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Agree!
I really hate to see artists of her calibar revert to things like this but with Mariah its almost like a broken record with what her problem is It is a real shame though, i mean i used to be so into this woman but even i realized that she never really was a strong album artist, and i accept that but at least the singles or most of the work was somewhat interesting, but pretty everything with the exception of "Glitter" was all pretty much painting by numbers Mariah, but not even good stuff thats the problem, there is always a guest on these uninspired songs which is even worse, the fact that she gets help with this shows that she has lost touch. I look at a lot of the older artists that im into that just put out new records, Elton John, Joan Jett, Rick Springfield etc.... they all said the same thing during interviews "I know im not going to get played on the radio" and there work sounds so much more inspired than anything Mariah has done or been doing, Elton who's 66 over the last 15 years has recorded some of his best work, so i dont really get Mariah at this point, or honestly maybe this is the best she's got left. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said:mjscarousal said: Agree! I really hate to see artists of her calibar revert to things like this but with Mariah its almost like a broken record with what her problem is  I personally feel she should just stop recording all together since her heart is obviously not in it. She should just take a couple of years off, re group and maybe think about taking up residency in Vegas. I just dont understand how people who call themselves artists, come out with the same uninspired crap. Mariah has nothing to prove... she has the voice, she has the album sales, the classics, the critical acclaim etc. So not sure why she feels she has to chase the radio for quick hits that just water down her legacy. She comes off very insecure artistically... It is a real shame though, i mean i used to be so into this woman but even i realized that she never really was a strong album artist, and i accept that but at least the singles or most of the work was somewhat interesting, but pretty everything with the exception of "Glitter" was all pretty much painting by numbers Mariah, but not even good stuff thats the problem, there is always a guest on these uninspired songs which is even worse, the fact that she gets help with this shows that she has lost touch. I look at a lot of the older artists that im into that just put out new records, Elton John, Joan Jett, Rick Springfield etc.... they all said the same thing during interviews "I know im not going to get played on the radio" and there work sounds so much more inspired than anything Mariah has done or been doing, Elton who's 66 over the last 15 years has recorded some of his best work, so i dont really get Mariah at this point, or honestly maybe this is the best she's got left. ^^^Please, if Elton flops no one says anything he's a legend. Mariah flops and blogs everywhere shout, "Mariah's Over." Beautiful was a good song and got airplay. She's never been Joni Mitchell or Bruce Springsteen. She was always a Pop/R&B artist. I don't get what it is you keep expecting. | |
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She used to do songs like "Can't Let Go","Dreamlover","Always Be My Baby".....infectious,melodic songs that didn't rely on hip-hop beats and guest rappers.These days,she puts out crap songs like "Touch My Body" and "Obsessed".She should get away from those hip-hop producers and work with someone like Babyface! Get back to doing 'real' songs again. | |
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Vocally gifted, long-proven songwriter with remarkable staying power, and a fan base going back to the early 90s. What a colossal waste as she persists in chasing the youth demographic. | |
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The general vibe of the comments here are mainly pro-early Mariah, which are records generally conrolled by Tommy Motolla. When he was out of the picture, she started to do more of what she was interested in. So basically it seems that some want her to record music she might not be really interested in, which is really chasing people based on their age. If Mariah likes hip hop, why shouldn't she collaborate with rappers? It's no different than 1960's British Invasion groups (ie. Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Rolling Stones) working with blues acts like Muddy Waters because that's who they liked. When people like Kenny Wayne Shepherd work with B.B. King, I don't hear people saying, why is Kenny collaborating with an old man, or why does he record blues. He should make music that appeals to his age group, blues is old folks music. . I'm not sure how using Jermaine Dupri is chasing a youth demographic though. He's pretty much been out as long as she has, and I don't think he's a hot producer now. Even if she is going for the youth market, there is nothing wrong with that. The idea someone should just make music for old people or that they should behave or dress a certain way because of their age is ageism and/or a stereotype. There's people like Johanna Quaas, Ernestine Shepherd, and Ida & Shelley Keeling, who are doing things not usually associated with older age. Mick Jagger, Jackie Chan, & David Lee Roth are in better shape than some teenagers. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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I think she has been chasing her OWN youth, making these young ass records, but her work seemed most genuine/inspired by the 80s-ish Glitter, since that decade was her actual youth. |
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Agreed. I looooooong for another "Emotions" album. But, I don't think I'm going to get it anytime soon. She's not interested in doing that type of music any more. I still have have hope though, because I don't see her still recording with rappers when she hits 50. I think people on her management team will finally speak up and say, "Mariah, honey, no. You can not record that song with Lil Joe and Big Mo. You're an old lady now. 20 year-olds are not interested in your music anymore."One rapper (one of the greatest, if not the), and one producer (a telented one).... and people think this is half of the rap industry??
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She might not like Tommy Mottola, but him keeping a tight leash on her brought out the best of her vocally and as a performer.
Seems like now she's not that motivated anymore
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raffi said: lastdecember said:mjscarousal said: Agree! I really hate to see artists of her calibar revert to things like this but with Mariah its almost like a broken record with what her problem is I personally feel she should just stop recording all together since her heart is obviously not in it. She should just take a couple of years off, re group and maybe think about taking up residency in Vegas. I just dont understand how people who call themselves artists, come out with the same uninspired crap. Mariah has nothing to prove... she has the voice, she has the album sales, the classics, the critical acclaim etc. So not sure why she feels she has to chase the radio for quick hits that just water down her legacy. She comes off very insecure artistically... It is a real shame though, i mean i used to be so into this woman but even i realized that she never really was a strong album artist, and i accept that but at least the singles or most of the work was somewhat interesting, but pretty everything with the exception of "Glitter" was all pretty much painting by numbers Mariah, but not even good stuff thats the problem, there is always a guest on these uninspired songs which is even worse, the fact that she gets help with this shows that she has lost touch. I look at a lot of the older artists that im into that just put out new records, Elton John, Joan Jett, Rick Springfield etc.... they all said the same thing during interviews "I know im not going to get played on the radio" and there work sounds so much more inspired than anything Mariah has done or been doing, Elton who's 66 over the last 15 years has recorded some of his best work, so i dont really get Mariah at this point, or honestly maybe this is the best she's got left. ^^^Please, if Elton flops no one says anything he's a legend. Mariah flops and blogs everywhere shout, "Mariah's Over." Beautiful was a good song and got airplay. She's never been Joni Mitchell or Bruce Springsteen. She was always a Pop/R&B artist. I don't get what it is you keep expecting.How about a good album? If you think the last few or so are great then more power to you, but to me the last are all the same stuff, and that song with Rick Ross was possibly her worst , the track with Miguel was two and half minutes of Miguel and about forty seconds of her. And it was as forgettable as this new albums street date. Honestly if u think the media cares what she is going to sell your dreaming that was about 15 years ago when she was mainstream. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: raffi said: lastdecember said:mjscarousal said: Agree! I really hate to see artists of her calibar revert to things like this but with Mariah its almost like a broken record with what her problem is I personally feel she should just stop recording all together since her heart is obviously not in it. She should just take a couple of years off, re group and maybe think about taking up residency in Vegas. I just dont understand how people who call themselves artists, come out with the same uninspired crap. Mariah has nothing to prove... she has the voice, she has the album sales, the classics, the critical acclaim etc. So not sure why she feels she has to chase the radio for quick hits that just water down her legacy. She comes off very insecure artistically... It is a real shame though, i mean i used to be so into this woman but even i realized that she never really was a strong album artist, and i accept that but at least the singles or most of the work was somewhat interesting, but pretty everything with the exception of "Glitter" was all pretty much painting by numbers Mariah, but not even good stuff thats the problem, there is always a guest on these uninspired songs which is even worse, the fact that she gets help with this shows that she has lost touch. I look at a lot of the older artists that im into that just put out new records, Elton John, Joan Jett, Rick Springfield etc.... they all said the same thing during interviews "I know im not going to get played on the radio" and there work sounds so much more inspired than anything Mariah has done or been doing, Elton who's 66 over the last 15 years has recorded some of his best work, so i dont really get Mariah at this point, or honestly maybe this is the best she's got left. ^^^Please, if Elton flops no one says anything he's a legend. Mariah flops and blogs everywhere shout, "Mariah's Over." Beautiful was a good song and got airplay. She's never been Joni Mitchell or Bruce Springsteen. She was always a Pop/R&B artist. I don't get what it is you keep expecting. How about a good album? If you think the last few or so are great then more power to you, but to me the last are all the same stuff, and that song with Rick Ross was possibly her worst , the track with Miguel was two and half minutes of Miguel and about forty seconds of her. And it was as forgettable as this new albums street date. Honestly if u think the media cares what she is going to sell your dreaming that was about 15 years ago when she was mainstream. I don't think I know. There were plenty of articles written about how Triumphant flopped, and even more about Memoirs. You are one of those people that want her to do a jazz album. Has she ever said that she even likes jazz. She's doing the music that she likes. Get over it. All these paragraphs of holier than thou teeth gnashing is grating. | |
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Mariah broke the silence:
http://www.billboard.com/...fan-letter
Mariah Carey Addresses Album Wait, Shoulder Injury in Fan Letter
Mariah Carey's full-length follow-up to 2009's "Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel" was on course for a July 23 release, but in late June, the singer delayed the album release indefinitely and was then hospitalized for a shoulder injury in early July. On Friday (Oct. 11), Carey gave fans an encouraging update on her injury and addressed the longer-than-expected wait for new music in a letter to fans on her Facebook page. "The last three months of my life have not been easy," Carey wrote. "Getting through this injury has been the toughest experience of my life. It took me three months to get to this point but thank God I was able to recover and get my arm back." On July 7, Carey suffered an injury in New York while filming a video for the "#Beautiful" remix, featuring Young Jeezy. The original version of "#Beautiful," a duet with Miguel, peaked at No. 15 on the Hot 100 chart, and Carey announced a July 23 album release date in early June.
"When people expected me to go 'Here I am, I'm back and everything's great!', it didn't happen because my hand was still in tremendous pain and it took this long for it to heal," Carey continued. "I've been working day and night, and it took a lot of rest (though I did sneak in to the studio a couple o' times!) but I can finally say that I am on my way to a full recovery." As far as new music, Carey wrote that "a lot of excitement" would be reaching fans, "very soon." Earlier this week, music producer and frequent Carey collaborator Jermaine Dupri officially joined the sin...ement team. Read the full text of Mariah Carey's letter to fans below:
Hiiii lambs!! I'm so happy to be able to catch up with everybody here on Facebook. The last three months of my life have not been easy. Getting through this injury has been the toughest experience of my life. It took me three months to get to this point but thank God I was able to recover and get my arm back. It's a huge deal, it should have taken eight months and even my doctors can't believe it. It's been a long journey, the physical therapists have been incredible and I am very grateful to all of them for helping me. When people expected me to go "Here I am, I'm back and everything's great!", it didn't happen because my hand was still in tremendous pain and it took this long for it to heal. I've been working day and night, and it took a lot of rest (though I did sneak in to the studio a couple o' times!) but I can finally say that I am on my way to a full recovery. There's a lot of excitement that I'm going to reveal to you very soon, and sooner than you know it, you're going to understand why but more than that, you're going to feel what I've been feeling for the past- not three months- but three years. This is, to me, one of the most important albums I've ever made in my life. If you're a lamb, a fan, or just a human being that needs to feel good, happy, sad, miserable, joyous... "I gotcha" (said like Roc- you haven't heard how he says it yet but you will soon, it's a complete+total classic!) LYM!!!! --MC
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raffi said: lastdecember said: How about a good album? If you think the last few or so are great then more power to you, but to me the last are all the same stuff, and that song with Rick Ross was possibly her worst , the track with Miguel was two and half minutes of Miguel and about forty seconds of her. And it was as forgettable as this new albums street date. Honestly if u think the media cares what she is going to sell your dreaming that was about 15 years ago when she was mainstream. I don't think I know. There were plenty of articles written about how Triumphant flopped, and even more about Memoirs. You are one of those people that want her to do a jazz album. Has she ever said that she even likes jazz. She's doing the music that she likes. Get over it. All these paragraphs of holier than thou teeth gnashing is grating. That's what has been said. A lot of us has been over her. I stopped caring after Mimi. Let her continue to do the dick raps. I'm not interested anymore. I'm more interested in MC Lyte these days. And no one here would ever expect or want Mariah to do a jazz album. Don't laugh at my funk
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I agree.Under his guidance,she recorded songs that are now considered classics.We can't say the same about most of her recent work. | |
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Did you guys know Tommy Motolla managed Hall & Oates and led them to great success in the eighties portion of their career? His strategy was always cross-genre radio play. It seems Mariah still understands that much. She always has a remix that is aimed at another format. I think people prefer the songs that appealed to various formats without the formulaic "add a rapper, stir" recipe. But then people were shitting on her R&B cover of "I Want To Know What Love Is" too! That was on Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel, and did not include Tommy Motolla's input. |
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She's actually releasing a new single before year's end. | |
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It better not be another video from her Christmas album!! |
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