Mintchip said:

Gunsnhalen said:

She has become so fucking pathetic. Everyone seems to forget the n word bomb last year. Then the fact that she said her music being leaked. Was the same as being violated aka rape then constant posts about violation of her rights. And then comparing herself to Nelson Mandela. She's miss ''never apologize'' but had to apologize for the Mandela one. Claiming she wasn't comparing herself to him. But with that ego madonna is so hungry to stay relevant. and is constantly doing or saying dumb shit.

But if you try to criticize her. You are just ''jealous cause she's a strong woman'' a strong woman doesn't need to use racial slurs now does she? fuck her and her ego.

I disagree. People take this shit too seriously, overthink, and need to lighten up. Somebody mocks up a Mandela / MLK photo and she reposts it, so what? She admires them, and considers them "Rebels", good for her. Lennon, Marley, Kahlo; rad. Great roll models. What's the big fucking deal, really?

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Some day soon we;re going to want to stop being so outraged all the time, over everything. It's really not good for your skin, or your stomach.

Exactly.People are so sensitive and uptight these days,and are so quick to claim that someone is "racist".People need to stop taking everything so damn seriously.

It's not in any way racist, but I do think she has a "taste-level" problem, both in her music and her media personality. She's pretty damn tacky sometimes - but I'm sure that's her goal

MendesCity said:

It's not in any way racist, but I do think she has a "taste-level" problem, both in her music and her media personality. She's pretty damn tacky sometimes - but I'm sure that's her goal

Madonna is an extreme personality.I can truly see why some people get offended at things that she says and does.As a longtime fan,I "get" what she's trying to do I understood why she did the Sex book,lol.The general public doesn't always understand the point she's trying to make.They don't get the irony or the humor of it.That's why social media can be tricky for someone like her.

i find the bondage theme on the FACES black leaders & artists deeply offensive.

it's such a low trolling tactic i canceled my pre-order. dr kings image should not be lining her silk pockets.

terrig said:

i find the bondage theme on the FACES black leaders & artists deeply offensive.

it's such a low trolling tactic i canceled my pre-order. dr kings image should not be lining her silk pockets.

The black wires don't represent any kind of bondage or S&M theme. They represent the mainstream society and the status quo that try to stop people like MLK and Mandela from expressing themselves. The rebels rebel against the constraints of mainstream society and conventional thinking by using their heart. I'm surprised that people aren't intelligent to get the meaning of the imagery. If the black cords were meant to be demeaning she wouldn't have put them on her own face.

If this offends you and you can't understand the meaning maybe you should cancel your order maybe you aren't intelligent enough to appreciate Madonna's music and art in the first place.

Glindathegood said:

terrig said:

i find the bondage theme on the FACES black leaders & artists deeply offensive.

it's such a low trolling tactic i canceled my pre-order. dr kings image should not be lining her silk pockets.

The black wires don't represent any kind of bondage or S&M theme. They represent the mainstream society and the status quo that try to stop people like MLK and Mandela from expressing themselves. The rebels rebel against the constraints of mainstream society and conventional thinking by using their heart. I'm surprised that people aren't intelligent to get the meaning of the imagery. If the black cords were meant to be demeaning she wouldn't have put them on her own face.

If this offends you and you can't understand the meaning maybe you should cancel your order maybe you aren't intelligent enough to appreciate Madonna's music and art in the first place.

Exactly.

DaveT said:

Am I the only massive Madge fan whose waiting until March to listen to this stuff for the first time?

you haven't even heard the officially released 6 tracks? I wish I had that kind of patience

SoulAlive said:

DaveT said:

Am I the only massive Madge fan whose waiting until March to listen to this stuff for the first time?

you haven't even heard the officially released 6 tracks? I wish I had that kind of patience

Its taking some will power, I can tell you!

Think I'm a bit more old school (at 34!) and I'm still holding on to the old tradition of getting hold of a physical CD/LP on release day and running home to give it a first listen. Had so many great moments with her previous albums with the first play through, its nice to keep the tradition going...

...two months and counting...!

Glindathegood said:

terrig said:

i find the bondage theme on the FACES black leaders & artists deeply offensive.

it's such a low trolling tactic i canceled my pre-order. dr kings image should not be lining her silk pockets.

The black wires don't represent any kind of bondage or S&M theme. They represent the mainstream society and the status quo that try to stop people like MLK and Mandela from expressing themselves. The rebels rebel against the constraints of mainstream society and conventional thinking by using their heart. I'm surprised that people aren't intelligent to get the meaning of the imagery. If the black cords were meant to be demeaning she wouldn't have put them on her own face.

If this offends you and you can't understand the meaning maybe you should cancel your order maybe you aren't intelligent enough to appreciate Madonna's music and art in the first place.

a. you're just wrong. madonna has used s/m bondage imagery damn near since day one....at this point there's nothing unique or interesting about it. it was more effective as an image when it was JUST HER. she's diluted the effectiveness and it mapde perfect sense when it was just her.

b. she;s using this to sell her album, and its racial trolling. period. to someone who is black those wires on mlk's face are demeaning. there are alot of ways to celebrate rebels...this isn't art its culturally insensitive especially in usa rt now.

c. just because she says its not bondage imagery doesnt mean it isn't. IT IS.

d. as far as understanding madonnas 'art' she has mined gay, black and latino culture since day one - to her credit she did help bring gay culture out from underground which has helped in moving gay culture into the mainstream

e. she trvializes nelson mandela, and martin luther king by using them as marketing constructs, like it or not - she knew exactly what she was doing, and its as low as you can go really.

f. madonna isnt really a damn rebel, let her go 'rebel' in a place where its actually rebellion to do someting ie: pussy riot...

g. in a country where a black young man was lynched for dating a white woman in 2014...using MLK sporting madonnas non-bondage bondage on his face is really just making a mockery of what MLK stood for because the USA is racing backwards at the speed of light, RIGHT NOW....and thinking for one hot second that waht MLK DIED FOR and on par with Madonnas 'celebration' of rebel hearts shines a light on how far she really is from whats happening in the usa and how little she has to care about it.

you'll never see madonna risk herself for anything that wont make her money. the idea that shes a rebel is laughable. so if you're going to insult my intelligence you'd best realize your stock pr answers are some hot mess bullshit.

- it makes sens for madonna to represent herself in this way, it makes sense in terms of what women are cultrally expected to be say and do....once she casts her net outside herself, she becomes inauthentic and desperate and she took a half decent idea and crapped on it. madonna has always been a#1 about HERSELF. she has never risked ANYTHING other than her nudity, you realize that rt? please let me know what REAL RISKS madonna has suffered for her rebel heart?

the dixie chicks have actually risked more and suffered more than madonna ever will.

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Terrig, sorry you are upset, but I think this is nothing but faux outrage. She posted pictures that FANS (or just regular Instagram people) made to symbolize people who were rebellious. She did a lot of people, not just Black civil rights leaders. It's hypocritical that nobody cared until the people she honored (in my opinion) happened to be Black.

That said, if I managed her social media account, I wouldn't have put up the pictures. In this time and age, I can see how people misinterpret things. People also love to "be offended" because it makes them feel better about themselves for some reason. You can say she was insensitive, but not racist in any way. She had good inentions.

As for Madonna not being a rebel, please. How old are you? She "appropriated" gay culture when gay people were seen as villains in the United States during the 1980s. It was a different time. She helped make gay culture "cool." And she wasn't appropriating it; she LIVED it. She was crucified in the media for her support of gay people and gay images. They even started rumors she had AIDS. For that, she is indeed a rebel heart.

Please, let's be outraged at REAL racists instead of trying to develop faux controversy to further our cause.

phillymonster said:

Terrig, sorry you are upset, but I think this is nothing but faux outrage. She posted pictures that FANS (or just regular Instagram people) made to symbolize people who were rebellious. She did a lot of people, not just Black civil rights leaders. It's hypocritical that nobody cared until the people she honored (in my opinion) happened to be Black.

That said, if I managed her social media account, I wouldn't have put up the pictures. In this time and age, I can see how people misinterpret things. People also love to "be offended" because it makes them feel better about themselves for some reason. You can say she was insensitive, but not racist in any way. She had good inentions.

As for Madonna not being a rebel, please. How old are you? She "appropriated" gay culture when gay people were seen as villains in the United States during the 1980s. It was a different time. She helped make gay culture "cool." And she wasn't appropriating it; she LIVED it. She was crucified in the media for her support of gay people and gay images. They even started rumors she had AIDS. For that, she is indeed a rebel heart.

Please, let's be outraged at REAL racists instead of trying to develop faux controversy to further our cause.

I'm 51 - ....have been there the whole ride and a wearing a wedding dress rolling on the floor and giving your life for civil rights are two entirely different thngs. the faux outrage argument is lame as well...people should understand and be outrgaed by the significance of that RIGHT NOW.


you wouldnt have put the pictures up if you were managing her account. That says it all really.

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I guess I'm missing out on a lot again, by not being on twitter, instagram, etc.?

phillymonster said:

Terrig, sorry you are upset, but I think this is nothing but faux outrage. She posted pictures that FANS (or just regular Instagram people) made to symbolize people who were rebellious. She did a lot of people, not just Black civil rights leaders. It's hypocritical that nobody cared until the people she honored (in my opinion) happened to be Black.

That said, if I managed her social media account, I wouldn't have put up the pictures. In this time and age, I can see how people misinterpret things. People also love to "be offended" because it makes them feel better about themselves for some reason. You can say she was insensitive, but not racist in any way. She had good inentions.

As for Madonna not being a rebel, please. How old are you? She "appropriated" gay culture when gay people were seen as villains in the United States during the 1980s. It was a different time. She helped make gay culture "cool." And she wasn't appropriating it; she LIVED it. She was crucified in the media for her support of gay people and gay images. They even started rumors she had AIDS. For that, she is indeed a rebel heart.

Please, let's be outraged at REAL racists instead of trying to develop faux controversy to further our cause.

It's like I said earlier.....social media is a risky thing for someone like Madonna,a bold woman who has alot of extreme views.People are going to misunderstand/misinterpret what she's really trying to say.They're not going to always "get" the message.But I agree with your last point...for the most part,this is nothing more than faux outrage by people who probably hate her anyways.These people should be outraged by all of the "real" examples of racism that's going on right now.

DaveT said:

SoulAlive said:

you haven't even heard the officially released 6 tracks? I wish I had that kind of patience

Its taking some will power, I can tell you!

Think I'm a bit more old school (at 34!) and I'm still holding on to the old tradition of getting hold of a physical CD/LP on release day and running home to give it a first listen. Had so many great moments with her previous albums with the first play through, its nice to keep the tradition going...

...two months and counting...!

I know what you mean.I,too,miss the old days...the days before the Internet when you could walk into a record store,buy a new album without having heard the songs already.I remember buying Bedtime Stories the day it was released and it was all new and fresh to me.I had only previously heard the first single "Secret".Ahh,the good ol' days

I've loved her since day one, but she is older, and may I add also raising 2 black children in america who are going to be asked how they feel about this at school and maybe even later on. It's good she apologized and isn't comparing herself to them, and I get what rebel heart means cause it seems cutesy, but she's smart enough to know that the images would cause controversy, and nobody needs madonna of all people or her fans to preach what these figures did for society, she's not in a position of power to do so this time, just my opinion. She needs to just make good music again and leave the self-righteous antics behind, and this is coming from a madonna fan. Honestly, she had more common sense and better music when married to guy, I miss that madonna and 80's madonna now.

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CandaceS said:

I guess I'm missing out on a lot again, by not being on twitter, instagram, etc.?

I'm not on Twitter or Instagram,either.I only do Facebook and I don't even go there as much as I used to Too much craziness on social media these days.

I love the song "Illuminati" but I have one minor complaint about it.....

Considering that this is a controversial,intriguing topic she's singing about,the lyrics in the second verses are too tame.It's as if during the second half of the song,she abandons the controversial aspect of it in favor of predictable lyrics about dancing....

let the music take you out of control

it's time to feel it in your body and soul,come on let's go

Earlier in the song,she mentions the New World Order,the founding fathers,and how the media is "misleading us all".Really interesting stuff! I would have liked her to give us some insight as the song progresses.Or maybe she was scared to go too deeply into this topic?

thoughts?

SoulAlive said:

I love the song "Illuminati" but I have one minor complaint about it.....

Considering that this is a controversial,intriguing topic she's singing about,the lyrics in the second verses are too tame.It's as if during the second half of the song,she abandons the controversial aspect of it in favor of predictable lyrics about dancing....

let the music take you out of control

it's time to feel it in your body and soul,come on let's go

Earlier in the song,she mentions the New World Order,the founding fathers,and how the media is "misleading us all".Really interesting stuff! I would have liked her to give us some insight as the song progresses.Or maybe she was scared to go too deeply into this topic?

thoughts?

I hear what you're saying about the laziness but she's probably also implying that people are "blind" about the illuminati and too busy dancing...or they should stop worrying about the whole conspiracy, shut up and dance

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I don't think she feels there's anything to go deeper into, because she believes the whole Illuminati idea is nonsense. At least that's the way I interpret it!

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BTW, have the new songs been getting any radio airplay? Or is she still blacklisted? When it comes to music, I only listen to Sirius-XM, not terrestrial radio. I hear her a lot on Utopia, and on "80's on 8" (seemingly a lot more now than before the new songs came out). But nothing on BPM. Maybe some other channel(s) are playing her?

All of this nonsense over memes has bowled over this delicious acoustic rendition of Wash All Over Me, previously leaked ruined by Av-ee-chee

TheGoldStandard said:

All of this nonsense over memes has bowled over this delicious acoustic rendition of Wash All Over Me, previously leaked ruined by Av-ee-chee

Acoustic WAOM??????

The Inside Story of How Madonna Turned Her 'Rebel Heart' Leak Into a Global Hit

"Living For Love" remixes

https://soundcloud.c...djemba-club-mix

or

http://www.audiomack...emba-club-mix-1

Madonnas time is has been UP.

getxxxx said:

Madonnas time is has been UP.

people have been saying that for the past 20 years her time will be up when SHE decides,lol

getxxxx said:

Madonnas time is has been UP.

getxxxx said:

I heard Ghosttown while I was in the waiting room at the dentist today. Made my visit a little more enjoyable. She's getting played here in Canada for a song which isn't even an official single. I can say this being yet another very successful era for her.