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Thread started 03/27/16 12:37pm

mjscarousal

Why do so many people in the industry hate JANET?

I was surfing on youtube recently and there is a video of Khia straight up TRASHING Janet and her new album. She states that Janet had cut her cameo appearance out of her "So excited" video, is there more to why Khia hates her? I know I know Khia is a one hit wonder but I have heard a lot of other artists make similiar comments about Janet. There is a video on youtube where Shaggy who also did a song with JANET is straight up trashing her too eek . Shaggy has also trashed her for a couple of years because I think Janet featured on one of his songs but refused to appear in the video. There is a couple of interviews I have read where LA Reid shades the hell out of Janet and trashes her, L.A. managed Janet for a while when she was on his label in 08. Paula Abdul has als shaded her in a couple of interviews. There was a recent tweet she did not to long ago where she excluded Janet from the most talented Jacksons and just mentioned MJ. I have read interviews from other celebrities where they say Janet is not that nice. Thoughts? After these cancellations without any explanations given, I am starting to believe some of these stories might have some truth to them.

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Reply #1 posted 03/27/16 1:21pm

SoulAlive

mjscarousal said:

I was surfing on youtube recently and there is a video of Khia straight up TRASHING Janet and her new album. She states that Janet had cut her cameo appearance out of her "So excited" video, is there more to why Khia hates her?

She was also pissed when Janet performed the song on 'Oprah' without inviting her to appear.Khia is a very classless,"ghetto" lady biggrin Not sure why Janet agreed to the collaboration in the first place.I'm betting that it was Jermaine's Dupri's idea.

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Reply #2 posted 03/27/16 1:27pm

SoulAlive

mjscarousal said:

I have read interviews from other celebrities where they say Janet is not that nice. Thoughts? After these cancellations without any explanations given, I am starting to believe some of these stories might have some truth to them.

I recall a Salt N' Pepa interview where they were asked about famous people that they had met.They said that it was disappointing when they met Janet.They felt that Janet was too shy and aloof and "not at all like we thought she would be".

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Reply #3 posted 03/27/16 1:33pm

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Reply #4 posted 03/27/16 1:38pm

SoulAlive

People think of Janet as this sweet,nice lady but in the early 90s,she was going around dissing Madonna for no apparent reason.Madonna was even asked about it in this interview:

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Reply #5 posted 03/27/16 2:08pm

duccichucka

Is it possible that Janet Jackson may be a major asshole behind closed studio doors? Why
does she have to be loved by so many people in the industry? And how do we even know
if she is truly hated by "so many people" anyways? Implicit in the poster's question is the
claim that being adored by so many people is preferred; but who gives a fuck if people in
the industry do or don't like you? The fan is the most important person in this relationship!

Anyways, her best vocals are heard in "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" - the background
vocal melody at 5:13 in that song is gorgeous. Oh, and the 9th (a B flat) she sings at 1:30
(the lyric is "you") is freaking amazing too! Or, I just love 9ths.

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Reply #6 posted 03/27/16 2:14pm

alphastreet

I think she's reserved and has a monotone and I can see how that comes off as arrogant or stand offish. Maybe she's just that guarded but I've also heard things from fans who aren't fans anymore. I didn't know paula dissed or ignored her, ouch. I wonder if it has to do with the Tina Landon situation, they were friends right

Maybe she's not liked for calling her own shots often if it's true, and people feel threatened by a strong person
[Edited 3/27/16 14:15pm]
[Edited 3/27/16 14:15pm]
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Reply #7 posted 03/27/16 2:28pm

duccichucka

Fuck it: only because it's Easter am I gonna get slightly theological:

Janet Jackson is amazing. If you know anything about Soren Kierkegaard, you know about how
he seduced Regine Olsen, became engaged with her, then called off the engagement because
of how he was concerned that his depression would ruin the relationship; and, he thought that in
order to truly live his life for God, he couldn't be married as that would prevent him from total
devotion to God. In other words, he "sacrificed" her, in his actions. Regine begged him to come
back and resume the relationship. He refused her and acted like she didn't matter. At some
point, even Regine's father asked Kierkegaard to rethink his decision as his daughter was abso-
lutely devastated. Eventually, Regine married another and moved out of Denmark and Kierkegaard
spent his nights crying and alone. He essentially wrote Fear & Trembling, his greatest work, about
how faith is higher than the ethical and blah blah blah - but, some read it as an "explanation" to
Regine. When she died, many, many years after Kierkegaard dropped dead, she told researchers
that she never stopped loving him. But anyways, the song "If," not that this was intentional on the
songwriters and JJ's part, is perfect as an imagined response by Regine to Kierkegaard's actions.

I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Janet Jackson.

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Reply #8 posted 03/27/16 2:29pm

duccichucka

alphastreet said:

Maybe she's not liked for calling her own shots often if it's true, and people feel threatened by a strong person [Edited 3/27/16 14:15pm] [Edited 3/27/16 14:15pm]


Agreed.

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Reply #9 posted 03/27/16 2:34pm

mynameisnotsus
an

Boy George called her a rude cow in his bio. They were both performing Top of the Pops in the U.k and he went to meet her without any makeup she didn't recognise who he was and treated him crap - so later when someone in her crew came around with a video camera to say "hi" to Janet he told them she can shove the camera up her ass.
I always knew that giggly sweet as pie shtick was a put on.
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Reply #10 posted 03/27/16 2:45pm

duccichucka

mynameisnotsusan said:

Boy George called her a rude cow in his bio. They were both performing Top of the Pops in the U.k and he went to meet her without any makeup she didn't recognise who he was and treated him crap - so later when someone in her crew came around with a video camera to say "hi" to Janet he told them she can shove the camera up her ass. I always knew that giggly sweet as pie shtick was a put on.


But who cares, NotSusan? Boy George may have been high as fuck, prompting Jackson to be
annoyed with him. I just don't understand the desire to have our favorite recording artists be
just as nice as we sometimes are. Because I know for a fact that a few of the posters in this
thread can be fucking assholes sometimes, so how dare they or anyone implicitly claim that Jan-
et Jackson must not be? I'm sure you've asshole moments too, NotSusan. As for "put ons," aren't
we all putting on and putting on all the time?

The answer is "yes."

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Reply #11 posted 03/27/16 2:55pm

mjscarousal

SoulAlive said:

People think of Janet as this sweet,nice lady but in the early 90s,she was going around dissing Madonna for no apparent reason.Madonna was even asked about it in this interview:

To be fair and in Janet's defense, Madonna started that beef first. razz Madonna bad mouth about Janet to Michael when they briefly hung out. That is actually partially the reason why MJ had cut ties with Madonna among other things. I DO AGREE though that Janet is not as sweet and innocent as she portrays. She has done a number of questionable things that suggests that she is not as "nice" as she lets on. I have always felt she was rather phony in that respect.

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Reply #12 posted 03/27/16 2:59pm

RosesRred

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Don't hate, Congratulate.

or

because of the fact that the young boy sitting next to

her, is her BROTHER.

or

or

because she's married to this billionaire

but of course this ....

"I'm in Control - Never gonna stop"-- Janet

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Reply #13 posted 03/27/16 3:02pm

mjscarousal

mynameisnotsusan said:

Boy George called her a rude cow in his bio. They were both performing Top of the Pops in the U.k and he went to meet her without any makeup she didn't recognise who he was and treated him crap - so later when someone in her crew came around with a video camera to say "hi" to Janet he told them she can shove the camera up her ass. I always knew that giggly sweet as pie shtick was a put on.

WOW eek

I have heard a lot of similiar things by other celebrities. When Kevin Heart walked up to Janet and made a light heart joke and said, so "I hear you are into short guys" (I dont think that joke was that bad, its actually kinda cute) but Kevin said Janet straight up dissed him. hmmm If I was Janet I would have just laughed it off. It wasn't a mean spirited joke. He was obviously just trying to be friendly.

[Edited 3/27/16 15:05pm]

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Reply #14 posted 03/27/16 3:03pm

mjscarousal

RosesRred said:

Don't hate, Congratulate.

or

because of the fact that the young boy sitting next to

her, is her BROTHER.

or

or

because she's married to this billionaire

but of course this ....

"I'm in Control - Never gonna stop"-- Janet

We already know Janet is fierce and is a legend. I was just wondering why it seems as though a lot of people in the industry don't like her.

Tina Landon called her out too before they patched up their differences.

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Reply #15 posted 03/27/16 3:17pm

SoulAlive

mynameisnotsusan said:

Boy George called her a rude cow in his bio. They were both performing Top of the Pops in the U.k and he went to meet her without any makeup she didn't recognise who he was and treated him crap - so later when someone in her crew came around with a video camera to say "hi" to Janet he told them she can shove the camera up her ass. I always knew that giggly sweet as pie shtick was a put on.

to be fair,Boy George is notorious for being "bitchy" smile He's not a very nice person at all.He loves to diss other celebrities.

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Reply #16 posted 03/27/16 3:31pm

mjscarousal

alphastreet said:

I think she's reserved and has a monotone and I can see how that comes off as arrogant or stand offish. Maybe she's just that guarded but I've also heard things from fans who aren't fans anymore. I didn't know paula dissed or ignored her, ouch. I wonder if it has to do with the Tina Landon situation, they were friends right Maybe she's not liked for calling her own shots often if it's true, and people feel threatened by a strong person [Edited 3/27/16 14:15pm] [Edited 3/27/16 14:15pm]

Being reserved and being unfriendly are two different things. I know a lot of people who are shy and reserved but are still very friendly and polite. Janet comes off as very pretentious. She seems to be friendly with people she wants to be friendly with. There have been a ton of accounts made by celebrities of things she has done and said that have been not "so nice." She probably is a nice person but I generally hear that from people who are friends with her not other random celebrities.

[Edited 3/27/16 15:31pm]

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Reply #17 posted 03/27/16 4:29pm

mancabdriver

What kind of bollocks thread is this?

Boy George and Madonna are the two biggest bitches in the industry - why would anyone take their side of the story as the truth?

Sandy / Pepa mentioned in her biography or some article that she used to hang out with Janet in the 90s so they couldn't have been too unimpressed with her.

Paula to this day posts throwback pics of her and Janet on Twitter with kind and nostalgic captions. She even allowed one of her groups to perform RN on the x-factor. Although I think she was a little pissed about her impression of her on SNL (btw the Snl cast loved having Jsnet on in 2004, she gave them all gifts and asked her to come back on anytime)

I think this thread was made by people posing as Janet fans who tend to subtly shade her and try to tactfully defame her name regularly on this forum.

Although UK host Graham Norton and Shaggy really do hate her - but that's life, you don't get along with everyone
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Reply #18 posted 03/27/16 4:35pm

SoulAlive

rolleyes OK,then you tell us....what did Madonna do to make Janet diss her? Was Janet pissed because Madonna was hanging out with Michael around that time? Please inform us.

mancabdriver said:

What kind of bollocks thread is this? Boy George and Madonna are the two biggest bitches in the industry - why would anyone take their side of the story as the truth?
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Reply #19 posted 03/27/16 4:36pm

SoulAlive

mancabdriver said:

Sandy / Pepa mentioned in her biography or some article that she used to hang out with Janet in the 90s so they couldn't have been too unimpressed with her.

I'm just reporting what they said in a Vibe magazine interview rolleyes

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Reply #20 posted 03/27/16 4:40pm

mancabdriver

SoulAlive said:

rolleyes OK,then you tell us....what did Madonna do to make Janet diss her? Was Janet pissed because Madonna was hanging out with Michael around that time? Please inform us.





mancabdriver said:


What kind of bollocks thread is this? Boy George and Madonna are the two biggest bitches in the industry - why would anyone take their side of the story as the truth?


I don't bloody know, no one does - but Madonna is the only artist Janet has ever dissed. Whilst the list is endless with Madge ( usually someone who is hotter than her or outselling her at the time) So there must have been a good reason. Perhaps the way she treated her brother could be an answer??
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Reply #21 posted 03/27/16 4:47pm

SoulAlive

mancabdriver said:

SoulAlive said:

rolleyes OK,then you tell us....what did Madonna do to make Janet diss her? Was Janet pissed because Madonna was hanging out with Michael around that time? Please inform us.

I don't bloody know, no one does - but Madonna is the only artist Janet has ever dissed. Whilst the list is endless with Madge ( usually someone who is hotter than her or outselling her at the time) So there must have been a good reason. Perhaps the way she treated her brother could be an answer??

The way she treated her brother?! What did she do that was so terrible? When I see pics of them together,it looked like they were having alot of fun.He was always smiling and seemed to enjoy her company.

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Reply #22 posted 03/27/16 4:51pm

mjscarousal

mancabdriver said:

What kind of bollocks thread is this? Boy George and Madonna are the two biggest bitches in the industry - why would anyone take their side of the story as the truth? Sandy / Pepa mentioned in her biography or some article that she used to hang out with Janet in the 90s so they couldn't have been too unimpressed with her. Paula to this day posts throwback pics of her and Janet on Twitter with kind and nostalgic captions. She even allowed one of her groups to perform RN on the x-factor. Although I think she was a little pissed about her impression of her on SNL (btw the Snl cast loved having Jsnet on in 2004, she gave them all gifts and asked her to come back on anytime) I think this thread was made by people posing as Janet fans who tend to subtly shade her and try to tactfully defame her name regularly on this forum. Although UK host Graham Norton and Shaggy really do hate her - but that's life, you don't get along with everyone

I have ALL of Janet's albums. I have ALL of her music videos on DVD. I have various albums on casette and records. I have posters and collectible merchadise. I EVEN have tickets to see her in concert for her Unbreakable tour. I have stan my ass for Janet NUMEROUS of times on this forum but I notice specifically when it comes to Janet here nobody can criticize. I actually was watching youtube footages of her Unbreakable tour on youtube and ran across a video of Khia who bashes her eek but I notice a similiar pattern with other artists which is why I asked the question. I love Janet as artist and I think she is a legend. Asking this question does not mean anyone is trying to bash her and I already said MADONNA started the beef and called Janet out first rolleyes

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Reply #23 posted 03/27/16 4:55pm

mjscarousal

mancabdriver said:

What kind of bollocks thread is this? Boy George and Madonna are the two biggest bitches in the industry - why would anyone take their side of the story as the truth? Sandy / Pepa mentioned in her biography or some article that she used to hang out with Janet in the 90s so they couldn't have been too unimpressed with her. Paula to this day posts throwback pics of her and Janet on Twitter with kind and nostalgic captions. She even allowed one of her groups to perform RN on the x-factor. Although I think she was a little pissed about her impression of her on SNL (btw the Snl cast loved having Jsnet on in 2004, she gave them all gifts and asked her to come back on anytime) I think this thread was made by people posing as Janet fans who tend to subtly shade her and try to tactfully defame her name regularly on this forum. Although UK host Graham Norton and Shaggy really do hate her - but that's life, you don't get along with everyone

And I am sorry you are wrong about Paula, she has shaded Janet over the years and Janet herself has shaded Paula too.

Paula said she "taught Janet how to dance" and Janet responded with saying that was not true. In a recent tweet, Paula posted a photo of her and Katherine and thanked her for giving birth to the greatest artist of all time, MJ and didnt mention Janet at all.

L.A reid hs shaded her too. To be fair, LA is an asshole.

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Reply #24 posted 03/27/16 5:00pm

mancabdriver

SoulAlive said:



mancabdriver said:


SoulAlive said:

rolleyes OK,then you tell us....what did Madonna do to make Janet diss her? Was Janet pissed because Madonna was hanging out with Michael around that time? Please inform us.





I don't bloody know, no one does - but Madonna is the only artist Janet has ever dissed. Whilst the list is endless with Madge ( usually someone who is hotter than her or outselling her at the time) So there must have been a good reason. Perhaps the way she treated her brother could be an answer??


The way she treated her brother?! What did she do that was so terrible? When I see pics of them together,it looked like they were having alot of fun.He was always smiling and seemed to enjoy her company.



Don't play dumb - you're a Madonna stan. You know there was friction between the two. There are tapes of MJ dissing her, calling her evil and jealous of his success.

You know Madonna called him weird and questioned his sexuality, appearance ( wanting him to get a decent haircut, like we all did). When they went out on their 'dates'

You know the story about Madonna wanting MJ to dress up as a woman for the 'in the closet' video - which was not an artistic interpretation of the song, but just to mock him.
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Reply #25 posted 03/27/16 5:18pm

mancabdriver

mjscarousal said:



mancabdriver said:


What kind of bollocks thread is this? Boy George and Madonna are the two biggest bitches in the industry - why would anyone take their side of the story as the truth? Sandy / Pepa mentioned in her biography or some article that she used to hang out with Janet in the 90s so they couldn't have been too unimpressed with her. Paula to this day posts throwback pics of her and Janet on Twitter with kind and nostalgic captions. She even allowed one of her groups to perform RN on the x-factor. Although I think she was a little pissed about her impression of her on SNL (btw the Snl cast loved having Jsnet on in 2004, she gave them all gifts and asked her to come back on anytime) I think this thread was made by people posing as Janet fans who tend to subtly shade her and try to tactfully defame her name regularly on this forum. Although UK host Graham Norton and Shaggy really do hate her - but that's life, you don't get along with everyone


And I am sorry you are wrong about Paula, she has shaded Janet over the years and Janet herself has shaded Paula too.



Paula said she "taught Janet how to dance" and Janet responded with saying that was not true. In a recent tweet, Paula posted a photo of her and Katherine and thanked her for giving birth to the greatest artist of all time, MJ and didnt mention Janet at all.



L.A reid hs shaded her too. To be fair, LA is an asshole.



For gods sake - Michael and Janet don't have to be mentioned in every freaking post/ tweet/ sentence. If Paula has the misinformed opinion that MJ is the greatest artist to have ever existed - why can't she praise him solely without mentioning his sister?

People read too much into things. If Paula hated Janet she wouldn't waste her efforts posting pics of them together on Twitter. End of!!!
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Reply #26 posted 03/27/16 5:19pm

SoulAlive

mancabdriver said:

You know the story about Madonna wanting MJ to dress up as a woman for the 'in the closet' video - which was not an artistic interpretation of the song, but just to mock him.

Oh please biggrin Madonna was outrageous in those days! Her idea for the "In The Closet" video reflects the type of person she was....bold,wild,and anxious to make a statement.She wasn't trying to "mock" Michael! I personally think her idea was much more interesting than the actual video that MJ made.

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Reply #27 posted 03/27/16 5:26pm

mancabdriver

SoulAlive said:



mancabdriver said:


You know the story about Madonna wanting MJ to dress up as a woman for the 'in the closet' video - which was not an artistic interpretation of the song, but just to mock him.


Oh please biggrin Madonna was outrageous in those days! Her idea for the "In The Closet" video reflects the type of person she was....bold,wild,and anxious to make a statement.She wasn't trying to "mock" Michael! I personally think her idea was much more interesting than the actual video that MJ made.



You obviously know her better than me and what was going through her devilish mind way back in 1990

Next time you have a chin wag with her can you ask her to perform 'the look of love' on her next tour? I love that song.
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Reply #28 posted 03/27/16 5:29pm

SoulAlive

mancabdriver said:


Don't play dumb - you're a Madonna stan. You know there was friction between the two. There are tapes of MJ dissing her, calling her evil and jealous of his success. You know Madonna called him weird and questioned his sexuality, appearance ( wanting him to get a decent haircut, like we all did). When they went out on their 'dates'

Millions of people have questioned Michael's sexuality and criticized his appearance/surgeries.Does Janet hate all of those people,too? lol..it's childish of her to act like she's "sticking up" for her brother by criticizing Madonna.

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Reply #29 posted 03/27/16 5:40pm

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I think she's reserved and has a monotone and I can see how that comes off as arrogant or stand offish. Maybe she's just that guarded but I've also heard things from fans who aren't fans anymore. I didn't know paula dissed or ignored her, ouch. I wonder if it has to do with the Tina Landon situation, they were friends right Maybe she's not liked for calling her own shots often if it's true, and people feel threatened by a strong person [Edited 3/27/16 14:15pm] [Edited 3/27/16 14:15pm]

What did you hear from fans?

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