I was never really that into Beyonce but Girlz is teh one song I really like from her. Infact more than Irreplaceable. I don't understand is why it didn't hit. It's the only fast song on the entire album.Atleast I don't recall it on Pop radio, if so it was for a short while.

Because it's too militant, too political, too overproduced/OTT, has no real flow or melody, is obnoxious to listen to, and is one sequel of "Independent Women" too many...and I say all that as a Beyoncé fan. I prey that she's done with the 'I am Oprah'/female-empowerment theme.

Because it gave people a headache

fluid said:

I was never really that into Beyonce but Girlz is teh one song I really like from her. Infact more than Irreplaceable. I don't understand is why it didn't hit. It's the only fast song on the entire album.Atleast I don't recall it on Pop radio, if so it was for a short while.

That is one of the few songs I liked by her also! I guess it was just bad timing. She has been struggling lately to find another hit. But I guess she finally found one, since "Grown woman" flopped. with this new promotion on a new single hitting in December,They pulliing out everything I hear for it..Since no female right now has a mega hit yet. Beyonce is a HARD worker! She deserves her success even with mediocre talent. Plus all races of people LOVE her. Which is all you need to happen to be successful....

I will agree she sings a little better than my girl Janet. But her dancing is no where near what Janet use to give! Its very amateurish. I preferred her songs she did with Destiny's Child better than her teeny bopper hits. I also liked her song "Party" from "4". Her Superbowl performance was way over hyped! It was nothing but a rehash of her tour performances. Which showed me she is NOT innovative at all. But she still slays all the other pop divas out now. Which really isn't saying much.

I'm just glad she decided put to her weave back in. She looks sexier with it. I know she was embarrassed when it got caught in that fan. lol But she was a trooper! Because she kept performing and didn't miss a beat.

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Fuck if I know.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

fluid said:

I was never really that into Beyonce but Girlz is teh one song I really like from her. Infact more than Irreplaceable. I don't understand is why it didn't hit. It's the only fast song on the entire album.Atleast I don't recall it on Pop radio, if so it was for a short while.

That is one of the few songs I liked by her also! I guess it was just bad timing. She has been struggling lately to find another hit. But I guess she finally found one, since "Grown woman" flopped. with this new promotion on a new single hitting in December,They pulliing out everything I hear for it..Since no female right now has a mega hit yet. Beyonce is a HARD worker! She deserves her success even with mediocre talent. Plus all races of people LOVE her. Which is all you need to happen to be successful....

Grown Woman did not flop because it was never a single. She hasn't released any singles for her 5th album yet.

"Grown Woman" was a promo leaked to the internet and radio. Just like "Bow Down"was. A lot of artist & record companies send or leak different songs to radio & social media first to see what will hit and catch on . No it wasn't an OFFICIAL single. I never said it was! But Beyonce was planning on it to be! She added it to her tour in a elaborate dance routine segment. But it didn't catch on! Just like "Bow Down" didn't. They both FLOPPED! The record company scrapped the new album & sent her back to the drawing board to create a buzz single. Which is coming out in Dec..I know what I am talking about!

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The same reason they thought it would be an easy hit is why it flopped:

It was based on Major Lazer's dance hit "Pon De Floor" which was so played out by the time Beyonce's copycat version was released.

"Grown Woman" wasn't a flop; it was never released. A snippet was used during her 30 second Pepsi commercial. The day the ad premiered, it was alleged to be her forthcoming single, but less than a few hours later Beyonce's camp denied that it was. There was no way to gauge public reaction THAT soon. The full leak of the song didn't surface until weeks, perhaps months, later...and to this day the authenticity of the full version is questioned. These days fans add to snippets. "Bow Down" was a half of a song that she put on her Tumblr account for fans. That was never supposed to be a single.

And she didn't scrap her album. Billboard.com reported gossip that her album was "scrapped" back in August, and being completely rerecorded...but now it's apparently ready for a December release. That's a bit quick to scrap a whole album, come up with all new music, record it and then have it ready to go on sale in December.

The real hold up on the album is Beyonce being on tour. She probably couldn't commit to fervantly recording a new album and promoting it like a new album has to be, all while trying to catch planes to play on stages all over the world. Her tour supposedly ends in December, and that's when new music is said to be dropping. That sort of proves that the tour was the hold up. Not "flop" snippets and allegedly scrapped albums.

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Only thing you right about is her being on tour has been the hold up! But Beyonce & record company thought "Grown Woman" was going to hit. Its the reason it was promoted in the Pepsi commercial. But it got less fanfare & was SCRAPPED! The album was already ready to go. But the record company felt the songs weren't strong enough! She had already recorded many songs before the tour started & was continuing recording during this tour. Artist can record and tour at the same time you know!

Her record company has really stood by her. Because these songs have actually not been her first flops since she left DC. That horrid song she did for Austin Powers flopped & Deju Vu was not well received as the first single for B-day. In fact her fans protested that the video be taken off the air period. I always felt Rihanna had better singles than Beyonce. But Beyonce is more classy...

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I dunno bout Beyonce. WHen she sings loud her voice is good. But her regular voice is OK. She did good on The Miss Carter tour with an ellaborate show. SHe needs better singles and maybe have her act together or tuned. I Mean Wendy Williams said she talks like a 5th grader.

"Déjà Vu" was a top 5 gold-certified single, and from what I can tell tends to be a fan-favorite. As far as "Work It Out" goes...so? That was a random soundtrack cut that was steeped in the 70's soul vibe of the movie, and most likely wasn't counted on to be a hit because of how atypical it was at the time. What does that song have to do with this conversation?

Sure, artists can record and tour at the same time...but they can't easily release new music with their schedule jam packed with tour dates, rehearsals and sound checks, leaving them completely booked and virtually unable to promote anything else. Beyonce's greatest hits tour was a runaway success out of the gate, with virtually every date sold out, with overwhelming demand for more legs and will close out the year in the top 10. Was she supposed to release brand new music on top of that? Something had to be delayed, and it wasn't going to be this cash cow. So there you go.

Who knows what the initial plan for "Grown Woman" was, the fact remains though that the song was never given enough of premiere for the public to form a positive or negative reaction for Sony Music to gauge and decide how to move on accordingly. As I said before, mere hours after the Pepsi commercial premiered with that itty-bitty snippet used, her camp was refuting it being the first single...with the general public still not having heard the whole thing. That doesn't spell "flop" to me, that sounds more like Beyonce not being ready to have this song declared a first single, which would have came with obligations attached that contradicted what she was already doing.

And however you feel about Rihanna's singles is on you. Glad you enjoy them, can't say that I do. My opinion that she and her music sucks; I'd sooner bury my head than be forced to listen to nonsense like "Only Girl In the World." From my point of view, all Rihanna is is a chocolate Bratz doll version of Britney/Katy Perry, with a more petulant attitude that she uses to cover up her lack of any natural talent or ability to do anything, really.

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