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Hendrix Sought McCartney for Supergroup with Miles Davis





May 10, 2013

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It's long been known that Jimi Hendrix and Miles Davis were making plans to record together the year before Hendrix's death in 1970, but it turns out the pioneering guitarist and jazz trumpeter were hoping that Paul McCartney would join them on bass. Hendrix, Davis and jazz drummer Tony Williams sent a telegram on Oct. 21, 1969, to the Beatles' Apple Records, hoping to get McCartney in for a session.


"We are recording and LP together this weekend in NewYork [sic]," reads the note, according to The Associated Press. "How about coming in to play bass stop call Alvan Douglas 212-5812212. Peace Jimi Hendrix Miles Davis Tony Williams."


It's unclear if McCartney was aware of the request. The telegram advises him to contact producer Alan Douglas, and is seemingly an impromptu note asking McCartney to visit New York from London on short notice. Beatles aide Peter Brown responded the next day, telling Hendrix and Davis that McCartney was out on vacation and wasn't expected back for two weeks.


The telegram was poorly timed for McCartney. That same day, DJ Roby Yonge from New York's WABC furthered the rumor that McCartney had died in a car crash and had been replaced by an imposter. The Beatles themselves were also dealing with internal strife that likely wouldn't have eased with a potential McCartney-Hendrix-Davis collaboration.


Davis said in his 1990 autobiography that he sometimes jammed with Hendrix at his New York apartment, but finances and busy schedules prevented them from entering the studio. Hendrix biographer Charles Shaar Murray and others say Davis sought $50,000 up front for the session. Davis also wrote in his book that he and arranger Gil Evans were in Europe planning to record with Hendrix at the time of guitarist's death in London.


The telegram, a part of the Hard Rock Cafe's memorabilia collection, was purchased at an auction in 1995. But it's received more attention with the March release of People, Hell and Angels, a collection of 12 previously unreleased recordings from Hendrix. "[The telegram is] not something you hear about a lot," said Hard Rock historian Jeff Nolan. "Major Hendrix connoisseurs are aware of it. It would have been one of the most insane supergroups. These four cats certainly reinvented their instruments and the way they're perceived."

The telegram is now on display at the Hard Rock Cafe in Prague in the Czech Republic.



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Reply #1 posted 05/10/13 12:05pm

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On the surface, it's hard to see how this could've worked as i've never heard of McCartney being involved in anything closely resembling a Jazz or Jam setting.
However, maybe there was something else planned and the outcome would have definitely been interesting to hear.



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Reply #2 posted 05/10/13 12:25pm

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theAudience said:

On the surface, it's hard to see how this could've worked as i've never heard of McCartney being involved in anything closely resembling a Jazz or Jam setting.
However, maybe there was something else planned and the outcome would have definitely been interesting to hear.



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This is fascinating find. I'm sure Jimi was aware of most of the big rock/ jazz rock bass players of the day, eg. Jack Bruce (who Jimi jammed with in 1968), Dave Holland (and who may have jammed with Jimi in 1969 IIRC), but the fact that at one point he wanted McCartney for some kind of recording project with he and Miles ... eek

Actually, while I agree that Paul is not the kind of virtuosic jazz rock bass player one might expect from such a collective, I know that both Jimi and Paul were fans of James Jamerson and Paul was apparently influenced by Jamerson in his bass playing ...

And Paul does have a little known jam rock side that has come out on a couple of his albums as The Fireman with Youth, original bassist with Killing Joke. And knowing that Jimi's taste in bass players was more for the 'in-the-pocket', feet on the ground bass part (witness Billy Cox and Noel Redding) while he and the drummer fly off somewhere, rather than a flashy, 10 notes a second type (which wasn't needed with Jimi around anyway), maybe that was what Jimi was hoping to get from McCartney, with Paul's added melodicism.

Lord knows what Miles would have made of jamming/ recording with McCartney in the studio! The mind boggles! cool

This find also fits in with Jimi's amm-encompassing pan-musical vision for humanity to have a group like that for a project. I'd have loved to have heard what this band would have come up with. Wonder who Jimi had in mind for the drummer?

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[Edited 5/10/13 12:25pm]

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Reply #3 posted 05/10/13 1:44pm

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Miles said:

theAudience said:

On the surface, it's hard to see how this could've worked as i've never heard of McCartney being involved in anything closely resembling a Jazz or Jam setting.
However, maybe there was something else planned and the outcome would have definitely been interesting to hear.



[colo/r=darkblue]Music for adventurous listeners[/color]

tA

peace Tribal Records

This is fascinating find. I'm sure Jimi was aware of most of the big rock/ jazz rock bass players of the day, eg. Jack Bruce (who Jimi jammed with in 1968), Dave Holland (and who may have jammed with Jimi in 1969 IIRC), but the fact that at one point he wanted McCartney for some kind of recording project with he and Miles ... eek

Actually, while I agree that Paul is not the kind of virtuosic jazz rock bass player one might expect from such a collective, I know that both Jimi and Paul were fans of James Jamerson and Paul was apparently influenced by Jamerson in his bass playing ...

And Paul does have a little known jam rock side that has come out on a couple of his albums as The Fireman with Youth, original bassist with Killing Joke. And knowing that Jimi's taste in bass players was more for the 'in-the-pocket', feet on the ground bass part (witness Billy Cox and Noel Redding) while he and the drummer fly off somewhere, rather than a flashy, 10 notes a second type (which wasn't needed with Jimi around anyway), maybe that was what Jimi was hoping to get from McCartney, with Paul's added melodicism.

Lord knows what Miles would have made of jamming/ recording with McCartney in the studio! The mind boggles! cool

This find also fits in with Jimi's amm-encompassing pan-musical vision for humanity to have a group like that for a project. I'd have loved to have heard what this band would have come up with. Wonder who Jimi had in mind for the drummer?

.

[Edited 5/10/13 12:25pm]

Someone is not paying attention. razz

It's long been known that Jimi Hendrix and Miles Davis were making plans to record together the year before Hendrix's death in 1970, but it turns out the pioneering guitarist and jazz trumpeter were hoping that Paul McCartney would join them on bass. Hendrix, Davis and jazz drummer Tony Williams sent a telegram on Oct. 21, 1969, to the Beatles' Apple Records, hoping to get McCartney in for a session.

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