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Reply #30 posted 03/21/16 8:12am

duccichucka

brick

Don't be ridiculous; if you can actually stomach such a thing. Where were you in 2003 when
I was in this same forum arguing that Led Zeppelin were crooks who profitted off of unsung
Black musicians? As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Look, it is my contention that Justin Timberlake gets hated on by nitwits in this forum because
he refers to the Michael Jackson template often for his recording arts career; and he's adored
by the media, who many prop him up as the MJ successor. This bothers some of y'all, and rightly
so. Why is this rightly so? Well, because the media (i.e., white people) have a history of deni-
grating Black American art forms but as soon as a white person incorporates these very same
forms, they act like said white performer is some type of new-fangled genius (see, Presley, El-
vis Aaron, for example). But this has nothing to do with Timberlake; you can't hate him for liking
Michael Jackson and using him as a template. If you're going to be butt-hurt, take it out on the
media!

Justin Timberlake is not a culture vulture for liking Black American music/art forms. Y'all don't
like him because he's a white boy doing "Black" music and he gets treated in the press like he's
the greatest thing in music since sliced bread.

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Reply #31 posted 03/21/16 8:16am

duccichucka

duccichucka said:

brick

Don't be ridiculous; if you can actually stomach such a thing. Where were you in 2003 when
I was in this same forum arguing that Led Zeppelin were crooks who profitted off of unsung
Black musicians? As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Look, it is my contention that Justin Timberlake gets hated on by nitwits in this forum because
he refers to the Michael Jackson template often for his recording arts career; and he's adored
by the media, who many prop him up as the MJ successor. This bothers some of y'all, and rightly
so. Why is this rightly so? Well, because the media (i.e., white people) have a history of deni-
grating Black American art forms but as soon as a white person incorporates these very same
forms, they act like said white performer is some type of new-fangled genius (see, Presley, El-
vis Aaron, for example). But this has nothing to do with Timberlake; you can't hate him for liking
Michael Jackson and using him as a template. If you're going to be butt-hurt, take it out on the
media!

Justin Timberlake is not a culture vulture for liking Black American music/art forms. Y'all don't
like him because he's a white boy doing "Black" music and he gets treated in the press like he's
the greatest thing in music since sliced bread.


(The above is in response to Dayze's most recent reply to me)

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Reply #32 posted 03/21/16 9:21am

KCOOLMUZIQ

duccichucka said:

brick

Don't be ridiculous; if you can actually stomach such a thing. Where were you in 2003 when
I was in this same forum arguing that Led Zeppelin were crooks who profitted off of unsung
Black musicians? As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Look, it is my contention that Justin Timberlake gets hated on by nitwits in this forum because
he refers to the Michael Jackson template often for his recording arts career; and he's adored
by the media, who many prop him up as the MJ successor. This bothers some of y'all, and rightly
so. Why is this rightly so? Well, because the media (i.e., white people) have a history of deni-
grating Black American art forms but as soon as a white person incorporates these very same
forms, they act like said white performer is some type of new-fangled genius (see, Presley, El-
vis Aaron, for example). But this has nothing to do with Timberlake; you can't hate him for liking
Michael Jackson and using him as a template. If you're going to be butt-hurt, take it out on the
media!

Justin Timberlake is not a culture vulture for liking Black American music/art forms. Y'all don't
like him because he's a white boy doing "Black" music and he gets treated in the press like he's
the greatest thing in music since sliced bread.

Justin emulates prince also & used many of his ex bandmenbers live...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #33 posted 03/21/16 10:11am

RJOrion

mjscarousal said:



MotownSubdivision said:


mjscarousal said:

^ He is... but nobody will ever call him out for it BUT they bashed IGGY though.



JT is the original culture vulture and has made an ENTIRE career off of it. The modern day Elvis.



Iggy's no better though. JT doesn't receive enough criticism but Iggy got what was coming to her.

Absolutely agree. I should have written that better. I meant to say that if IGGY can get trashed for her culture vulture why doesn't JT? He gets a pass with EVERYTHING. He is similiar to Beyonce in that respect. I don't think he has every been harshly criticized for anything.



because Timberlake is a man...historically speaking, white women "acting black", are more offensive than a white man who "acts black", to those who take such things into consideration...
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Reply #34 posted 03/21/16 10:39am

duccichucka

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

duccichucka said:

brick

Don't be ridiculous; if you can actually stomach such a thing. Where were you in 2003 when
I was in this same forum arguing that Led Zeppelin were crooks who profitted off of unsung
Black musicians? As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Look, it is my contention that Justin Timberlake gets hated on by nitwits in this forum because
he refers to the Michael Jackson template often for his recording arts career; and he's adored
by the media, who many prop him up as the MJ successor. This bothers some of y'all, and rightly
so. Why is this rightly so? Well, because the media (i.e., white people) have a history of deni-
grating Black American art forms but as soon as a white person incorporates these very same
forms, they act like said white performer is some type of new-fangled genius (see, Presley, El-
vis Aaron, for example). But this has nothing to do with Timberlake; you can't hate him for liking
Michael Jackson and using him as a template. If you're going to be butt-hurt, take it out on the
media!

Justin Timberlake is not a culture vulture for liking Black American music/art forms. Y'all don't
like him because he's a white boy doing "Black" music and he gets treated in the press like he's
the greatest thing in music since sliced bread.

Justin emulates prince also & used many of his ex bandmenbers live...


I would argue that he doesn't but it certainly is possible that I'm missing a Prince component
in Timberlake's body of work.

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Reply #35 posted 03/21/16 10:40am

duccichucka

RJOrion said:

mjscarousal said:

Absolutely agree. I should have written that better. I meant to say that if IGGY can get trashed for her culture vulture why doesn't JT? He gets a pass with EVERYTHING. He is similiar to Beyonce in that respect. I don't think he has every been harshly criticized for anything.

because Timberlake is a man...historically speaking, white women "acting black", are more offensive than a white man who "acts black", to those who take such things into consideration...


Interesting.

hmmm

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Reply #36 posted 03/21/16 12:24pm

mjscarousal

RJOrion said:

mjscarousal said:

Absolutely agree. I should have written that better. I meant to say that if IGGY can get trashed for her culture vulture why doesn't JT? He gets a pass with EVERYTHING. He is similiar to Beyonce in that respect. I don't think he has every been harshly criticized for anything.

because Timberlake is a WHITE man...historically speaking, white women "acting black", are more offensive than a white man who "acts black", to those who take such things into consideration...

Correction biggrin

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Reply #37 posted 03/21/16 1:05pm

JoeBala

mjscarousal said:

^ He is... but nobody will ever call him out for it BUT they bashed IGGY though.

JT is the original culture vulture and has made an ENTIRE career off of it. The modern day MJ.

There fixed it for ya. smile

Just Music-No Categories-Enjoy It!
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Reply #38 posted 03/21/16 1:08pm

duccichucka

mjscarousal said:

RJOrion said:

mjscarousal said: because Timberlake is a WHITE man...historically speaking, white women "acting black", are more offensive than a white man who "acts black", to those who take such things into consideration...

Correction biggrin


Regardless of whether or not your post is an attempt at irony, the fact remains that a portion of
Justin Timberlake's success and praise could be attributed to the color of his skin. Yet, this is not
something Timberlake himself should be blamed for. I don't think JT "acts black." But clearly he's
a fan of Black musicianship as, if I'm not mistaken, his band is composed mostly of Blacks. Again,
this is not something to castigate him for! He's a fan of Black American art forms, but it still doesnt
make him a "culture vulture" and it is a dumb ass reason to dislike him because of how he is per-
ceived by white journalists who are going to ride for their own. You old jazz heads will remember
one Gerry Mulligan; and you young thundercats who think you know everything will definitely re-
member Macklemore and Ryan Lewis.

If the negative feelings for JT arise from his championing in the press by white media members,
then your beef is not with him - he's doing him and him love him some MJ - your beef is with the
media.

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Reply #39 posted 03/21/16 1:24pm

SoulAlive

It'll sound just like all the other songs they collaborated on confused I like Pharrell but he only has so many tricks up his sleeve
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Reply #40 posted 03/21/16 2:28pm

Cinny

avatar

SoulAlive said:

It'll sound just like all the other songs they collaborated on confused I like Pharrell but he only has so many tricks up his sleeve

It will sound like Pharrell's GIRL album.

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Reply #41 posted 03/21/16 4:47pm

MotownSubdivis
ion

Cinny said:



SoulAlive said:


It'll sound just like all the other songs they collaborated on confused I like Pharrell but he only has so many tricks up his sleeve

It will sound like Pharrell's GIRL album.

So it'll be above average at best?
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Reply #42 posted 03/21/16 7:44pm

paisleypark4

avatar

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Cinny said:

Pharrell tried to strongarm Jive to get Clipse released by saying he would not work on new Justin Timberlake until that happened.

Now that it is all water under the bridge, and Timbaland looks like he's on to new things, the timing seems right for this collaboration. I don't think Justin has worked with Pharrell since Justified?

He worked on Pharrell's last album "Girl". But still that could have also been in Pharrell's vault already done & he just added it on his album. Again I'm glad they're back together.

"Brand New" was one of the best songs on the album. A romping good tune with Off The WAll influences.

Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #43 posted 03/21/16 7:59pm

mjscarousal

JoeBala said:

mjscarousal said:

^ He is... but nobody will ever call him out for it BUT they bashed IGGY though.

JT is the original culture vulture and has made an ENTIRE career off of it. The modern day MJ.

There fixed it for ya. smile

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Reply #44 posted 03/21/16 8:01pm

mjscarousal

SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

Well I just thought I brought it to your attention since you like addressing people like they are a garden tool. rolleyes Sit down and Get over yourself and that is all I am going to say to you. You have shown me on more than one occasion you lack the capacity to disagree respectfully and maturely so this is my last message to you, have a good day asshole. thumbs up!

Notice how quick he was to be rude and bring up race in this discussion when no one else mentioned it first.....amazing how people on the Org (and beyond) get up in arms about the Beatles and Justin Timberlake but don't have that same passion for the very artists that laid the foundation of the sound that those artists imitated.....there's nothing new under the sun huh? smile

Oh yea he gets like this in these JT discussions. He is a JT stan. lol Pay it no mind.

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Reply #45 posted 03/21/16 8:05pm

mjscarousal

Seeing JT aka culture vulture aka modern Elvis aka "the Great white hope" in the same sentence with legendary MJ is the funniest thing I've read ALL day. razz

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Reply #46 posted 03/21/16 9:47pm

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Notice how quick he was to be rude and bring up race in this discussion when no one else mentioned it first.....amazing how people on the Org (and beyond) get up in arms about the Beatles and Justin Timberlake but don't have that same passion for the very artists that laid the foundation of the sound that those artists imitated.....there's nothing new under the sun huh? smile

Oh yea he gets like this in these JT discussions. He is a JT stan. lol Pay it no mind.

Yeah, l don't think he'll be over in the Little Richard thread fuming and going crazy like he's doing in this thread about TimberFake. Oh well. I guess we have to ignore the originators and praise the imitators that have been ripping off MJ for their ENTIRE CAREER and haven't contributed anything unique in their own right for, you know, two decades!!

Trolls be gone!
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Reply #47 posted 03/21/16 9:48pm

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:

Seeing JT aka culture vulture aka modern Elvis aka "the Great white hope" in the same sentence with legendary MJ is the funniest thing I've read ALL day. razz

Hush yo' mouth! We outta be grateful to God Almighty to be on the Earth at the same time as TimberFake smile

Trolls be gone!
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Reply #48 posted 03/21/16 10:05pm

mjscarousal

SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

Oh yea he gets like this in these JT discussions. He is a JT stan. lol Pay it no mind.

Yeah, l don't think he'll be over in the Little Richard thread fuming and going crazy like he's doing in this thread about TimberFake. Oh well. I guess we have to ignore the originators and praise the imitators that have been ripping off MJ for their ENTIRE CAREER and haven't contributed anything unique in their own right for, you know, two decades!!

I will never forget that time, that postered implied JT was similiar to the great Sammy Davis Jr, and eek eek eek Chile, it ain't worth it with that JT stan disbelief Lost cause, let it go lol

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Reply #49 posted 03/22/16 5:48am

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:



SeventeenDayze said:




mjscarousal said:




Oh yea he gets like this in these JT discussions. He is a JT stan. lol Pay it no mind.



Yeah, l don't think he'll be over in the Little Richard thread fuming and going crazy like he's doing in this thread about TimberFake. Oh well. I guess we have to ignore the originators and praise the imitators that have been ripping off MJ for their ENTIRE CAREER and haven't contributed anything unique in their own right for, you know, two decades!!



I will never forget that time, that postered implied JT was similiar to the great Sammy Davis Jr, and eek eek eek Chile, it ain't worth it with that JT stan disbelief Lost cause, let it go lol


Omg. Next time I go to happy hour I'll look for that thread you mentioned and will enjoy the laugh!! Bottoms up!smile
Trolls be gone!
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Reply #50 posted 03/22/16 6:20am

duccichucka

YES!

Once again, I was able to covertly infiltrate another thread where the two biggest loudmouths in
Music:Non-Prince, that'll be MJCarousal (Dolt 1) and SeventeenDayze (Dolt 2), two girls (neither
can be over 25, I'm sure of it) who act like their opinions are on par with the Pentateuch, were
unable to articulate a reason for said opinion when pressed intellectually and then devolved into
trolling after accusing me of being one!

I will never get enough of administering an open and public intellectual beat down to you too
dimwits, and then watching you resort to your regular routine/song and dance of trying to save
face by trolling and playing the "oh, chile, honey lawd a'murcy" bit.

See ya around, girls! Heheheheheh!

wink

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Reply #51 posted 03/22/16 12:03pm

Musicslave

duccichucka said:

Musicslave said:

Is it me or does it seems that Justin is a fairweather type of artist. In other words, whichever producer between Timbo and Pharrell has the hot streak at the time or in recent history, he'll work with that producer. I am not the least bit surprised that he's going back to Pharrell after his recent successes he had between himself ("Happy") and Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines", and not to mention Daft Punk's "Get Lucky" and their Album of the Year, "Random Access Memory".

-


This is such fucking bullshit:

Michael Jackson was the very same way! Dangerous is MJ's desire to do new jack swing, so who
does he work with? The architect of new jack swing: Teddy Riley. Invincible is MJ's desire to do
post new jack swing R&B music, so who does he work with? The architect of post new jack swing
R&B music: Rodney Jerkins.

Timberlake is in the business of selling records. So, you're going to cast aspersions because his
plan to do so includes working with hot producers who help sell records? It's like you nitwits
want Justin Timberlake's white ass to do country-western and stop being influenced by Michael
Jackson and not to work with popular black pop producers. You know what y'all sound like?

Racists.

-

Were you implying that I'm racist because I stated my opinion of what appears to be just another case of trend chasing by a music act? I'm only asking since your original accusation or opinion was a direct response to my post.

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Reply #52 posted 03/22/16 12:32pm

Cinny

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It is Justin Timberlake's white privilege that gets his music played on R&B and Pop stations.

However, I am the same age as Justin Timberlake, and grew up in the same era when R&B went pop, the time when black stars were prominent on MTV, and "Rapper's Delight" is older than both of us.

To treat him as a culture vulture is silly. He was raised in the same pop culture that everyone has been in for DECADES.

Don't forget his early training as a child on Mickey Mouse club where they regularly sang R&B songs. Here's a skit with Xscape:

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Reply #53 posted 03/22/16 2:22pm

mjscarousal

SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

I will never forget that time, that postered implied JT was similiar to the great Sammy Davis Jr, and eek eek eek Chile, it ain't worth it with that JT stan disbelief Lost cause, let it go lol

Omg. Next time I go to happy hour I'll look for that thread you mentioned and will enjoy the laugh!! Bottoms up!smile

thumbs up!

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Reply #54 posted 03/22/16 2:37pm

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:



SeventeenDayze said:


mjscarousal said:


I will never forget that time, that postered implied JT was similiar to the great Sammy Davis Jr, and eek eek eek Chile, it ain't worth it with that JT stan disbelief Lost cause, let it go lol



Omg. Next time I go to happy hour I'll look for that thread you mentioned and will enjoy the laugh!! Bottoms up!smile

thumbs up!


Shamon! Lol
Trolls be gone!
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Reply #55 posted 03/22/16 2:42pm

duccichucka

Musicslave said:

duccichucka said:


This is such fucking bullshit:

Michael Jackson was the very same way! Dangerous is MJ's desire to do new jack swing, so who
does he work with? The architect of new jack swing: Teddy Riley. Invincible is MJ's desire to do
post new jack swing R&B music, so who does he work with? The architect of post new jack swing
R&B music: Rodney Jerkins.

Timberlake is in the business of selling records. So, you're going to cast aspersions because his
plan to do so includes working with hot producers who help sell records? It's like you nitwits
want Justin Timberlake's white ass to do country-western and stop being influenced by Michael
Jackson and not to work with popular black pop producers. You know what y'all sound like?

Racists.

-

Were you implying that I'm racist because I stated my opinion of what appears to be just another case of trend chasing by a music act? I'm only asking since your original accusation or opinion was a direct response to my post.


Yes; the implication in my total argument concerning how this board appears to be so vitriolic
against Justin Timberlake is because he is a white man, who largely has the support of the
white press who adores him and supports his quest to equal or momentarily replace Michael
Jackson. It is utterly ridiculous to condemn him for appearing to chase musical trends; MJ never
got this treatment from this board as he CLEARLY chased music trends! I rarely see anti-Chris
Brown threads; I rarely see anti-Usher threads. Both artists are obvious Michael Jackson inspi-
rations, and both artists chase trends. How do they manage to escape the enmity held for Justin
Timberlake? Usher's entire career is one album following one trend after another. Chris Brown
has no innovative bone in his body. But both singers are Black, so, is that why we never see the
monthly "I hate Chris Brown/Usher" thread? Black singers are allowed to be explicitly influenced
by Michael Jackson. But the one recording artist you're going to attack, for reasons I've already

explained are silly, is the southern white boy similarly stuck on MJ?

Like I said: it appears to be racist. And in this regard, the skin color of the hater has no regard.
Musicslave, I don't know you well, but the hate that some posters have towards Justin Timber-
lake in the Org is certainly strange and leaves one wondering where it is sourced from. I have
no particular interest in JT other than some of his cuts are pretty dope. I just can't stand dumb
people who make dumb claims and then can't back up any of their dumbness. And as you can see,
by recent posts, there are some dumbass people in this forum who will go to great lengths to save
face by appearing to actually enjoy being a dumbass.


duh

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Reply #56 posted 03/22/16 2:50pm

duccichucka

Cinny said:

It is Justin Timberlake's white privilege that gets his music played on R&B and Pop stations.

However, I am the same age as Justin Timberlake, and grew up in the same era when R&B went pop, the time when black stars were prominent on MTV, and "Rapper's Delight" is older than both of us.

To treat him as a culture vulture is silly. He was raised in the same pop culture that everyone has been in for DECADES.

Don't forget his early training as a child on Mickey Mouse club where they regularly sang R&B songs. Here's a skit with Xscape:


I absolutely agree with you. There is a difference between the affect that Iggy Azalea adopts
that makes her accusations of being a culture vulture more applicable in ways that the charges
JT faces in this thread by some completely untenable.

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Reply #57 posted 03/23/16 12:30am

mjscarousal

Cinny said:

It is Justin Timberlake's white privilege that gets his music played on R&B and Pop stations.

However, I am the same age as Justin Timberlake, and grew up in the same era when R&B went pop, the time when black stars were prominent on MTV, and "Rapper's Delight" is older than both of us.

To treat him as a culture vulture is silly. He was raised in the same pop culture that everyone has been in for DECADES.

Don't forget his early training as a child on Mickey Mouse club where they regularly sang R&B songs. Here's a skit with Xscape:

How is he not when he has made an entire career off of ripping of black music? He gets 10 times the success of an R&B singer that makes better R&B music. He is a culture vulture.

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Reply #58 posted 03/23/16 7:33am

214

This seems like a race competition thread.

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Reply #59 posted 03/23/16 8:20am

KCOOLMUZIQ

duccichucka said:

Cinny said:

It is Justin Timberlake's white privilege that gets his music played on R&B and Pop stations.

However, I am the same age as Justin Timberlake, and grew up in the same era when R&B went pop, the time when black stars were prominent on MTV, and "Rapper's Delight" is older than both of us.

To treat him as a culture vulture is silly. He was raised in the same pop culture that everyone has been in for DECADES.

Don't forget his early training as a child on Mickey Mouse club where they regularly sang R&B songs. Here's a skit with Xscape:


I absolutely agree with you. There is a difference between the affect that Iggy Azalea adopts
that makes her accusations of being a culture vulture more applicable in ways that the charges
JT faces in this thread by some completely untenable.

Thank you for posting this video! Justin was always gifted. To escape the pressures of being a child star & growing into a very successful adult. Is one of the many things he had in common with his idol MJ.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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