NorthC said:

Elvis belongs to the 1950s.

In the USA anyway, Elvis was popular in the 1960s. That's when most of his movies and soundtracks came out. At one point he was the highest paid actor in Hollywood. That "comeback" TV special in the late 1960 was a big deal.

The Supremes was one of the biggest acts too.

MickyDolenz said:

MickyDolenz said:

Guitarhero said:

Just saying my opinion he seems to put Prince down the list of a influential star of the 80's.

I said nothing about anyone's influence, not Prince's, Mike's, or Def Leppard's. I'm only talking about sales, chart hits, and what was on the radio & MTV. I used to read Billboard every week because they carried it in the neighborhood library. I even said Pink Floyd sold a lot of albums without getting much Top 40 airplay and that Madonna wasn't really successful in movies. If I said Milli Vanilli sold more than Lovesexy & Sign O'The Times, that's what happened. It has nothing to do with who has more influence. Several of Def Leppards & Van Halen albums had huge sales, not just 1 like Prince & Bruce Springsteen. The entire purpose of publications like Billboard & Cashbox is to determine what is selling the most that week. If I say Coca Cola sells more than Tab, what's to debate? That because someone likes Tab and thinks its better than Coke or says Tab had more influence on later soda, does not make it a bigger seller than Coke.

MickyDolenz said:

Guitarhero said:

Just saying my opinion he seems to put Prince down the list of a influential star of the 80's.

I said nothing about anyone's influence, not Prince's, Mike's, or Def Leppard's. I'm only talking about sales, chart hits, and what was on the radio & MTV. I used to read Billboard every week because they carried it in the neighborhood library. I even said Pink Floyd sold a lot of albums without getting much Top 40 airplay and that Madonna wasn't really successful in movies. If I said Milli Vanilli sold more than Lovesexy & Sign O'The Times, that's what happened. It has nothing to do with who has more influence. Several of Def Leppards & Van Halen albums had huge sales, not just 1 like Prince & Bruce Springsteen. The entire purpose of publications like Billboard & Cashbox is to determine what is selling the most that week. If I say Coca Cola sells more than Tab, what's to debate? That because someone likes Tab and thinks its better than Coke or says Tab had more influence on later soda, does not make it a bigger seller than Coke.

Fair enough Did not mean any offence to you. I should read first and then take note. Peace.

NorthC said:

But he was playing old fashioned blues and rock & roll in the time of flower power, protest marches, psychedelica... That's what I meant with capturing the "zeitgeist". Elvis did that in the 1950s, but not in the 1960s.

People today think the 1960s was all rock music or British Invasion, but the older audience were still buying records. During the mid 1960s, there was a big bossa nova craze in the US, started by The Girl From Ipanema. Just like in the 1950s calypso & exotica was popular. I think the movie Black Orpheus won an Oscar, and it had bossa nova music in it. Singers like Frank Sinatra & Johnny Mathis was selling pretty good in the late 1960s. The Reprise label was started by Frank. Easy listening acts like Percy Faith was getting radio hits. TV was full of variety shows like Ed Sullivan and Lawrence Welk. Welk's show ran all the way up to the early 1980s. None of that is really publicized today because the music magazines like Rolling Stone & Creem mainly focused on rock music.

Here's the Top 16 of the Hot 100 in Billboard for July 6, 1968. I don't think This Guy's In Love With You & Angel Of The Morning are very psychedelic.

MickyDolenz said:

TonyVanDam said:

CORRECTION: Public Enemy, David Bowie, & Prince were promoting and selling their music on the World Wide Web right BEFORE music fans started the [illegal] downloading revolution and definitely years BEFORE Apple Computers thought about iTunes.

That only helped themselves, it didn't change anything about how the labels ran their business or what other acts did, so they did not "change the game". Motley Crue and Genesis owned their masters in the 1980s, years before Prince started talking about it. Motley Crue owned theirs from the beginning, they just leased them to a major. Those exceptions still did not change the business. So Prince still did not change anything, he only helped himself. It also helped that Prince was already rich and had an audience from his Warners days for touring. A new act off the street is not going to make a lot of demands if they're offered a deal. Look at TLC. George Michael had problems with Sony for years.

Besides themselves, it gave inspiration to independent artists to stay "independent" via the use of the WorldWideWeb.

NorthC said:

There's 8 out of those 16 songs that I don't know. (#s 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 15, 16.)

Have you ever heard the Shaggy (the dancehall singer) song Angel? The chorus came from Angel Of The Morning. It wasn't sampled, but was resung. Grazing In The Grass is an instrumental. There is a later remake with lyrics by Friends Of Distinction. The Cowsills are a family group, with a mother and her children. The early 1970s TV show Partridge Family was based on The Cowsills. The Cowsills has a documentary made 3 or 4 years ago.

MickyDolenz said:

Prince is not really the biggest of the 1980s, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Def Leppard, and others sold more than him, which is an indicator of popularity. Madonna was also recieved radio airplay longer than Prince. Madonna still had hits after 1994 when Prince last had a big hit single. Walking around with "slave" on your face and calling yourself a symbol is not a way to get people to buy your records. Just makes jokes for comedians.

I didn't like the way Prince handled his feud with Warners I really think that,if he had handled things differently,he may have gotten ownership of his master recordings much sooner than he did. The name change nonsense,writing "slave" on his face....it all seemed silly and childish to me.

purplethunder3121 said:

That's a hot pic

Goddess4Real said:

purplethunder3121 said:

That's a hot pic

I wasn't fond of the stripper glitter moments. In the hair etc.

ML2016 said:

RachB65 said:

ML2016 said:

I would add Latoya to the great artists of the 80s. Her hits smashed the charts again and again. That's when she became the Pope of Pop.

Nah. I dont remember even one song of hers but i remember her brothers' n sister's tunes vividly

That's because the Illuminati don't want you to know about Latoya. Her message of love and peace and goodness was too dangerous to be revealed to this impure world. But Latoya stood still. And created hit after hit.

ML2016 said:

That's because the Illuminati don't want you to know about Latoya. Her message of love and peace and goodness was too dangerous to be revealed to this impure world. But Latoya stood still. And created hit after hit.

MickyDolenz said:

ML2016 said:

That's because the Illuminati don't want you to know about Latoya. Her message of love and peace and goodness was too dangerous to be revealed to this impure world. But Latoya stood still. And created hit after hit.

Are you jelly of Toy Toy?

ML2016 said:

RachB65 said:

ML2016 said: Nah. I dont remember even one song of hers but i remember her brothers' n sister's tunes vividly

That's because the Illuminati don't want you to know about Latoya. Her message of love and peace and goodness was too dangerous to be revealed to this impure world. But Latoya stood still. And created hit after hit.

You just exposed the real plot of the Illuminati! To keep Latoya out of the public awareness.

ML2016 said:

Are you jelly of Toy Toy?

mjscarousal said:

MJ, Madonna and Prince represent the Renaissance era of pop music and entertainment. We will never see anyone reach the stardom they had or talent. Its something that can't be manufactured or created. You are either born with it or your not. I feel blessed to have been exposed to their music in my youth. R..I.P. to the greats MJ and Prince

I definitely agree with all that you said.

MickyDolenz said:

ML2016 said:

Are you jelly of Toy Toy?

There's a reason people used to think Latoya and Michael were the same person. 'Cause people thought Michael's apparent talent could only have been Latoya's. But Toy, humble to almost shamefacedness, always refused to parade her talent. And, of course, The Illuminati also had an hand in all of this as they tried everything to keep her under the radar due to the message of her incredible songs such as "Free the World" or "Heart Don't Lie", the latter having a lot of subliminal messages.