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Reply #60 posted 12/23/15 5:58pm

Adorecream

Watched it, sounds like a load of bull to me. Of course TMZ is hardly a reputable source, they have banned any reports of it on MJJ community in the light of the bullshit, they have spun about Michael Jackson when he was alive and dead. They started the rumour MJ's ghost impregnated a white women while she watching a MJ music video and caused her to have a black baby, when she was white and in fact had been cheating on her husband with a brother.

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I have barely heard of Kendrick Lamar, but have read his album to Pimp a Butterfly is a big hit and it seems his music is a bit better than the hoes and shiny suits phase of rap, although with that title, it sounds pretty ghetto to me.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #61 posted 12/23/15 6:59pm

SeventeenDayze

Adorecream said:

Watched it, sounds like a load of bull to me. Of course TMZ is hardly a reputable source, they have banned any reports of it on MJJ community in the light of the bullshit, they have spun about Michael Jackson when he was alive and dead. They started the rumour MJ's ghost impregnated a white women while she watching a MJ music video and caused her to have a black baby, when she was white and in fact had been cheating on her husband with a brother.

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I have barely heard of Kendrick Lamar, but have read his album to Pimp a Butterfly is a big hit and it seems his music is a bit better than the hoes and shiny suits phase of rap, although with that title, it sounds pretty ghetto to me.

Well another site posted the court documents so the lawsuit is legit in that sense. Scroll to the end of this story to see the lawsuit:

http://www.dallasobserver.com/music/dallas-fan-sues-kendrick-lamars-manager-for-1-million-7841803

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Reply #62 posted 12/25/15 8:11pm

jackson35

Adorecream said:

Jeffrey was always wasted and always shafting the JHE of their expenses, part of the reason Jimi left the Experience in early 1969, wa sthat he was never being paid on time.

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Besides the ones named, there are others.

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Berry Gordy, I have to say it, but Motown paid ridiuclously low royalties like half a cent per single and about 5 cents per album in the 1960s, and that was divided amongst group members for most acts. Plus Gordy insisted his artists do Artist development classes and forced into long dance lessons with Cholly Atkins for no extra, all the expenses of recording and touring were paid by artists at inflated rates. He kept a backing group (Funk Brothers) and female singers (The Andantes) in the background and never paid them above scale.

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The Jacksons were a good example, each Jackson got 0.8 of a cent fro each single sold and about 7 cents an album, even with their first 4 singles selling nearly 10 million copies, each Jackson sibling saw maybe $75k each in 1970, plus most of this money was taken off for taxes, advances, recording costs for dozens of songs never released (Yet released in cheap compilation albums after they had left Motown) and also touring expenses (Air travel and hotels). Hayven hurst was still on a mortgage until Michael bought it in 1982 with money from Epic and Sales of Off the Wall. The Temptations mentioned that they never got more than a few dollars spending cash in the early days and if anyone wanted a TV or a car, they had to get the price quoted and if they had earned the royalties or Gordy thought they would, a cheque would be waiting for the exact amount.

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Nearly every artist who left Motown or got dropped complained about money owing to them and if it went to court, often it went in Motown's favour given their legal staff and lawyers who were mostly white and Jewish rather than African American. Gordy became an insanely rich man thanks to the money machine Motown became, living in mansions and splendours, most of his artists except maybe Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye (Who got good contracts after threatening to leave in the early 1970s) and Diana Ross who was bonking him, could barely afford an average house in Downtown or Suburban Detroit and many like Paul Williams and Florence Ballard died in poverty.

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Of course it was not all Gordy's and Motown's fault, they would not have been stars with his help and it is unlikely the 4Tops, Supremes, Temptations and others would have been discovered or become a success without the Motown machine, and many were getting into drink and drugs later on. Still Gordy did much better out of each deal than the artist.

you do know these are lies right?

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