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Thread started 02/14/15 2:18pm

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Pino Palladino or Stuart Zender-Who is the better bassist

I lean more towards Stuart.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #1 posted 02/14/15 4:32pm

Ego101

Stuart is more RAW.. Loose.. he does his thing .. & its GOOD!

ie: Jamiroquai's 'MR MOON'

But...

I'd personally go with Pino because im sure he could do what Zender does if he were instructed to

'LET LOOSE'..

But,

Im not so sure that Zender could discipline himself enough to do what Pino does for artist ranging from Tears for Fears and David Gilmour to D'angelo.

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Reply #2 posted 02/14/15 9:24pm

nuttynutmeg

Pino all the way. Stuart is great and all, and Jamiroquai has never been the same without him, but he can't touch Pino. But I'd love to see that Stuart and D collabo happening!

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Reply #3 posted 02/15/15 9:42am

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Apparently Stuart has worked with D in some capacity.

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Reply #4 posted 02/15/15 10:27am

nuttynutmeg

Yes he did, during the Voodoo era.

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Reply #5 posted 02/15/15 1:01pm

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Nutty, did he do tracks on the Voodoo cd or what?

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Reply #6 posted 02/15/15 4:57pm

Ego101

Stuart was affiliated with D's label/management- Cheeba Sound/Virgin.

*Same label Nikka Costa was on.

[Edited 2/15/15 22:16pm]

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Reply #7 posted 02/15/15 5:51pm

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scriptgirl said:

Nutty, did he do tracks on the Voodoo cd or what?

Love Is So Cold, was originally slated for Voodoo album. As we all know, it eventually ended up on Don-E's record with D'Angelo's keys intact. I highly suspect that there's a recording with D'Angelo's vocal tracks as Don E's version is basically a note for note copy of D's trademark singing style and vocal arrangements.

There's an old article that details what went wrong with Stu's Azure project, which also mentioned D's involvement, and....Tyrese.

http://www.angelfire.com/.../azur.html

Exclusive Review: Stu's The AZUR Project

I heard it!

I got to hear the AZUR album. Well, the 45 mins/10 tracks that were completed.

IT ROCKED!

Lots of urban jungle style. D'Angelo and so forth if your familiar with the US style of the genre. Major stuff that would be an easy crossover hit in America. Stu is all over the place just flexing. No show off "I am your god" stuff like some would do. Just enough to prove he's good and leave more than enough room for everyone else to also shine.

Those who remember StuartZender.com will probably recall a small section dedicated to "AZUR". Well, 'What is "AZUR"?' you ask. AZUR (pronounced 'Az U R') was a band formed by Stuart Zender (ex-Jamiroquai bassist) and his friend Donny. The project was to show off the men's writing skills and Stu's own producing talents on the Virgin Records label. Few details at the time had surfaced. Gathering from various publications, the group was to feature a horn section from Cuba, Pino Palladino, and D'Angelo. A single was planned (major worldwide release) for Spring 2000.

And then.. nothing.

The news stopped and after awhile everyone accepted that something must have gone wrong to sour the deal. Stuart never talked about what happened in publication so most of the details are sketchy. Apparently, Virgin was all for the idea of the AZUR album. They had fan popular (and well respected in the industry) bassist Stuart Zender, a partner for him (Donny), and one of their own artists (D'Angelo) collaberating on the project. Virgin had major plans for a US release of the album, as well as, the rest of the world. Stu was thrilled to put it mildly. The album quickly started working out in weeks what takes most groups months.

So what went wrong? It seems Tyrese did. Virgin's decision to release and promote the Tyrese album seemed to upset Stu. I don't know why or how fully this is true but we know the result. Virgin Records kept sending money to Stuart & Donny for the AZUR project. Virgin already had the first AZUR track in hand to start working as a single but no other material. And so Virgin kept sending money and AZUR kept sending back no word. This little game went on for awhile before Virgin decided to call it quits. Amazingly, neither side has ever stated bad feelings about the project.

And so the album disappeared... until now, of course.

I can't say the how but I did get a good listen. No track names were available so these are of my own creation.
1 - Baby I've Got to Know
2 - Say I Want You
3 - AZUR (As You Are)
4 - Suddenly
5 - Love is So Cold (feat. D'Angelo)
6 - Anything to Make It Through
7 - Always Seem To Remind Me
8 - Get to Heaven
9 - Sunshine
10 - Picture in My Heart


"Love is So Cold (feat. D'Angelo)" was originally slated as "My Baby's Eyes" for D'Angelo's Voodoo album. Why he cut it, I'll never know. Standard D'Angelo smooth R&B music. subtle bassline and even lighter drums/percussion.

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Reply #8 posted 02/15/15 6:56pm

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I LOVE Love is so cold and yeah, that track has D written all over it. Don said that D laid down the lyrics after a gig in London, but the way Don told it, it seemed like it happened during the Brown Sugar tour when D was at Jazz Cafe. I could be wrong.

Stuart upset over Tyrese-they are too different artists and there is room for both. Where can I hear the Azur Stuart tracks?

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Reply #9 posted 02/15/15 11:13pm

nuttynutmeg

It's all here.

https://www.youtube.com/p...Q_879okDde

[Edited 2/15/15 23:15pm]

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Reply #10 posted 02/16/15 12:19am

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Thanks!

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