to thier second or third or fourth choice, P. P isn't my second choice, he's my first choice so I dunno what to tellya.



I don't "hate" MJ, I'm simply indifferent to him for maaaaany reasons. I have no problem with P fans also being fans of MJ...Why do MJ fans have a problem with me only being a fan of P and not being a fan of MJ? It seems to really get y'all upset.



I have no authority here. I'm simply a P fan who posts about P on a P forum and not an MJ forum.



smile




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Reply #39 posted 01/31/17 1:27am

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Hudson said:

mjscarousal said:

Of course there are MJ fan sites but if there are Prince fans who are ALSO fans of MJ (who want to talk about MJ) they should ALSO also be able to discuss and talk about MJ here without being censored (which is what has happened on this site)


Agreed, and I hope the fans can have better discussions by starting threads with a specific topic in mind. There really aren't many new threads on the org each day.

I agree but we will see how this plays out. The Prince fans here are threatned by MJ so the sticky might be added again.

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Reply #40 posted 01/31/17 4:20am

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Based on what I've seen here, the justification is that since this is a Prince site, MJ shouldn't be talked about.

...despite the fact that there is a non-Prince forum which is the only place MJ is talked about.
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Reply #41 posted 01/31/17 4:42am

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Goddess4Real said:

I have never seen this pic before.....found it on twitter....thoses look like early Air Jordans?

C2hGzZ2UkAAPEdH.jpg

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see how photoshop can sway ...the original Air Jordans came out in late 1984/early 1985.

This picture was taken right in the heart of Thriller circa 1983

and no way did he have a license plate that said GOAT....that acronym didn't even exist then....

in the real authentic version of this same pic, Michael was wearing loafers like he always did during those years

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Reply #42 posted 01/31/17 4:55am

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Scorp said:

Goddess4Real said:

I have never seen this pic before.....found it on twitter....thoses look like early Air Jordans?

C2hGzZ2UkAAPEdH.jpg

[Edited 1/30/17 18:48pm]

see how photoshop can sway ...the original Air Jordans came out in late 1984/early 1985.

This picture was taken right in the heart of Thriller circa 1983

and no way did he have a license plate that said GOAT....that acronym didn't even exist then....

[Edited 1/31/17 4:48am]

Actually, I disagree. This picture looks like it's from 1985. Looks to be around Captain Eo.

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Reply #43 posted 01/31/17 5:26am

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Derek1984 said:

Scorp said:

see how photoshop can sway ...the original Air Jordans came out in late 1984/early 1985.

This picture was taken right in the heart of Thriller circa 1983

and no way did he have a license plate that said GOAT....that acronym didn't even exist then....

[Edited 1/31/17 4:48am]

Actually, I disagree. This picture looks like it's from 1985. Looks to be around Captain Eo.

I've seen this pic like ten thousand times and nobody was driving around w/a license plate that said GOAT, that's a sports acronym that didn't really kick off until NFL legend Jerry Rice retired in the early 2000s......

MJ was sporting loafers like he always did during those years....

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Reply #44 posted 01/31/17 6:24am

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Scorp said:

Derek1984 said:

Actually, I disagree. This picture looks like it's from 1985. Looks to be around Captain Eo.

I've seen this pic like ten thousand times and nobody was driving around w/a license plate that said GOAT, that's a sports acronym that didn't really kick off until NFL legend Jerry Rice retired in the early 2000s......

MJ was sporting loafers like he always did during those years....

The license plate looks photoshop. But that does look like Hayvenhurst behind him and the face looks like 1985 to me.

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Reply #45 posted 01/31/17 6:44am

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Derek1984 said:



Scorp said:




Derek1984 said:




Actually, I disagree. This picture looks like it's from 1985. Looks to be around Captain Eo.





I've seen this pic like ten thousand times and nobody was driving around w/a license plate that said GOAT, that's a sports acronym that didn't really kick off until NFL legend Jerry Rice retired in the early 2000s.....



MJ was sporting loafers like he always did during those years....






The license plate looks photoshop. But that does look like Hayvenhurst behind him and the face looks like 1985 to me.




The actual picture itself is real

That license plate and those shoes are photoshopped like no tomorrow

After MJ participated in the We Are The World project in 1985, we rarely saw any pictures of Michael that year
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Reply #46 posted 01/31/17 7:27am

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Scorp said:

Derek1984 said:

The license plate looks photoshop. But that does look like Hayvenhurst behind him and the face looks like 1985 to me.

The actual picture itself is real That license plate and those shoes are photoshopped like no tomorrow After MJ participated in the We Are The World project in 1985, we rarely saw any pictures of Michael that year

Busy recording demos for BAD, plastic surgery, and it made sense to limit his expsosure considering how over exposed he was during the Thriller era.

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Reply #47 posted 01/31/17 8:28am

Scorp

Derek1984 said:



Scorp said:


Derek1984 said:



The license plate looks photoshop. But that does look like Hayvenhurst behind him and the face looks like 1985 to me.



The actual picture itself is real That license plate and those shoes are photoshopped like no tomorrow After MJ participated in the We Are The World project in 1985, we rarely saw any pictures of Michael that year


Busy recording demos for BAD, plastic surgery, and it made sense to limit his expsosure considering how over exposed he was during the Thriller era.




Me personally, I didn't feel he was overexposed because from 82-85, he was dropping gauntlet after gauntlet with one great effort after another

He developed a great sense of timing on when to pull back and when to return

I dont think he was overexposed during any point of his career
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Reply #48 posted 01/31/17 12:59pm

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If my memory serves me the expression GOAT originated with Earl Manigault. A New York playground legend who many felt was the best basketball player of all time, but sadly he never got to the NBA. However I don't think it was capitalized. He was just "The Goat" but it ment the Greatest of All Time.

It was said he was better than Doctor J and his best years were in the 1960s. So the expression was around for a while and of course Muhammed Ali would repeatedly refer to himself as such from the 50s but it seems the capitalization started later when his wife copywrited it for liscensing purposes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/..._Manigault

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Reply #49 posted 01/31/17 1:10pm

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Related image

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Reply #50 posted 01/31/17 1:26pm

Scorp

DonRants said:

If my memory serves me the expression GOAT originated with Earl Manigault. A New York playground legend who many felt was the best basketball player of all time, but sadly he never got to the NBA. However I don't think it was capitalized. He was just "The Goat" but it ment the Greatest of All Time.


It was said he was better than Doctor J and his best years were in the 1960s. So the expression was around for a while and of course Muhammed Ali would repeatedly refer to himself as such from the 50s but it seems the capitalization started later when his wife copywrited it for liscensing purposes.



https://en.wikipedia.org/..._Manigault







Ive never heard Ali use the word "goat". He referred to himself as the greatest


In the professional sports realm, the first pro athlete I can recall who was referred to as the goat was NFL legend Jerry Rice
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Reply #51 posted 01/31/17 4:43pm

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Scorp said:

Derek1984 said:

The license plate looks photoshop. But that does look like Hayvenhurst behind him and the face looks like 1985 to me.

The actual picture itself is real That license plate and those shoes are photoshopped like no tomorrow After MJ participated in the We Are The World project in 1985, we rarely saw any pictures of Michael that year

Dang it looked real to me confused

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Reply #52 posted 01/31/17 5:01pm

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Goddess4Real said:

Scorp said:

Derek1984 said: The actual picture itself is real That license plate and those shoes are photoshopped like no tomorrow After MJ participated in the We Are The World project in 1985, we rarely saw any pictures of Michael that year

Dang it looked real to me confused

I know lollllllll.....

I'll find the real authentic version of this pic w/out any photoshop touchups and post it when I can

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Reply #53 posted 01/31/17 6:38pm

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Goddess4Real said:

Scorp said:

Derek1984 said: The actual picture itself is real That license plate and those shoes are photoshopped like no tomorrow After MJ participated in the We Are The World project in 1985, we rarely saw any pictures of Michael that year

Dang it looked real to me confused

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Reply #54 posted 01/31/17 6:42pm

Scorp

bboy87 said:



Goddess4Real said:




Scorp said:


Derek1984 said: The actual picture itself is real That license plate and those shoes are photoshopped like no tomorrow After MJ participated in the We Are The World project in 1985, we rarely saw any pictures of Michael that year


Dang it looked real to me confused







Biiiingo, there it go lolllll

The real picture of the real picture

Thanks for posting the proof beyond the proof


I guess that photoshopped version will be yanked right about now from circulation loll


Im gonna go chill now lolll


Thanks again
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Reply #55 posted 02/01/17 4:29am

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Scorp said:

bboy87 said:



Goddess4Real said:




Scorp said:


Derek1984 said: The actual picture itself is real That license plate and those shoes are photoshopped like no tomorrow After MJ participated in the We Are The World project in 1985, we rarely saw any pictures of Michael that year


Dang it looked real to me confused







Biiiingo, there it go lolllll

The real picture of the real picture

Thanks for posting the proof beyond the proof


I guess that photoshopped version will be yanked right about now from circulation loll


Im gonna go chill now lolll


Thanks again
[Edited 1/31/17 18:52pm]


I knew right away it was fake and photoshopped, and got a good laugh watching the conversation unfold
lol lol love the original though now I'm feeling silly if it isn't. He just looks so beautiful, content, perfect....
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Reply #56 posted 02/01/17 4:49am

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Now that picture makes MJ look different... Maybe it is 1983/84

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Reply #57 posted 02/01/17 5:13am

Scorp

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Now that picture makes MJ look different... Maybe it is 1983/84

yeah.....lollll

this real of the real picture was taken during the heart of the Thriller years

big difference between fact and fiction lol lol lol

that means whoever doctored this picture up, probably drew allot of attention to themselves and in the processs swayed many into believing something that was real but distorted.

Thus creating the illusion lol

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Reply #58 posted 02/01/17 5:59am

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if this thread is a fair representation of the depth of discourse in the former sticky, i can kind of see why it was deleted...

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Reply #59 posted 02/01/17 3:28pm

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Anyway to get a date on this Pic? My guess is 86. This actually looks post Captain EO to me.

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