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Reply #30 posted 09/27/14 7:22pm

lowkey

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DVD: 1. Home (The Merv Griffin Show, 1983) 2. You Give Good Love (The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, 1985) 3. How Will I Know (The Brit Awards, 1987) 4. One Moment In Time (The 31st Annual Grammy® Awards, 1989) 5. Greatest Love Of All (That s What Friends Are For: Arista Records 15th Anniversary Concert, 1990 6. I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me) (That's What Friends Are For: Arista Records 15th Anniversary Concert, 1990) 7. The Star Spangled Banner (Super Bowl XXV, 1991) 8. All The Man That I Need (Welcome Home Heroes, 1991) 9. I'm Your Baby Tonight (Welcome Home Heroes, 1991) 10. A Song For You (Welcome Home Heroes, 1991) 11. Medley: I Loves You, Porgy/And I Am Telling You Im Not Going/I Have Nothing (The 21st Annual American Music Awards, 1994) 12. I'm Every Woman (The Concert For A New South Africa, 1994) 13. I Will Always Love You (The Concert For A New South Africa, 1994) 14. My Love Is Your Love (Music Video BONUS DVD-ONLY MUSIC VIDEO) 15. My Love Is Your Love (Late Show With David Letterman, 1998) 16. When You Believe (with Mariah Carey) (The 71st Annual Academy Awards, 1999 BONUS DVD-ONLY DUET PERFORMANCE) 17. I Believe In You And Me (The 16th Annual World Music Awards, 2004) 18. I Didn't Know My Own Strength (The Oprah Winfrey Show, 2009)

not alot of my favs on there.....if i could make my own it would stay on repeat.

you give good love

saving all my love

take good care of my heart

thinking about you

where you are

i wanna dance with somebody

for the love of you

im your baby tonight

all the man i need

after we make love

i believe in you and me

i love the lord

iwill always love you

im every woman

exhale

i learned from the best

heartbreak hotel

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Reply #31 posted 09/27/14 7:41pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Whitney to Sony: “I Will Always Owe You”

"I owe you how much?"

There have been numerous media reports since her untimely death that Whitney Houston passed away “dead” broke. A Whitney insider told Radar Online “Whitney’s fortune is gone. Music industry heavy hitters are supporting her and her label is fronting her cash against her next album, but no one knows when that will be released. She might be homeless if not for people saving her…She is broke as a joke. She called someone to ask for $100. It is so sad. She should have Mariah Carey money, and she’s flat broke.” Stories in the mainstream media claiming she died near bankruptcy continued to appear in spite of reports that insisted Whitney had made $36 million from her last tour a couple of years ago and, of course, her huge new $100 million dollar record deal with Sony Music in 2002.

How in God’s name could she, or anyone, have blown through that much dough?

The answer is simple, according to one source who was close to Whitney. “It takes a lot of money to maintain that lifestyle”.

Then again, Sony never wrote out a check for $100 million either.

According to a very highly placed industry source who is very familiar with the Whitney situation, the deal most likely looks like every major superstar recording contract like these days. The deal would look something like this: 4 studio albums and 2 compilation album (Greatest Hits, Number One’s, something like that) with a $25 million advance for the first album (Just Whitney) and a $10 million advance for the second album (I Look To You). Tacked on to that advance would be the costs of the music videos at approximately $500,000 each (there was a total of 6 music videos produced under the new deal which would total approximately $3 million in costs). That would bring the total amount of money that Whitney Houston would owe Sony to approximately $38 million. Maybe more. Her royalty rate was most likely $4 per album, and the new deal would have reset all future royalty payments on past catalog. Any deficits in her royalty account up to that point were more than likely wiped out, according to the source, basically giving Houston a fresh start. This means that Whitney would have to sell at least 9.5 million albums to repay here advances and start to get royalty checks.

Now we have to look at what she has sold. The first album under the new deal, 2002′s Just Whitney, has sold 763,188 in the US. The second album, I Look To You from 2009, sold 992,904. That’s a total of 1,756, 092. Let’s round it off at 1.76 million. Now let’s double it to account for foreign sales. That brings the total to approximately 3.51 million. Now let’s add in her Christmas album from 2003, One Wish: The Holiday Album, which sold 490,00 units. That brings here total sales to around 4 million units under her last deal.

Now, according to Billboard Magazine, ”The late Whitney Houston has two of the three biggest jumps on the Billboard 200 this week. Her “The Preacher’s Wife” soundtrack runs 183-90 (up 93 slots) and “I Look To You” flies 118-65 (up 53 positions). “The Preacher’s Wife” sold 7,000 (up 46%), while “I Look To You” did 9,000 (up 81%). Houston, who died on Feb. 11, sold a collected 247,000 albums last week (ending Feb. 19) — the first full sales week after her death. Her biggest seller was “Whitney: the Greatest Hits,” with 175,000 (up 174%). Overall, Houston’s albums earned a 144% sales increase in the week ending Feb. 19, compared to the 101,000 sold in the week ending Feb. 12.” Clearly that sales pace will slow considerably. But let’s add the sales of the last 2 weeks, even though the Soundscan figures quoted above for Just Whitney and I look To You have already been factored in. That would come to 348,000. That brings her total album sales under the 2001 $100 million deal to approximately 4.35 million units.

Let’s now subtract the 4.35 million albums she’s sold since 2001 from the 9.5 million albums she would have to sell for Sony to recoup its investment, and that leaves us with over 5 million. Let’s assume that going forward Whitney: the Greatest Hits will be the biggest seller as it has been since her death. It sold 175,000 units at the peak of the Whitney buying surge. If that could continue, which it certainly won’t, Whitney would most likely occupy the Number One position on the Billboard album charts every week for the next six months! As one label executive familiar with Sony’s accounting said, “That ain’t going to happen. The reality is that her estate probably won’t see a royalty check from Sony in our lifetime…at least”.

On top of the millions of advances, one of my insiders says that throughout her career Whitney consistently took out loans from the label with Clive Davis’ assistance. The last big loan was reportedly from Clive for $1.2 million, though everyone knows it came from Sony and not from Clive. “No way Clive would ever reach into his own pocket for anyone’” said one former label employee.

Let’s not forget that Whitney didn’t write any of her own songs nor produce her own records, thus excluding many millions more in royalties. Also she didn’t have a lot of endorsements or ongoing revenue streams like a Beats by Dr. Dre.

One Whitney insider said that there’s yet a bigger problem. Evidently the Whitney estate doesn’t have the brain trust that Michael Jackson’s has. “They just don’t have a smart guy like John Branca who would have marched into Sony the day after Whitney died and renegotiated the deal,” he said. “You can bet that the estate doesn’t even have coupling rights, and that’s something a guy like Branca would have gotten right away.” Another Whitney loyalist said that since she broke with her manager/father John Houston, there has been no other industry professional looking after het career–no one on a day-in-day-out basis to exploit any revenue opportunities or even coordinate with agents, the label, marketing departments, etc. ”Do you have any idea how much she could have gotten for her sync rights? Nobody ever even thought about it”, he said.

If Whitney did die broke, as so many reports claim, many people assumed that her heirs would be well off from her record royalties alone. That’s just not the case. Not for a while, at least. She’ll be in hock to Sony for quite a long time. It’s almost like instead of a “death tax” Whitney will be paying a “Sony tax”.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #32 posted 09/27/14 8:54pm

FanofMusic84

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Whitney owned 2 publishing companies, movie production, co-written songs, produced music.

Estate is estimated to be anywhwere from 20 to 80 million. Houston family went to court to reduce Bobbi Kristina's annual payout with great fear she would squander the millions. Whitney wasn't in debt. Tax and debt collectors have not challenged her estate.

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Reply #33 posted 09/27/14 9:06pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

FanofMusic84 said:

^ Whitney's estate is estimated to be anywhwere from 20 to 80 million. Houston family went to court to reduce Bobbi Kristina's annual payout with great fear she would squander the millions. Whitney wasn't in debt. Tax and debt collectors have not challenged her estate.

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Bobbo Kristina only was left $20 Million by Whitney! The Houston family has ABSOLUTELY no say so on her fractions she gets at certain ages! Which she just got one on her last B-day....

Whitney already made sure of that.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #34 posted 09/27/14 9:35pm

lowkey

i was shocked to see whitney was living in that basic townhouse. a huge star like that sharing a wall with neighbors didnt seem right

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Reply #35 posted 09/28/14 2:28am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

FanofMusic84 said:

^ Whitney's estate is estimated to be anywhwere from 20 to 80 million. Houston family went to court to reduce Bobbi Kristina's annual payout with great fear she would squander the millions. Whitney wasn't in debt. Tax and debt collectors have not challenged her estate.

[Edited 9/27/14 20:55pm]

Bobbo Kristina only was left $20 Million by Whitney! The Houston family has ABSOLUTELY no say so on her fractions she gets at certain ages! Which she just got one on her last B-day....

Whitney already made sure of that.

you're just posting an article that Whitney was broke, now you're saying she left her daughter 20 million. Doesn't sound like broke to me.

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Reply #36 posted 09/28/14 2:56am

KCOOLMUZIQ

lowkey said:

i was shocked to see whitney was living in that basic townhouse. a huge star like that sharing a wall with neighbors didnt seem right

nod

She lost her mansion, she lived in with Bobby in New Jersey! It went into foreclosure! At one point she was living there with singer Cherelle(a close friend of hers that NO ONE talks about).

Whitney had stopped singing for YEARS! For reasons I won't get into on here. She went through her fortune. That is why she started borrowing off of her advance. Her publishing was depleted from her borrowing off of her advance.

She DID NOT write or PRODUCE ANY of her songs or mega hits! Which is the reason why her fortune & worth was so small. She did executive produce movies though. Like "Cinderella" with Brandy & the movie "Sparkle"(right before her untimely death). But an artist publishing is their bread & butter! She did not own her publishing anymore! Arista did. She depended totally on her $100 million advance which wasn't really hers. But just a loan. To me that is so sad!

That is why prince fought so hard not to be a slave to the muziq industry & own his masters and publishing. People keep saying here he is not a good business man. But that is far from the truth! prince owns EVERYTHING now! His publishing,masters & image. Clive & Arista pimped Whitney!

Leaving her daughter Bobbi Christina only $20 million(Which was her only dependent) speaks VOLUMES on her actual wealth. NO ONE else was left a dime from her. I think her sister in law/manager is the executor of her estate . But Bobbi is the sole heir.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #37 posted 09/28/14 9:05am

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SoulAlive said:

sounds like a boring project to me,but I'm sure the diehard fans will love it

Hell, when did she ever not make a boring project? lol

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #38 posted 09/28/14 12:13pm

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I love Whitney but Ugh! I can find all of this on YouTube. Nothing about this is new! Whitney never wrote any of her music so I don't expect to hear anything new. Its just Clive Davis making more money off of Whitney. I hope a lot of this money goes to her estate.

Gosh, I prefer watching a DVD, but I have already seen these exact "live" moments so many times before, even on previous DVDs while she was still alive!

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Reply #39 posted 09/28/14 5:50pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

nextedition said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Bobbo Kristina only was left $20 Million by Whitney! The Houston family has ABSOLUTELY no say so on her fractions she gets at certain ages! Which she just got one on her last B-day....

Whitney already made sure of that.

you're just posting an article that Whitney was broke, now you're saying she left her daughter 20 million. Doesn't sound like broke to me.

$20 million is not a lot of money to leave a daughter who is the only heir to her estate! Whitney sold over 200 million records, had sold out tours & was a bonafide movie star.. Although she did set aside a smal fortune for her only child. Her estate will not be profitable in her demise...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #40 posted 09/28/14 6:12pm

FanofMusic84

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

lowkey said:

i was shocked to see whitney was living in that basic townhouse. a huge star like that sharing a wall with neighbors didnt seem right

nod

She lost her mansion, she lived in with Bobby in New Jersey! It went into foreclosure! At one point she was living there with singer Cherelle(a close friend of hers that NO ONE talks about).

Whitney had stopped singing for YEARS! For reasons I won't get into on here. She went through her fortune. That is why she started borrowing off of her advance. Her publishing was depleted from her borrowing off of her advance.

She DID NOT write or PRODUCE ANY of her songs or mega hits! Which is the reason why her fortune & worth was so small. She did executive produce movies though. Like "Cinderella" with Brandy & the movie "Sparkle"(right before her untimely death). But an artist publishing is their bread & butter! She did not own her publishing anymore! Arista did. She depended totally on her $100 million advance which wasn't really hers. But just a loan. To me that is so sad!

That is why prince fought so hard not to be a slave to the muziq industry & own his masters and publishing. People keep saying here he is not a good business man. But that is far from the truth! prince owns EVERYTHING now! His publishing,masters & image. Clive & Arista pimped Whitney!

Leaving her daughter Bobbi Christina only $20 million(Which was her only dependent) speaks VOLUMES on her actual wealth. NO ONE else was left a dime from her. I think her sister in law/manager is the executor of her estate . But Bobbi is the sole heir.

Whitney was wealthy; lived modestly. She downsized after divorcing Bobby Brown by choice.

She owned a townhouse in atl, a home in antigua and a condo for her mother in new jersey. She wasn't broke by any stretch of the imagination. Briefly she lived with Cherrelle when sorting out matters with Bobby.After matters were were sorted, she moved into a house. 100 million deal wasn't paid in full, thus Arista wasn't owed. Bobbi Kristina purchases cars for herself and faux husband every week with no motivation for seeking work. Whitney estate included a quarter of a million in jewelry. No story of family needing finiancial assistance from Clive. Her estate is worth 20-80 million.

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Reply #41 posted 09/28/14 6:13pm

lowkey

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

lowkey said:

i was shocked to see whitney was living in that basic townhouse. a huge star like that sharing a wall with neighbors didnt seem right

nod

She lost her mansion, she lived in with Bobby in New Jersey! It went into foreclosure! At one point she was living there with singer Cherelle(a close friend of hers that NO ONE talks about).

Whitney had stopped singing for YEARS! For reasons I won't get into on here. She went through her fortune. That is why she started borrowing off of her advance. Her publishing was depleted from her borrowing off of her advance.

She DID NOT write or PRODUCE ANY of her songs or mega hits! Which is the reason why her fortune & worth was so small. She did executive produce movies though. Like "Cinderella" with Brandy & the movie "Sparkle"(right before her untimely death). But an artist publishing is their bread & butter! She did not own her publishing anymore! Arista did. She depended totally on her $100 million advance which wasn't really hers. But just a loan. To me that is so sad!

That is why prince fought so hard not to be a slave to the muziq industry & own his masters and publishing. People keep saying here he is not a good business man. But that is far from the truth! prince owns EVERYTHING now! His publishing,masters & image. Clive & Arista pimped Whitney!

Leaving her daughter Bobbi Christina only $20 million(Which was her only dependent) speaks VOLUMES on her actual wealth. NO ONE else was left a dime from her. I think her sister in law/manager is the executor of her estate . But Bobbi is the sole heir.

she didnt lose the jersey mansion, its been sitting empty for years, it was on the market but didnt sell so they took it off, it went back on the market this year and i think it was finally sold, her estate still owned that mansion in mendhalm nj

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Reply #42 posted 09/28/14 8:01pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

FanofMusic84 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

nod

She lost her mansion, she lived in with Bobby in New Jersey! It went into foreclosure! At one point she was living there with singer Cherelle(a close friend of hers that NO ONE talks about).

Whitney had stopped singing for YEARS! For reasons I won't get into on here. She went through her fortune. That is why she started borrowing off of her advance. Her publishing was depleted from her borrowing off of her advance.

She DID NOT write or PRODUCE ANY of her songs or mega hits! Which is the reason why her fortune & worth was so small. She did executive produce movies though. Like "Cinderella" with Brandy & the movie "Sparkle"(right before her untimely death). But an artist publishing is their bread & butter! She did not own her publishing anymore! Arista did. She depended totally on her $100 million advance which wasn't really hers. But just a loan. To me that is so sad!

That is why prince fought so hard not to be a slave to the muziq industry & own his masters and publishing. People keep saying here he is not a good business man. But that is far from the truth! prince owns EVERYTHING now! His publishing,masters & image. Clive & Arista pimped Whitney!

Leaving her daughter Bobbi Christina only $20 million(Which was her only dependent) speaks VOLUMES on her actual wealth. NO ONE else was left a dime from her. I think her sister in law/manager is the executor of her estate . But Bobbi is the sole heir.

Whitney was wealthy; lived modestly. She downsized after divorcing Bobby Brown by choice.

She owned a townhouse in atl, a home in antigua and a condo for her mother in new jersey. She wasn't broke by any stretch of the imagination. Briefly she lived with Cherrelle when sorting out matters with Bobby.After matters were were sorted, she moved into a house. 100 million deal wasn't paid in full, thus Arista wasn't owed. Bobbi Kristina purchases cars for herself and faux husband every week with no motivation for seeking work. Whitney estate included a quarter of a million in jewelry. No story of family needing finiancial assistance from Clive. Her estate is worth 20-80 million.

I'm not going to keep going back & forth about Whitney's finances on here. Its useless! Just like Mj's finances. But the difference with him is. ALL his debts was paid off after his untimely death. Plus his kids will be MEGA rich the rest of their life's. Plus he made sure his Mother Katherine will be well taken care of.

The living with Cherrelle in WHITNEY's condo is another matter I'm leaving alone. R.I.P Whitney

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #43 posted 09/28/14 9:19pm

FanofMusic84

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

FanofMusic84 said:

Whitney was wealthy; lived modestly. She downsized after divorcing Bobby Brown by choice.

She owned a townhouse in atl, a home in antigua and a condo for her mother in new jersey. She wasn't broke by any stretch of the imagination. Briefly she lived with Cherrelle when sorting out matters with Bobby.After matters were were sorted, she moved into a house. 100 million deal wasn't paid in full, thus Arista wasn't owed. Bobbi Kristina purchases cars for herself and faux husband every week with no motivation for seeking work. Whitney estate included a quarter of a million in jewelry. No story of family needing finiancial assistance from Clive. Her estate is worth 20-80 million.

I'm not going to keep going back & forth about Whitney's finances on here. Its useless! Just like Mj's finances. But the difference with him is. ALL his debts was paid off after his untimely death. Plus his kids will be MEGA rich the rest of their life's. Plus he made sure his Mother Katherine will be well taken care of.

The living with Cherrelle in WHITNEY's condo is another matter I'm leaving alone. R.I.P Whitney

Sorry, the statements are inaccurate. Different from MJ, Whitney wasn't in debt. That is a fact. She wasn't in finiancial shambles, IRS aren't garnishing monies from her estate. MJ was in finiancial shambles facing countless lawsuits upon his death. Bobbi Kristina is provided for the remainder of life. Cissy is provided for. Whitney's estate is in need of a John Branca neverthless the estate will collect monies with future releases.

The reports of Whitney co-owning the house was refuted by Cherrelle. It was Cherelle's home, she lived with her children.

[Edited 9/28/14 21:20pm]

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Reply #44 posted 09/29/14 12:57am

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FanofMusic84 said:

Sorry, the statements are inaccurate. Different from MJ, Whitney wasn't in debt. That is a fact. She wasn't in finiancial shambles, IRS aren't garnishing monies from her estate. MJ was in finiancial shambles facing countless lawsuits upon his death. Bobbi Kristina is provided for the remainder of life. Cissy is provided for. Whitney's estate is in need of a John Branca neverthless the estate will collect monies with future releases.

The reports of Whitney co-owning the house was refuted by Cherrelle. It was Cherelle's home, she lived with her children.

[Edited 9/28/14 21:20pm]

We may never know Whitney's financial status in The States and abroad. What we do know is that she Told Oprah that she took care of everybody in her family. The Mansion she bought for her Brother & Sister-in-Law is no joke...Days after her passing I watched a few members of The Brown family talk about Whitney on HLN network. They said the claims that Whitney was "broke" were never true. The Brown family said Whitney hid the Majority of her money overseas..Weeks later Cissy & her daughter-in-law went on "The View" and seemed quite sure of themselves when they assured the Ladies that Whitney didnt die broke...

Whitney "The Recording Artist" probably did owe money to the record label...I think most artists that sign with a label is in debt from day 1 cuz so much money is spent on them....A lot of people forget that Whitney has a very successful Production company that Produced for TV & Film...She seemed to be a Smarter bizness Woman than she was at dealing with her Demons...

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Reply #45 posted 09/29/14 8:27am

KCOOLMUZIQ

"Show me the receipts "! hmmm biggrin

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #46 posted 09/30/14 9:16am

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zzz

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #47 posted 10/05/14 1:07pm

FanofMusic84

Chancellor said:

FanofMusic84 said:

The reports of Whitney co-owning the house was refuted by Cherrelle. It was Cherelle's home, she lived with her children.

[Edited 9/28/14 21:20pm]

We may never know Whitney's financial status in The States and abroad. What we do know is that she Told Oprah that she took care of everybody in her family. The Mansion she bought for her Brother & Sister-in-Law is no joke...Days after her passing I watched a few members of The Brown family talk about Whitney on HLN network. They said the claims that Whitney was "broke" were never true. The Brown family said Whitney hid the Majority of her money overseas..Weeks later Cissy & her daughter-in-law went on "The View" and seemed quite sure of themselves when they assured the Ladies that Whitney didnt die broke...

Whitney "The Recording Artist" probably did owe money to the record label...I think most artists that sign with a label is in debt from day 1 cuz so much money is spent on them....A lot of people forget that Whitney has a very successful Production company that Produced for TV & Film...She seemed to be a Smarter bizness Woman than she was at dealing with her Demons...

Absolute. Whitney maintained her finances well in production and films. Broke she was not. Patricia Houston is ill equiped as head of estate.

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