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Reply #30 posted 06/27/15 12:52pm

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Motown just teased us with the unreleased Conversation album huh. mad
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Reply #31 posted 06/27/15 1:16pm

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phunkdaddy said:

Motown just teased us with the unreleased Conversation album huh. mad

yup mad

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Reply #32 posted 07/05/15 9:23pm

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SoulAlive said:

"Jealousy" is a highlight of their debut album.It has an undeniably 'pop appeal' to it and should have been able to crossover.Great song! It was the fourth single from the album.

Great song. I still liked Boys and Candy Man better but that guitar riff at the end of Jealousy. Wish it was about a minute longer. What a rush!

yeah,that guitar solo is great.The song has alot of 'pop' appeal to it.If Motown had promoted this song more effectively,it might have been a pop smash.I could see MTV getting behind this song,but there was no video.

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Reply #33 posted 07/06/15 3:54am

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Gotta love this! They proved you don't need a lot of money to make a great, memorable video.

That video has every reason why I loved the 80s so much.

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Reply #34 posted 07/06/15 6:21am

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phunkdaddy said:

daingermouz2020 said:
I think he did end up at Warner Brothers at one point.
Yep the Wonderful album

Which was anything but wonderful. lol Really bad move on his part signing with Warner at that point in his career. I know he got his last number one song off of that album but hardly anyone remembers "Lousey's Rap". Terrible song and album.

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Reply #35 posted 07/06/15 7:24pm

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kitbradley said:

phunkdaddy said:

daingermouz2020 said: Yep the Wonderful album

Which was anything but wonderful. lol Really bad move on his part signing with Warner at that point in his career. I know he got his last number one song off of that album but hardly anyone remembers "Lousey's Rap". Terrible song and album.

I agree,Wonderful is a very weak Rick James album.By that point,the drugs had ruined his creativity.He was writing lousy songs in the late 80s.The 1989 unreleased Kickin album was also disappointing.

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Reply #36 posted 07/06/15 7:28pm

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kitbradley said:

phunkdaddy said:

daingermouz2020 said: Yep the Wonderful album

Which was anything but wonderful. lol Really bad move on his part signing with Warner at that point in his career. I know he got his last number one song off of that album but hardly anyone remembers "Lousey's Rap". Terrible song and album.

You ain't never lied. lol Wonderful and I Believe In You may have been the

best songs on it. Hell I liked the Flag much better than that album.

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Reply #37 posted 07/06/15 9:23pm

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phunkdaddy said:

kitbradley said:

Which was anything but wonderful. lol Really bad move on his part signing with Warner at that point in his career. I know he got his last number one song off of that album but hardly anyone remembers "Lousey's Rap". Terrible song and album.

You ain't never lied. lol Wonderful and I Believe In You may have been the

best songs on it. Hell I liked the Flag much better than that album.

I don't like The Flag,either.That was the first Rick James album that I was totally disappointed with.Nearly every song on that album sounds like "Party All The Time",but with 'serious' lyrics.

I think the previous album,Glow,is vastly underrated.

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Reply #38 posted 07/06/15 9:58pm

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Glow is Rick's last great album during his peak no doubt

My favorite cut off The Flag is Slow And Easy, the rest of it does sound like Party All The Time biggrin

My favorite cut off Wonderful is Sexual Love Affair

My favorite cut off Kickin is School Me

I really like Urban Rhapsody, it was a good comeback album after coming home from jail

Deeper Still is his weakest album IMO, I couldn't get into none of those cuts

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Reply #39 posted 07/06/15 10:14pm

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Abdul said:

Glow is Rick's last great album during his peak no doubt

My favorite cut off The Flag is Slow And Easy, the rest of it does sound like Party All The Time biggrin

My favorite cut off Wonderful is Sexual Love Affair

My favorite cut off Kickin is School Me

I really like Urban Rhapsody, it was a good comeback album after coming home from jail

Deeper Still is his weakest album IMO, I couldn't get into none of those cuts

Slow and Easy was an underrated ballad. I like the interlude leading into

it. The Flag wasn't great but I don't think it was as bad as people make

it out to be. I like Sweet and Sexy Thang of course, Forever and A Day,

Save It For Me, and RU Experienced.

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Reply #40 posted 07/06/15 10:41pm

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I feel bad for the Mary Jane Girls.After two hit albums and several hit singles,they were caught in the middle of Rick's war with Motown and didn't get the chance to move on and continue their success confused Things got so bad in 1987 that,at one point,Maxi was working as a secretary for Motown.The ladies had no idea if,or when,they would be able to continue their careers.Rick should have done the honorable thing and "set them free"....allowing them to move on.There was some talk back then that they wanted to work with Jam and Lewis on an album and we all know that album would have been huge!

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Reply #41 posted 07/07/15 6:24am

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Yup! I think Jam & Lewis would have probably taken them over the top and made them bigger Pop stars. But, then, at the same time, do you think with that kind of collab, they would have tried to water down JoJo's vocals? She had a big voice. Maybe too big for Pop radio.

I remember when Klymaxx started hitting the Pop charts in a major way. Lorena had that big, sassy voice that got kept them in heavy rotation on the R&B side but didn't quite go over well on Pop radio. But, when Joyce Irby took over lead vocals, she had that very light, sweet voice that wasn't as overpowering and they ended up with their only Top 10 song on the Pop side. Lorena was the lead vocal on "Man Size Love", which gave them a Top 20 Pop hit but, compared to previous singles, it was a much more calmer vocal performance for her (which didn't go over very well on the R&B side).

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Reply #42 posted 07/07/15 1:26pm

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Yup! I think Jam & Lewis would have probably taken them over the top and made them bigger Pop stars. But, then, at the same time, do you think with that kind of collab, they would have tried to water down JoJo's vocals? She had a big voice. Maybe too big for Pop radio.

I remember when Klymaxx started hitting the Pop charts in a major way. Lorena had that big, sassy voice that got kept them in heavy rotation on the R&B side but didn't quite go over well on Pop radio. But, when Joyce Irby took over lead vocals, she had that very light, sweet voice that wasn't as overpowering and they ended up with their only Top 10 song on the Pop side. Lorena was the lead vocal on "Man Size Love", which gave them a Top 20 Pop hit but, compared to previous singles, it was a much more calmer vocal performance for her (which didn't go over very well on the R&B side).

hmmm interesting perspective

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Reply #43 posted 07/07/15 3:51pm

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SoulAlive said:

I feel bad for the Mary Jane Girls.After two hit albums and several hit singles,they were caught in the middle of Rick's war with Motown and didn't get the chance to move on and continue their success confused Things got so bad in 1987 that,at one point,Maxi was working as a secretary for Motown.The ladies had no idea if,or when,they would be able to continue their careers.Rick should have done the honorable thing and "set them free"....allowing them to move on.There was some talk back then that they wanted to work with Jam and Lewis on an album and we all know that album would have been huge!

It broke my heart when I kept checking the record store for that release and they told me

they cancelled it. I think they could have had more success with the release of that album

but it may have been there swan song as we know music started changing in the late 80's.

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Reply #44 posted 07/07/15 9:52pm

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phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive said:

I feel bad for the Mary Jane Girls.After two hit albums and several hit singles,they were caught in the middle of Rick's war with Motown and didn't get the chance to move on and continue their success confused Things got so bad in 1987 that,at one point,Maxi was working as a secretary for Motown.The ladies had no idea if,or when,they would be able to continue their careers.Rick should have done the honorable thing and "set them free"....allowing them to move on.There was some talk back then that they wanted to work with Jam and Lewis on an album and we all know that album would have been huge!

It broke my heart when I kept checking the record store for that release and they told me

they cancelled it. I think they could have had more success with the release of that album

but it may have been there swan song as we know music started changing in the late 80's.

I agree.It's a shame that things fell apart right when they were enjoying major success! "In My House" was a massive crossover hit.They were on their way to superstardom and then,boom! Everything stopped shrug Oh well,at least we got one song from that planned album....

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