Check out the mic work. Than the spin to split.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Check out the mic work. Than the spin to split.

That's y it's called that damn Joe Tex

We need a Joe Tex book or documentary. His story needs to be told. He's easily the most forgotten of the 60s-early 70s Soul giants.

He was the second best selling Soul artist behind on James Brown in the decade of the 60s.

He had bigger hits than the likes of Same & Dave and Solomon Burke. He was bigger than Otis Redding at his peak.

He was writing all of his music, something most of the R&B acts of that time (save a few) were doing.

He was one of the few to have his own self contained band. Some like like Jackie Wilson and even Sam Cooke would use the house musicians at a certain venue. The MotorTown review of 1966 was backed by Joe Tex' band, I believe.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

We need a Joe Tex book or documentary. His story needs to be told. He's easily the most forgotten of the 60s-early 70s Soul giants.

He was the second best selling Soul artist behind on James Brown in the decade of the 60s.

He had bigger hits than the likes of Same & Dave and Solomon Burke. He was bigger than Otis Redding at his peak.

He was writing all of his music, something most of the R&B acts of that time (save a few) were doing.

He was one of the few to have his own self contained band. Some like like Jackie Wilson and even Sam Cooke would use the house musicians at a certain venue. The MotorTown review of 1966 was backed by Joe Tex' band, I believe.

agree

an unsung wouldn't be enough, but i'll take it

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Some like like Jackie Wilson and even Sam Cooke would use the house musicians at a certain venue.

That's because it was cheaper to do this, than traveling with a bunch of guys, or renting/buying a bus. These acts generally didn't make much money on the chitlin circuit and were often ripped off by promoters and/or their record label.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

We need a Joe Tex book or documentary.

I'd like one for Johnnie Taylor. He's fairly popular in some circles to this day, and he's had way more hits than Percy Sledge, who's mainly known for one song but is in the rock hall. JT has around 10 or 11 top 40 pop hits, more than Percy.

MickyDolenz said:

Guys like Wilson and Cooke (especially Cooke) made more than the norm on the Chitlin circuit like a Dee Clark or Marv Johnson.

MickyDolenz said:

Taylor got the benefit of that 80s resurgence at Malaco Records. Joe was gone before that whole thing began.

I think Joe was have worked out wellon Malaco un the 80s and the new hip-hop scene that was emerging.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Guys like Wilson and Cooke (especially Cooke) made more than the norm on the Chitlin circuit like a Dee Clark or Marv Johnson.

They still made more money for themselves by hiring the local band, just like Chuck Berry still does today. Less expenses. B.B. King carried his own band around on his own bus during the 1960s and was often broke.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Taylor got the benefit of that 80s resurgence at Malaco Records. Joe was gone before that whole thing began. I think Joe was have worked out wellon Malaco un the 80s and the new hip-hop scene that was emerging.

Malaco was mostly known in the south. And Johnnie didn't like that Malaco was considered blues, so was stocked in the blues section in record stores (if they had one). Other types of stores that sold records might not stock blues at all and it didn't get R&B radio arirplay. JT didn't consider himself a blues singer although he has recorded blues.

MickyDolenz said:

This is true, but you're gonna get a better sound from someone with a band. I'll give an example.

I have 2 albums recorded at the legendary Chicago Regal Theater, in a 12 months span. BB King Live at the Regal 1964 and Gene Chandler Live at the Regal 1965. The band is night and day. King has his band and Chandler is backed up by the Regal house band.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

This is true, but you're gonna get a better sound from someone with a band.

That might be so, but some of the people in the juke joints didn't really care about the band, they were going to drink. Back then people would go to see imitation singers & groups because the audiences often didn't know what the performer looked like. But I guess that was more on the pop & rock n roll music side in which teens were more likely to be the audience at sock hops.

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Taylor got the benefit of that 80s resurgence at Malaco Records. Joe was gone before that whole thing began. I think Joe was have worked out wellon Malaco un the 80s and the new hip-hop scene that was emerging.

Malaco was mostly known in the south. And Johnnie didn't like that Malaco was considered blues, so was stocked in the blues section in record stores (if they had one). Other types of stores that sold records might not stock blues at all and it didn't get R&B radio arirplay. JT didn't consider himself a blues singer although he has recorded blues.

Other old times were making somewhat returns in the early-mid 80a also. Gene Chandler and Jerry Butler were making records just not on Malaco. Not as bluesy, more dance oriented.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Other old times were making somewhat returns in the early-mid 80a also. Gene Chandler and Jerry Butler were making records just not on Malaco. Not as bluesy, more dance oriented.

I remember some veteran acts were on a label called Ichiban. But they also had new acts.