Interesting article on Beyonce doing a rainbow dance for LGBT Supreme Court ruling.

There was never any proof that Beyonce was a homophobe, but I heard it a lot ten years ago. At the most, I believe she wasn't gay friendly until it became okay to be so. What do you guys think?

Pretty much everybody used to be a homophobe.

bobzilla77 said:

Pretty much everybody used to be a homophobe.

Even a lot of gays start homophobic, then realize they are projecting. It doesn't help that most churches still teach hatred. Homophobia is engrained in the culture.

Oh please, a lot of them are not supporting it now, they're just playing the "politically correct" game, what else do you expect them to do, they don't want to lose their money or fame.

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1contessa said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Almost every celebrity wasn't in support of the LGBT community until it was OK to do so a few years ago. I won't say they were necessarily homopobic but they weren't avid supporters of homosexuality until Obama endorsed same-sex marriage.

Madonna's supported LGBT since the 80s when it was 'unpopular' to do so.

"I heard, no proof"....That's where the accusation ends...Accusing B-girl of being a Homophobe just because it's something to do...Shame......I heard there's a Man in the Moon but I have no proof...

rlittler81 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Almost every celebrity wasn't in support of the LGBT community until it was OK to do so a few years ago. I won't say they were necessarily homopobic but they weren't avid supporters of homosexuality until Obama endorsed same-sex marriage.

Madonna's supported LGBT since the 80s when it was 'unpopular' to do so.

Yes she does sincerely, how much i hate the ppolitically correct ways so in current today

Beyonce is one of the most fakest pop stars in the industry. Anything she does is strictly to enhance her brand.

Pretty much anyone that is a practicing Christian is a homophobe by default to me....until they state, or more importantly, actively show they are not.

Ya'll know I'm the LAST person to support Beyonce but I don't believe this one. She's too smart of a business woman. Why would she risk losing half of her fanbase? Gay men worship her.

rlittler81 said:

JustErin said:

MotownSubdivision said:

JustErin said:

Pretty much anyone that is a practicing Christian is a homophobe by default to me....until they state, or more importantly, actively show they are not.

And how are we supposed to prove our worth to you?

Who said you had to? I certainly didn't.

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JustErin said:

MotownSubdivision said:

JustErin said:

Who said you had to? I certainly didn't.

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No but I'm curious, exactly what does that consist of if one were to go about doing so?

It would consist of whatever one decides to say or do.

If one decides to stay silent or inactive, so be it...but as I said, I'll continue to believe that they align themselves with all the teachings in the bible - including the passages that many use to excuse or justify their bigotry.

Back in her DC days, she was quoted as saying she couldn't condone homosexuality as a Christian. I remember it because she was on my Gross List. Fast foward to a few years back, and she's saying it's a dream of hers to be a gay icon. Call it enlightenment? Hell, even Obama wasn't always completely pro-gay. At least on record. And now look.

JustErin said:

Pretty much anyone that is a practicing Christian is a homophobe by default to me....until they state, or more importantly, actively show they are not.

I know what you're saying BUT 27 years ago, Canada's largest Christian Protestant church, United Church, officially welcomed equal marriage. So, don't write 'em all off!

Cinny said:

JustErin said:

Pretty much anyone that is a practicing Christian is a homophobe by default to me....until they state, or more importantly, actively show they are not.

I know what you're saying BUT 27 years ago, Canada's largest Christian Protestant church, United Church, officially welcomed equal marriage. So, don't write 'em all off!

I haven't. Good people will always be around, regardless of their religious indoctrination...or not.

Today's society has become way too sensitive.

I know some of the artists whose songs I like are rbigoted and/or their political views don't align with mine but if I like a song or an an artist's work, I tend to leave it at just that. I would take financial advice from Donald Trump, knowing that he has failed and came back from it and failed again and came back from it but I wouldn't listen to a damn thing he has to say about people or culture or politics for that matter. This whole idea of picking apart people and singling out one thing that is different and using it as a basis for vitriol has become rampant in society. I'm sick of people using it as a control tactic and I'm sick of it in general.

Nobody should care about airhead Beyoncé's political stances, religious stances or her views on sexual identity. She is not an expert or authority on any of those things. She's just a damn performer. Is she good at her job? Do you like her songs? That's about where it should end, IMO.

BlaqueKnight said:

Today's society has become way too sensitive.

I know some of the artists whose songs I like are rbigoted and/or their political views don't align with mine but if I like a song or an an artist's work, I tend to leave it at just that. I would take financial advice from Donald Trump, knowing that he has failed and came back from it and failed again and came back from it but I wouldn't listen to a damn thing he has to say about people or culture or politics for that matter. This whole idea of picking apart people and singling out one thing that is different and using it as a basis for vitriol has become rampant in society. I'm sick of people using it as a control tactic and I'm sick of it in general.

Nobody should care about airhead Beyoncé's political stances, religious stances or her views on sexual identity. She is not an expert or authority on any of those things. She's just a damn performer. Is she good at her job? Do you like her songs? That's about where it should end, IMO.

This is close to how I feel. Unless they're on a crusade against my personal beliefs, what he or she thinks is pretty much inconsequential. You can still disagree on some things, agree on other things, and still be friends, do business or even lend help compassionately.

Cinny said:

This is close to how I feel. Unless they're on a crusade against my personal beliefs, what he or she thinks is pretty much inconsequential. You can still disagree on some things, agree on other things, and still be friends, do business or even lend help compassionately.

Yes, THIS.

Cinny said:

Unless they're on a crusade against my personal beliefs, what he or she thinks is pretty much inconsequential.

I disagree. When someone in Beyonce's position endorses a view (through their work, interviews, etc), even if not as a 'crusade', it gets a great deal of exposure. In this case, it's not about something insignificant like preferring apple or cherry pie. It's a topic that affects the lives of many many people. Her support, even in passing, could have gone a long way in helping influence people's thinking regarding LGBT rights.

getfunked said:

Cinny said:

Unless they're on a crusade against my personal beliefs, what he or she thinks is pretty much inconsequential.

I disagree. When someone in Beyonce's position endorses a view (through their work, interviews, etc), even if not as a 'crusade', it gets a great deal of exposure. In this case, it's not about something insignificant like preferring apple or cherry pie. It's a topic that affects the lives of many many people. Her support, even in passing, could have gone a long way in helping influence people's thinking regarding LGBT rights.

People shouldn't be bullied into getting on board somene's cause. Its a path they have to come to on their own. SHe doesn't owe anyone support. If you expect her to do anything other than get onstage, sing and shake her ass then you are the one who is probably a little misguided as to what her role is. She is a singer/corporate whore. All pop stars are. They sing, dance and sling products for their corporate sponsors. Just because she doesn't go on stage and stick her tongue down another chick's throat wearing a shirt that says "Grrl power" doesn't mean she hates the LGBT community.

If identity politics plays into every decision you make, then you may be a bit obsessed.

I don't need for people to look like me in order to like what they do. I just need them to not suck at what they do and give me my money's worth if I'm paying for something they are doing.

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Maybe you misunderstood my post? I didn't make any comment as to how it would affect expectations of their work, just that there -is- a consequence to their opinion. It's not an inconsequential thing for someone in Beyonce's position to broadcast anti-LGBT opinions. That's just logic.

getfunked said:

Cinny said:

Unless they're on a crusade against my personal beliefs, what he or she thinks is pretty much inconsequential.

I disagree. When someone in Beyonce's position endorses a view (through their work, interviews, etc), even if not as a 'crusade', it gets a great deal of exposure. In this case, it's not about something insignificant like preferring apple or cherry pie. It's a topic that affects the lives of many many people. Her support, even in passing, could have gone a long way in helping influence people's thinking regarding LGBT rights.

Yeah, mainly the young folks that her view is important to. I'm an adult that thinks for herself and is not swayed by any celeb. I'm not a worshiper, idolizer, or stan, in any way shape or form, and could not care less about anything Beyonce, Rihanna, Jay Z, Kanye, Kim, etc, thinks, says, or does.......now, the youngsters of today is a another story.

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mjscarousal said: