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Vibe: 20 Years Of 'CrazySexyCool': Why TLC Is More Important Than Destiny's Child

athy Iandoli Posted November 14, 2014

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Remembering TLC's groundbreaking contributions to girl group fame In the age of Beyoncé


Sometimes it’s hard to recognize the musical contributions of others in the midst of Beyoncé.

It’s 2014, and we’ve come to the conclusion that there’s Beyoncé and there’s “everyone else.” It’s been that way since Destiny’s Child. It’s that way today. And it’ll be that way tomorrow. When Beyoncé first emerged circa ‘98 — flanked by Kelly and those other two girls — in Destiny’s Child, they were a breath of fresh air to R&B. Musically, lots of changes were happening. Hip-hop was going through this crazy shift, as we were scrambling for kings following the loss of 'Pac and Biggie a year or two prior. Napster would arrive in ‘99, placing a moratorium on drastically innovative music because the industry was too preoccupied with trying to still make money in a drought.

It was the era where both Jay Z and Beyoncé flourished before finding each other. For Beyoncé, it was the slow rise above her sistren to ultimately make her mark as a solo great. Destiny’s Child was a vessel; they worked with solid producers, they had choreographed dances, they had full-bodied voices. But the reality was that they were merely a backing band for Beyoncé (much like the harsh truth of the Jackson 5). Still, from that came something amazing.

But collectively, what did Destiny’s Child actually do to change music as a group? The answer is not much. There were many who led a charge greater than DC3; TLC being one of them.

1992’s Ooooooohhh... On the TLC Tip was like the unruly child of the Salt-N-Pepa era, where sexual liberation was the motto but the Atlanta trio took it further. T-Boz, Left Eye, and Chilli each brought their je ne sais quoi to the mix: T-Boz stood up for the right to have an opinion, Left Eye stood up for the right to get off, and Chilli for the right to be loved. Together they made one powerful woman, a Hip-Hop-meets-R&B riot grrrl who had as much to say about sex as she did about the world. Their debut single “Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg” was an eye-opener, both in lyric and aesthetic. The girls wore condoms on their clothes (with Left Eye even rocking one over her eye) as they preached about safe sex backed by the beauty of an orgasm. Album cuts like “His Story” traced the Tawana Brawley trial, a hot topic of the late ‘80s involving rape allegations. Even a single like “Hat 2 Da Back” was a battle cry for any female who chose pants over a skirt. TLC had something to say and they delivered that message throughout their entire career.

Twenty years ago, their follow-up album CrazySexyCool arrived and destroyed any rumblings of a sophomore curse. TLC was a little older, trading baggy condom-studded pants in bright colors for form fitting outfits (they still wore pants though). The Grammy Award-winning album hit the Top 3 on Billboard and was certified diamond. The album brought their traditional breed of gender role reversals, as tracks like "Creep” highlighted infidelity on behalf of the woman and “Kick Your Game” schooled men on the proper way to approach a lady. There’s even an interlude called “Sexy” where Chilli calls a guy who thinks she’s provoking phone sex when she’s really in the bathroom. There were lessons woven in, especially on the colossal single “Waterfalls,” a track that tackled everything from street violence to AIDS.

TLC went on to deliver other songs like "FanMail), with their success coinciding with groups like Destiny’s Child by that point. Fame outweighed revolution by then as TLC was getting up there in age (for girl groups) and gracefully passed the torch. Losing one important member of their trio with the passing of Left Eye in 2002 had a lot to do with it as well. TLC didn’t add a new girl; they didn’t find a “Michelle.” Each part represented the whole in such a way that none could be replaced. Outside of Beyoncé and maybe Kelly Rowland, Destiny’s Child proved that members were interchangeable. So how could anyone disposable contribute to something huge?

It would be unfair to not give a group like Destiny’s Child their proper credit in making their mark in R&B history. But in the world of acts that changed the game, TLC has them beat. The crazy, the sexy, and the cool made us see the world differently, and that makes them irreplaceable.—Kathy Iandoli (@kath3000)

http://www.vibe.com/article/20-years-crazysexycool-why-tlc-more-important-destinys-child?utm_source=sc-tw&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign=TLC

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Reply #1 posted 11/14/14 1:52pm

Graycap23

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Beyonce and everyone else?

Who came 2 that conclusion?........Certainly not me.

Beyonce will go down as one the most overrated acts in history.

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Reply #2 posted 11/14/14 3:52pm

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Beyonce/DC were their opening act, Bills Bills Bills is just No Scrubs reworked, and Rozonda - Tionne - Lisa shouldn't be named in the same sentence as her , period. She is so not worthy.

I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #3 posted 11/14/14 6:01pm

Qazz

I much prefer TLC to Destiny's Child, but that this writer felt the compunction to pull this random comparison out of thin air to affirm that TLC was better just goes to show how much of a threat they see Beyonce/DC to TLC's legacy. TLC emerged during the same window of time as En Vogue, Boyz II Men, SWV, etc., etc., all of whom seriously challenged TLC during their peaking years. Wouldn't it be more realistic to compare and constract those groups to TLC than DC, who weren't even TLC's contemporaries and who arrived as TLC was beginning to fade out? This is just a transparent attempt to throw a dagger at Beyonce for being a frontwoman who was able to transcend her group, something no member of TLC could ever do.

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Reply #4 posted 11/14/14 8:43pm

SoulAlive

TLC had something that Destiny's Child lacked: good songs lol

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Reply #5 posted 11/14/14 9:30pm

lowkey

the whole point of this article seems like its to praise beyonce

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Reply #6 posted 11/14/14 11:20pm

ginusher

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Qazz said:

I much prefer TLC to Destiny's Child, but that this writer felt some compunction to pull this comparison out of thin air just to affirm that they were better just goes to show how much of a threat they see Beyonce/DC to the legacy of TLC. TLC emerged during the same window of time as En Vogue, Boyz II Men, SWV, etc., etc., all of whom seriously challenged TLC during their peaking years. Wouldn't it be more realistic to compare and constract those groups to TLC than DC, who weren't even TLC's contemporaries and who arrived as TLC was beginning to fade out? This is just a transparent attempt to throw a dagger at Beyonce for being a frontwoman who was able to transcend her group, something no member of TLC could ever do.

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Much agreed, and I have as much love for TLC as I do for Destiny's Child.

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I would say that both groups have their own qualities. Yes, I'd say that TLC was more balanced in how all three girls had about equal billing, while in DC Beyoncé was the obvious 'leading lady' from the get-go... but why does it matter? I mean, in En Vogue it was Dawn. It's not an uncommon phenomenon for these singing groups to have an uneven balance in what the members get to do.

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Reply #7 posted 11/15/14 4:19am

BlackCat1985

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I love TLC! I hate that this article put these two groups up against each other. And why does Beyonce have to be brought up all the damn time. I swear to god I just don't get the hype around her. Can another artist receive recognition without Beyonce's name being brought up.
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Reply #8 posted 11/15/14 7:07am

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One of the things I thought of was that TLC did not end pretty. The girls parted and fans were not sure if they'd ever reunite. It was an unfinished story. With Destiny's Child, we knew they were breaking up - could see each gal doing their own thing - and then were given periodic reunions. Then with the tragedy of Left Eye, hopes for TLC to return in their original version were forever squashed. This must have been what it was like when The Supremes lost Florence Ballard unexpectedly and tragically - by then Diana Ross and Mary Wilson had to move on, and they did.

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Reply #9 posted 11/15/14 10:13pm

LiveToTell86

Red Light Special, Waterfalls & Diggin' On You are awesome!!! music

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Reply #10 posted 11/16/14 5:11am

TonyVanDam

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If THIS thread was a remix, it would be:

Why TLC, SWV, Jade, Brownstone, and even motherf***ing Blackgirl are more important than Destiny's Child! mr.green

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Reply #11 posted 11/16/14 11:43am

ginusher

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^I don't know about that, I think The Writing's On The Wall is a very solid album that still holds up.

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And while I never cared too much for Survivor personally, I can't deny its massive crossover appeal. Those singles were everywhere.

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Reply #12 posted 11/17/14 10:42am

mjscarousal

TLC was always more Iconic/Important than Destiny Childs. I liked DC but lets be real their only good album was "Writings on the Wall" and even that album is still overrated. What made TLC Iconic were there songs, albums, look, charisma, personality etc. They were more authentic and real compared to DC. TLC's success was dependent on the contributions of each of the girls in the group unike DC which was really not a group and just a anchor for Beyonce's solo career.

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