Janet isn't going to be in inducted into the R&R HOF any time soon for a number of reasons. She's Black, female, and media conditioning.

Janet's contributions to the art are consistently downplayed in favor of her peers, namely Madonna and MJ. The media has conditioned the

Public to believe that She is "beneath" them in every way. Everything Janet has done can be attributed to MJ or Madonna, not the other way

around. When in reality, Janet has surpassed MJ and Madonna in more ways than one.

But, the media will not allow Janet to be better than Her peers because Her success as a Black woman is unprecedented.

There aren't too many Black females who can say they have similar accolades as Janet.

If you look at what Janet did, and if you look at Her peers, again, namely, MJ and Madonna, you can see how they started borrowing from Her.

The New Jack Swing, the fully choreographed video, the fully choreographed live performance just to name a few things.

Case in point, Janet had 7 top 5 hits from one album beating Bruce and MJ. Had Bruce or MJ beat Janet, it would be duly noted.

Again, media conditioning.

If you look at the articles from "Control" it was deemed as a fluke, Her success was attributed to the Jackson name.

If you read the articles from the RN1814 era, it was "Janet is trying to be Madonna".

If you read articles from the "janet." era, it was "Janet isn't as good as MJ/Madonna/Prince/etc". Again, media conditioning.

The media continues to perpetuate this subordination of Janet to Madonna and MJ.

But when you try to downplay Janet, the only artists you CAN name are MJ and Madonna. So what does that tell you?

But again, Janet's peers have all borrowed from her. The receipts do not lie.

Another case, Britney. She was told to say Madonna was her biggest inspiration when ain't shit about Britney "Madonna". It's all Janet

So you can tweet #InductJanet day in and day out, but it ain't happening unless ppl finally take their noses out of other pplz ass.

Also, with the exception of Whitney, Janet is the most important Black artist of the past 30 something years. Undoubtedly.

Another case, Janet's OBVIOUS omission from VH1's 100 greatest artists list a few years back. How do you NOT name Janet?

Janet is Black AND female AND insanely successful. I mean, the bitch has 18 consecutive top 10 hits. Only bested by The Beatles and Elvis.

Janet is the quintessential female pop performer, hands down.

Janet's image is aped by almost every female popular music performer out there.

Pop ingenue turns sex goddess/sexually mature female artist? That's Janet.

The combination of sexual assertiveness, social awareness, and virtuosic performance style= Janet. Everyone's been trying for decades.

Janet's mark is all over today's acts. And not just Black or R&B or female. It's in Ariana. Xtina. Jessie J. Nicki. Panic at the Disco.

Janet's influence is more widespread than Her peers as well. Again, receipts do not lie.

Ariana - a child TV star transitioning into a musical pop star. Sound familiar? Janet.

Your faves trying to be a singer-dancer-actress. Again, Janet template.

But ppl don't know these things because the media will not allow Janet to be great. She can't be "above" anyone.

Even in the 80s, Janet's influence was instant. Vanessa Williams, Karyn White, Paula all had careers because of Janet.

Even in the 80s, Janet's influence was instant. Vanessa Williams, Karyn White, Paula all had careers because of Janet.

about handle it with Donna Summer. Now Whitney and Janet.....

With Whitney, there was a sudden emphasis on "she doesn't write her songs", as if anyone cared before Whitney debuted. With Janet, it was

"she's only famous off her family name, and that success might not be enough to sustain a long career in music blah blah blah".

"Whitney doesn't sing with any soul! However, I wish she sang soul music or 'blacker' stuff than she does!"

"Janet, that was really good, but you're still a Jackson! And you'll never be like Madonna!"

"Janet, you're trying too hard to change the world with this album". Now had Madonna come out with RN1814....

Whitney and Janet are, hands down, the two most important black artists of the past three decades. And it's even more significant because

they're women. Everyone was taking from them and being inspired by them, no matter race, gender, sexuality, age, religion, culture etc.

It's beyond sales for them, despite their phenomenal successes. They changed the industry.

Their respective images and styles of performance are foundations in modern popular music.

The R&R HOF didn't induct Donna due to her being "disco". BULLSHIT. You don't make the same mistake for 10 years.

Another case, Whitney Houston. The fact that Whitney fucking Houston hasn't been inducted says Black and female is threatening.

That whole thing read like typical exaggerated and defensive Janet stan rhetoric that we've heard numerous times before. It's also hilariously embarrassing that they constantly throw up forgotten names like Karyn White and Pebbles as examples of her "influence." LMAO! Really? Come on now. Only a Janet stan would use long past relevant has-beens and one-hit wonders from years, if not decades, ago to try and affirm her "importance." Meanwhile Janet couldn't sing "Superwoman" on her best day.

Vanessa Williams was Miss America, had some success in music, but probably made a greater name for herself as an actress (and I'd argue her success in that genre trumps Janet's.) How the hell do you figure she owes her career to Janet? Because of that forgettable music video for the nearly forgotten "Right Stuff," which wasn't even that big a hit at the time? Vanessa's most famous songs are "Dreamin'," "Save The Best For Last," and "Colors of the Wind." What the fuck about any of those songs say "Janet?" Hell, she primarily recorded mid tempos and ballads that played more into the influence of Whitney and the gateway that HER success may have created for talented vocalists like her (and Karyn White, for that matter.) Yet, why don't I ever hear Whitney fans trying to co-opt her success? Could it be because they don't have to. Could it be that Whitney fans don't need to feel validated by the spin-off success of some passing through hitmaker from 25 years ago, who may have been able to get on momentarily because of a gateway she arguably helped open. Heh. Speaking of Vanessa, interesting how SHE was able to bounce back after taking her clothes off. Hmmm. Yeah, I don't think anyone needs to ever mention she and Janet in the same sentence ever again. The reach.

And Paula Abdul? Seriously? Renowned choreographer Paula Abdul; former head choreographer for the Laker Girls, the one who choreographed the Victory tour? The woman who won an Emmy for choreographing the Tracy Ullman Show? The woman who choreographed the movies BIG, COMING TO AMERICA and CAN'T BUY ME LOVE? The woman who Janet has to thank for the Control videos looking better than her cheesy early 80s performances for Dick Clark on American Bandstand. They DARE say that Janet was responsible for her career? Really?! If Paula has any of obnoxious stans of her own, they could make the exact same argument in reverse.

The reaching is just sad now. Whoever posted that was just another delusional Janet stan who can't afford a hemorrhoid pillow. One of quite a few apparently. And if they can't afford one of those, I'm wondering how they plan on copping that "Chatter In a Crackerbix" nonsense or whatever.

The bottom line is that Janet stans are envious, insecure, shell shocked, acknowledgment-starved, always out to prove something on her behalf, credit her for things she doesn't deserve, full of excuses for her failings, and just fucking annoying overall. Like I said in another thread, they're basically "Jan Brady." Everything...every credit...every accolade...every title...every thumbs up...every cookie...etc., etc. that MJ and/or Madonna has, they want Janet to have too, just because. They're that bratty middle child who thinks that their parents gave them less food than the others. And again it's hilarious watching them seethe as more years and decades go by without the industry giving into their ridiculous demands, hissy fits and laughable online petitions/youtube videos. Speaking of MJ and Madonna, the guy kept mentioning how they supposedly started borrowing from her...but very conveniently left out how Janet blatantly stole from them more than once.

Meanwhile, I wonder if fans of Etta James, Tina Turner, Donna Summer, Diana Ross & The Supremes, and Aretha Franklin are on of Twitter fabricating conspiracy theories as to why their black asses aren't in the RRHOF. Oh, no they wouldn't, would they? Because they are. Go figure!

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it's funny the way Janet fans insist that Britney was heavily influenced by Janet.

Britney Spears is a talentless puppet who lip-syncs 99% of her shows If I were a Janet fan,I wouldn't want Britney to ever be mentioned in the same breath as Janet

it's funny the way Janet fans insist that Britney was heavily influenced by Janet.

Britney Spears is a talentless puppet who lip-syncs 99% of her shows If I were a Janet fan,I wouldn't want Britney to ever be mentioned in the same breath as Janet

Qazz said:

i hope yall realize these are tweets from a random stan on twitter, i have no idea why op made a thread from this (unless he is the stan), imo this is just a bait thread.

Qazz said:

That whole thing read like typical exaggerated and defensive Janet stan rhetoric that we've heard numerous times before. It's also hilariously embarrassing that they constantly throw up forgotten names like Karyn White and Pebbles as examples of her "influence." LMAO! Really? Come on now. Only a Janet stan would use long past relevant has-beens and one-hit wonders from years, if not decades, ago to try and affirm her "importance." Meanwhile Janet couldn't sing "Superwoman" on her best day.

Vanessa Williams was Miss America, had some success in music, but probably made a greater name for herself as an actress (and I'd argue her success in that genre trumps Janet's.) How the hell do you figure she owes her career to Janet? Because of that forgettable music video for the nearly forgotten "Right Stuff," which wasn't even that big a hit at the time? Vanessa's most famous songs are "Dreamin'," "Save The Best For Last," and "Colors of the Wind." What the fuck about any of those songs say "Janet?" Hell, she primarily recorded mid tempos and ballads that played more into the influence of Whitney and the gateway that HER success may have created for talented vocalists like her (and Karyn White, for that matter.) Yet, why don't I ever hear Whitney fans trying to co-opt her success? Could it be because they don't have to. Could it be that Whitney fans don't need to feel validated by the spin-off success of some passing through hitmaker from 25 years ago, who may have been able to get on momentarily because of a gateway she arguably helped open. Heh. Speaking of Vanessa, interesting how SHE was able to bounce back after taking her clothes off. Hmmm. Yeah, I don't think anyone needs to ever mention she and Janet in the same sentence ever again. The reach.

And Paula Abdul? Seriously? Renowned choreographer Paula Abdul; former head choreographer for the Laker Girls, the one who choreographed the Victory tour? The woman who won an Emmy for choreographing the Tracy Ullman Show? The woman who choreographed the movies BIG, COMING TO AMERICA and CAN'T BUY ME LOVE? The woman who Janet has to thank for the Control videos looking better than her cheesy early 80s performances for Dick Clark on American Bandstand. They DARE say that Janet was responsible for her career? Really?! If Paula has any of obnoxious stans of her own, they could make the exact same argument in reverse.

The reaching is just sad now. Whoever posting that was just another delusional Janet stan who can't afford a hemorrhoid pillow. One of quite a few apparently. And if they can't afford one of those, I'm wondering how they plan on copping that "Chatter In a Crackerbix" nonsense or whatever.

The bottom line is that Janet stans are envious, insecure, shell shocked, acknowledgment-starved, always out to prove something on her behalf, full of excuses for her failings, and just fucking annoying overall. Like I said in another thread, they're basically "Jan Brady." Everything...every credit...every accolade...every title...every thumbs up...etc., etc. that MJ and Madonna has, they want Janet to have too, just because. They're that bratty middle child who thinks that their parents gave them less food than the others. And again it's hilarious watching them seethe as more years and decades go by without the industry giving into their ridiculous demands, hissy fits and laughable online petitions/youtube videos. Speaking of MJ and Madonna, the guy kept mentioning how they supposedly started borrowing from her...but very conveniently left out how Janet blatantly stole from them more than once.

Meanwhile, I wonder if fans of Etta James, Tina Turner, Donna Summer, Diana Ross & The Supremes, and Aretha Franklin are on of Twitter fabricating conspiracy theories as to why their black asses aren't in the RRHOF. Oh, no they wouldn't, would they? Because they are. Go figure!

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your anti janet rant is just as bad as the stan's pro janet rant. for you not to like her you sure run your ass up in every thread with her name on it.and dead@you mentioning a handful of black women who are in the rrhof. and you are right, paila abdul's 3 videos she choreographed from control made janet's career.....none of which are even her most iconic routines mind you. and to deny that the control album created a whole new lane for black female artists makes you foolish, all you have to do is watch some of the unsung episodes and hear female artists who were known for their vocals comment on how their labels wanted them to sound like janet.

First off, this Qazz person clearly has something personal against Miss Jackson, that much is apparent. Dude, your signature is now a Janet diss? You got issues, bro. I tend to think it's more about her fanbase than the woman herself where you're concerned, but if it's not, and she told you to go fuck yourself when you asked for an autograph years ago, just let it go.

Psy & Iggy Azalea are the two most important black artists of the last 30 years.

9 Ways Janet Jackson Changed The Music Industry Forever

By Conor Behan

It’s Janet June! All month long, we’re paying tribute to Janet — Miss Jackson, if you’re nasty — with a celebration the legacy of the icon as she prepares to make her long-awaited comeback to the music scene. Welcome back, Miss Janet.

It’s a good time to be Janet Jackson.

Not only did the pop icon just celebrate her 49th birthday, but she also announced her return to pop music this year.

The last time we got a full new album from Janet was in 2008, and much has changed since the days before Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Adele and Taylor Swift came pop megastars, before Twitter created careers and before Spotify made sales a thing of the past. But for all the things that have changed since we last had Janet hitting the charts, it’s Miss Jackson herself who changed the game.

Don’t believe us? Here’s how Janet paved the way and made her influence felt in the music world.

1. Music Videos

It’s often pointed out how Janet’s contemporaries Madonna and Michael Jackson made the music video an event in the early '80s. But when Janet released clips for the singles off of her breakthrough 3rd album Control in 1986, she showed a mastery of the form that would become a signature of her career. From intricate choreography in "What Have You Done for Me Lately" to the long-form political pop visuals of Rhythm Nation in 1989, Janet showed an understanding and flair for performing in music videos that would cement her status as a pop icon.

That trend would continue throughout her career, from the brazen sexual imagery of the "If" video, the beautifully realized detail of "Got ‘Til It’s Gone" and "All For You"’s stylized cartoon dance party. Janet reminded you that the music video was the perfect medium for a superstar to carve out their message, no matter how that may change from record to record.

2. Sex

We’ve all read many a thinkpiece about how today’s pop queens are so hypersexed that the Billboard Hot 100 is just a soft-porn slideshow. But that’s a limited view however and ignores that many a pop titan has embraced their sexy side.

While Madonna’s fearless approach to sexuality seemed to peak (and almost derail her career) with 1992’s Erotica, Janet’s self-titled 1993 effort saw Jackson double down on the sex-talk and move effortlessly into the next wave of her career. That may have reached saturation point with the post-Superbowl backlash in 2004, but 90s Janet showed today’s pop starlets the template for doing grown-up, sexually charged music that could still have mass appeal. (You just know that Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus had a listen to "If" before planning their respective sexy makeovers.)

3. Big Budget Tours

The blockbuster success of Rhythm Nation sent Janet on the road for her first tour in 1990. The subsequent jaunt, imaginatively titled the Rhythm Nation Tour, would go on to become the most successful debut tour by any pop performer, taking in $28 million from over 110 shows.

Across all of her tours, Janet helped pioneer the kind of multi-media extravaganza that is now standard for Gaga, Pink and Britney, amongst countless others.

From a squad of back-up dancers to multiple costume changes, Janet was one of the first stars to recreate the lavish world of her music videos in a live context.

4. Choreography

From lavish shows to eye-popping videos, one of Janet’s hallmarks soon became her intricate and instantly iconic choreography, which also launched the careers of famous choreographers like Tina Landon and Paula Abdul. From "What Have You Done For Me Lately" onwards, Janet pioneered a kind of sinewy, seemingly effortless but breathtaking way of hitting through tightly choreographed dance steps.

Clips like "Rhythm Nation," "If," "Pleasure Principle" and "Together Again" showed Jackson’s knack for switching up her dance style with ease. Pick any “squad of dancers behind a popstar” dance video of the last 10 years and you’ll see Janet’s influence straight away.

5. Pop Production

Over the last five years the producer has become more paramount in pop than ever before. From DJs like Diplo and David Guetta to the continued success of Dr. Luke and Max Martin, the people twiddling the knobs on hit songs have as much fame as the stars fronting them. Janet understood the power of a good production team at a key juncture in her career.

When she reinvented herself with the tough, streetwise charm of Control, Janet roped in Prince collaborators (and stars in their own right) Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to revamp her sound. It paid off, and meant that of the 16 (!) Billboard Hot 100 number ones Jam and Lewis scored, 9 of those came from their work with Janet (Max Martin currently has 8 of his 20 Hot 100 number ones for his work with Katy Perry).

Janet showed the power of finding the right production team to further your vision, and the Janet, Jam and Lewis collaborative magic helped make her a star.

6. Event Albums

Once Janet made the pop world truly notice her with the breakout success of Control, she turned her album releases into events: From interludes and deep cuts, each Janet album was a full body of work and only released every few years.

Jackson made her albums blockbusters releases and, well before the current era where singles come with a teaser clip, lyric videos, artwork reveal and album re-releases almost instantly, Jackson showed the power of making the album your calling card.

7. Record Deals

Mariah Carey returned to Sony Records recently, who she left after she infamously signed a $100 million dollar contract with Virgin Records in 2000. (The label would then buy Carey out of her contract after Glitter underperformed.) But before that, Janet set a precedent for big-ticket record contracts.

Pre-janet. album Jackson signed a contract with Virgin Records worth $50 million dollars an unprecedented amount at the time, which was then re-upped to the tune of $80 million in the mid '90s before the release of Velvet Rope.

Jackson made the record business put their money into her work in a move that signified the power of the big-ticket female pop icon. Now, labels engineer “360 deals," Jay Z uses big name stars to promote Tidal and pop stars leverage their music appeal into contracts for other endorsements.

Before Taylor Swift and Gaga were topping Forbes lists of powerful pop icons, Janet was showing how the music world could answer to the artists that had made it so much money.

8. Future Stars

Janet’s influence has been cited by a bevy of pop performers, and she even helped give some performers their start: Paula Abdul transitioned into a massively successful pop career after Janet encouraged her having worked on much of her choreography.

Jennifer Lopez made one of her first on-screen appearances in the clip for Janet’s "That’s The Way Love Goes" video, and frequently cites Jackson’s own style of dance as an inspiration.

Meanwhile Jackson’s visual influence on performers like Britney Spears, Ciara and Zendaya is obvious. In fact, for all the focus on how Britney was allegedly mimicking Madonna, the style of dance and even her shedding of her sexy image felt far more in line with how Janet has made her mark.

Pink, Beyoncé, Kelly Rowland, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna and Lady Gaga have all cited Jackson’s influence on them as pop stars, showing the length and breadth of her ongoing impact on pop.

And it’s not just her pop contemporaries! Little Dragon, Dev Hynes and How To Dress Well are just some of the alternative acts to reference their fandom of Janet’s material, while Kendrick Lamar’s "Poetic Justice," released in 2013, included a sample of "Any Time, Any Place."

9. The Velvet Rope and Beyond

Janet had already embraced her sexuality, talked about the state of the world and emancipated herself from family pressures on her albums prior to The Velvet Rope.

But on this 1998 release, she delved into heavier subject matter and created an album that took the kind of twists and turns now standard for “alternative” R&B. Before The Weeknd, FKA Twigs and Kelela were critical darlings, Janet was exploring cutting edge production, brutal honesty and an uncompromising vision.

From the joyful house-pop sheen of "Together Again" to the eerily aware take on where the internet would shift desire on "Empty," it’s not only one of Janet’s best albums, but one that holds up a mirror to where many artists would head musically years later.

SEANMAN said:

This is the day I reconnected with Janet after 30 YEARS!!! She was just as sweet & kind..

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SEANMAN said:

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This is the day I reconnected with Janet after 30 YEARS!!! She was just as sweet & kind..

You reconnected with Janet in 2008 (the day pictured) after THIRTY years? So you met her in 1978 when you were two years old during the Destiny era.

Guy makes argument that Janet Jackson & Whitney Houston are the two most important black artists of the last 30 years

How humble of Guy
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lowkey said:

Qazz said:

That whole thing read like typical exaggerated and defensive Janet stan rhetoric that we've heard numerous times before. It's also hilariously embarrassing that they constantly throw up forgotten names like Karyn White and Pebbles as examples of her "influence." LMAO! Really? Come on now. Only a Janet stan would use long past relevant has-beens and one-hit wonders from years, if not decades, ago to try and affirm her "importance." Meanwhile Janet couldn't sing "Superwoman" on her best day.

Vanessa Williams was Miss America, had some success in music, but probably made a greater name for herself as an actress (and I'd argue her success in that genre trumps Janet's.) How the hell do you figure she owes her career to Janet? Because of that forgettable music video for the nearly forgotten "Right Stuff," which wasn't even that big a hit at the time? Vanessa's most famous songs are "Dreamin'," "Save The Best For Last," and "Colors of the Wind." What the fuck about any of those songs say "Janet?" Hell, she primarily recorded mid tempos and ballads that played more into the influence of Whitney and the gateway that HER success may have created for talented vocalists like her (and Karyn White, for that matter.) Yet, why don't I ever hear Whitney fans trying to co-opt her success? Could it be because they don't have to. Could it be that Whitney fans don't need to feel validated by the spin-off success of some passing through hitmaker from 25 years ago, who may have been able to get on momentarily because of a gateway she arguably helped open. Heh. Speaking of Vanessa, interesting how SHE was able to bounce back after taking her clothes off. Hmmm. Yeah, I don't think anyone needs to ever mention she and Janet in the same sentence ever again. The reach.

And Paula Abdul? Seriously? Renowned choreographer Paula Abdul; former head choreographer for the Laker Girls, the one who choreographed the Victory tour? The woman who won an Emmy for choreographing the Tracy Ullman Show? The woman who choreographed the movies BIG, COMING TO AMERICA and CAN'T BUY ME LOVE? The woman who Janet has to thank for the Control videos looking better than her cheesy early 80s performances for Dick Clark on American Bandstand. They DARE say that Janet was responsible for her career? Really?! If Paula has any of obnoxious stans of her own, they could make the exact same argument in reverse.

The reaching is just sad now. Whoever posting that was just another delusional Janet stan who can't afford a hemorrhoid pillow. One of quite a few apparently. And if they can't afford one of those, I'm wondering how they plan on copping that "Chatter In a Crackerbix" nonsense or whatever.

The bottom line is that Janet stans are envious, insecure, shell shocked, acknowledgment-starved, always out to prove something on her behalf, full of excuses for her failings, and just fucking annoying overall. Like I said in another thread, they're basically "Jan Brady." Everything...every credit...every accolade...every title...every thumbs up...etc., etc. that MJ and Madonna has, they want Janet to have too, just because. They're that bratty middle child who thinks that their parents gave them less food than the others. And again it's hilarious watching them seethe as more years and decades go by without the industry giving into their ridiculous demands, hissy fits and laughable online petitions/youtube videos. Speaking of MJ and Madonna, the guy kept mentioning how they supposedly started borrowing from her...but very conveniently left out how Janet blatantly stole from them more than once.

Meanwhile, I wonder if fans of Etta James, Tina Turner, Donna Summer, Diana Ross & The Supremes, and Aretha Franklin are on of Twitter fabricating conspiracy theories as to why their black asses aren't in the RRHOF. Oh, no they wouldn't, would they? Because they are. Go figure!

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your anti janet rant is just as bad as the stan's pro janet rant. for you not to like her you sure run your ass up in every thread with her name on it.and dead@you mentioning a handful of black women who are in the rrhof. and you are right, paila abdul's 3 videos she choreographed from control made janet's career.....none of which are even her most iconic routines mind you. and to deny that the control album created a whole new lane for black female artists makes you foolish, all you have to do is watch some of the unsung episodes and hear female artists who were known for their vocals comment on how their labels wanted them to sound like janet.

This deserved a highlighting. Qazz is a troll, plain and simple. Who else would continuously stay in the threads of an artist they DON'T like? And yes, CONTROL was legendary in a lot of ways, one of them being that it was the first time that a dance diva of color hit the stratosphere. Let's have a look at what CONTROL begat...

I'd like to nominate GUY as the most important black artists of the last 40 years. Can we bring back the New Jack Swing era? These guys look like the borrowed Hammer's outfits.

Wow... JJ fans are amongst the most desperate and deluded fanbases of any artist I've encountered.

BlackCat1985 said:

He made a lot of great points! Go Janet Go! I love how her threads have dominated the Non-Prince.org forum. Lol! Love her or hate her you folks love talking about her.

Now that an album is ACTUALLY LOOMING, it is to be expected. This place always heats up around release time.

BlackCat1985 said:

He made a lot of great points! Go Janet Go! I love how her threads have dominated the Non-Prince.org forum. Lol! Love her or hate her you folks love talking about her.

Yes!

MattyJam said:

Wow... JJ fans are amongst the most desperate and deluded fanbases of any artist I've encountered.

Umm...no. But thanks for playing.

SEANMAN said:

MattyJam said:

Wow... JJ fans are amongst the most desperate and deluded fanbases of any artist I've encountered.

Umm...no. But thanks for playing.

I think MattyJam is hating the PLAYER and the GAME. There's a lot of that going on in here, especially when it comes to Janet....lol

jdhj76 said:

SEANMAN said:

Umm...no. But thanks for playing.

I think MattyJam is hating the PLAYER and the GAME. There's a lot of that going on in here, especially when it comes to Janet....lol

Right!