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Thread started 04/06/13 2:14pm

Annika

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Book recommendations - Culture Club?

Just wondering if anyone could recommend any good biographies of Culture Club? I'm having a hard time finding something that isn't just a Boy George biography in disguise...
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Reply #1 posted 04/06/13 3:09pm

Glindathegood

Well, it's not just about Culture Club, but about that whole time period of British new wave, but I would recommend Like Punk Never Happened by Dave Rimmer. It does have extensive stuff on Culture Club and covers all four members of the band, not just Boy George. It actually gives a much fairer well rounded picture of Culture Club, than Boy George's autobiography who to me tends to be very self serving on Boy George's part and demeans the other members of the band and their contributions. I would definitely recommend you get Like Punk Never Happened if you have any interest in that whole time period of music.

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Reply #2 posted 04/06/13 3:20pm

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Thank you, I'll look it up!The reason I'm asking is actually because I just started reading Boy George's autobiography, and I'd be curious to understand what the band dynamics were like from a different perspective. It's funny, because sometimes the tone seems to imply that he understands what an immature, melodramatic twat the stories he's telling make him look like, and is telling them at his own expense in a deadpan, self-depricating sort of way, and there are others where it's really not clear whether he realises in retrospect that he was acting kind of nuts. Also, I'm just curious as to how the dynamic would have worked in general, they all seem so different, especially when the band first formed...
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Reply #3 posted 04/06/13 4:01pm

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Annika said:

Thank you, I'll look it up!The reason I'm asking is actually because I just started reading Boy George's autobiography, and I'd be curious to understand what the band dynamics were like from a different perspective. It's funny, because sometimes the tone seems to imply that he understands what an immature, melodramatic twat the stories he's telling make him look like, and is telling them at his own expense in a deadpan, self-depricating sort of way, and there are others where it's really not clear whether he realises in retrospect that he was acting kind of nuts. Also, I'm just curious as to how the dynamic would have worked in general, they all seem so different, especially when the band first formed...

Interesting post. I have to admit that I probably have a minority opinion about George. Most people seem to think that he is this great guy and accept everything he says at face value. It's good that you're willing to question what he says and realize that they might be another side. Many fans after reading his autobiography kind of turned against the other guys in the band especially Jon Moss saying they were bad people and never seeing George's role in things. To me, he doesn't show much self awareness about how much of a jerk he can really be. Most of the time he tends to blame other people and try to make them look bad, instead of looking at himself.

Yes, the other members of Culture Club are very different than George in their personality. That doesn't make them bad people, just different. They are far less confrontational than George so I think they are reluctant to tell their side of their story. They are probably afraid of making him angry. He gets very angry and vindictive if anyone criticizes him. Also, they feel no one would listen to their side of the story since so many people see the band as just George and act like they don't matter. The other members of Culture Club have always been far more generous towards him than he has every been to them in their pubic comments.

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Reply #4 posted 04/07/13 3:33am

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The part that really made me sit back and go 'wait...' is where he's essentially trapped this guy Gary he fooled around with drunk a couple of times into being his boyfriend. He freely admits that he manipulated the situation like crazy (making sure the guy couldn't make the last train, keeping women he might like from getting too close), which to me indicates that, now as an adult, he understands how crazy that was (he was only 16 or 17 at the time). But then, in the next chapter, he talks with great bitterness about how hurt he was when the guy finally did leave him for a woman, and doesn't seem to be over it yet? I'm not saying the situation didn't majorly suck for him, and certainly the other guy was as much to blame. I can even forgive his behaviour (repeatedly throwing drinks at the woman, destroying the whole group's tickets home, trying to get them kicked out of where they were all staying) as a needy, insecure teen with an over-developed sense of drama, but the way he talks about it he still seems to think he was completely in the right? Or am I reading that wrong?Up until that point in the story, I really liked him, but now I'm not so sure. Your comment makes me think that I may have been wrong about him, which sucks (I freely admit that my initial interest in the subject came from watching Worried About The Boy - Douglas Booth plays him so warmly underneath the waspishness that I was hoping that had come from real life).
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Reply #5 posted 04/07/13 2:38pm

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Yes, I really enjoyed Worried about the Boy. But in that movie they definitely softened his rough edges and played down the bitchy side of him and made him seem more likeable than he is in reality. But I can understand why they did that. Who wants to watch a movie about a self centered bitchy person? No one. You want to identify with the main character in any film.

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Reply #6 posted 04/09/13 4:18am

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Yes, I suppose you have a point. I've stopped reading now, he's too self-righteous and I'm afraid it'll ruin the music for me. I think I'll just picture Douglas Booth while jamming to Clock of the Heart for the 17th time today. music

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