Cinny said:

I know I will be disappointed. H

e left it alone for so long that I am expecting something of a reinvention. But here he comes with same ol' Timbaland, "Suit And Tie" is boring to me, so I haven't even checked out "Mirrors".

I saw the CD in front of me for cheap and passed once already. He's gonna have to put out a single that is pressed into my ears, and then I will probably change my mind.

It's "Cry Me A River" 2.0 Cinny. You're not missing much. Timbaland practically uses the same drum pattern. Disappointing indeed.

Musicslave said:

Cinny said:

I know I will be disappointed. H

e left it alone for so long that I am expecting something of a reinvention. But here he comes with same ol' Timbaland, "Suit And Tie" is boring to me, so I haven't even checked out "Mirrors".

I saw the CD in front of me for cheap and passed once already. He's gonna have to put out a single that is pressed into my ears, and then I will probably change my mind.

It's "Cry Me A River" 2.0 Cinny. You're not missing much. Timbaland practically uses the same drum pattern. Disappointing indeed.

It is the same drum patterns.

Graycap23 said:

Musicslave said:

It's "Cry Me A River" 2.0 Cinny. You're not missing much. Timbaland practically uses the same drum pattern. Disappointing indeed.

It is the same drum patterns.

I stand corrected!

I haven't heard it yet. I didn't listen to the alst one either.

Nothing against him, just not my kinda thing. I do kind of like him especially as SNL host. But I'm sure I'll hear some of it soon enough without having to make an effort.

Nope

I haven't

a lil curious

but I think

it's safe to say I probably

won't get around to it

After listening 2 this last night in the studio................I confess.

I actually dig the new joint. I like every song except the 2 singles.

Me! I don't like the guy one bit so I'll never EVER listen to anything of his. I may not have a choice though since my mom is obsessed with him . Maybe she'll keep it quiet

smoothcriminal12 said:

Graycap23 said:After listening 2 this last night in the studio................I confess. I actually dig the new joint. I like every song except the 2 singles.

The 2 singles are the worst tracks on the new material.

I don't get why they chose those songs. U?

Graycap23 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Graycap23 said:After listening 2 this last night in the studio................I confess. I actually dig the new joint. I like every song except the 2 singles.

The 2 singles are the worst tracks on the new material.

I don't get why they chose those songs. U?

Musicslave said:

Graycap23 said:

The 2 singles are the worst tracks on the new material.

I don't get why they chose those songs. U?

Maybe he and his team thought those two songs were the most radio friendly and had the most commercial appeal.

What u think about those singles? I don't like either one of them.

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I don't need to hear Timbaland crunching on celery and snorting through a ballad again, so I am skipping Cry Me A River 2.0

Cinny said:

I don't need to hear Timbaland crunching on celery and snorting through a ballad again, so I am skipping Cry Me A River 2.0

You are doing yourself disservice.

Mirror is an uplifting poignant song of A= material.

Every artists should hope ot have Mirror in their catalogue to fall back on in concert etc.

rdhull said:

Cinny said:

I don't need to hear Timbaland crunching on celery and snorting through a ballad again, so I am skipping Cry Me A River 2.0

You are doing yourself disservice.

Mirror is an uplifting poignant song of A= material.

Every artists should hope ot have Mirror in their catalogue to fall back on in concert etc.

smoothcriminal12 said:

rdhull said:

You are doing yourself disservice.

Mirror is an uplifting poignant song of A= material.

Every artists should hope ot have Mirror in their catalogue to fall back on in concert etc.

lol Im just saying. Trust me Im shocked at myself for being a fan of this JT album but good music is good music.

I think folks are just jaded

It feels good to give it up to the punk ass bitch and not resist

integrity/black card/etc still intact

the whole album is great..not one bad song on there...and the good thing about it is its unapologetic about its rnb or disco roots rather....A+ album

whats wong with Mirro though? Its perfect pop

Cuddles said:

No CD. No mp3.

Graycap23 said:

Musicslave said:

It's "Cry Me A River" 2.0 Cinny. You're not missing much. Timbaland practically uses the same drum pattern. Disappointing indeed.

It is the same drum patterns.

.....which can be made with FL Studio.

rdhull said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

lol Im just saying. Trust me Im shocked at myself for being a fan of this JT album but good music is good music.

I think folks are just jaded

It feels good to give it up to the punk ass bitch and not resist

integrity/black card/etc still intact

the whole album is great..not one bad song on there...and the good thing about it is its unapologetic about its rnb or disco roots rather....A+ album

whats wong with Mirro though? Its perfect pop

It just feels lazy and cheap to me. Yes, I can acknowledge a catchy pop song that's constructed for mass consumption. The problem for me is it doesn't show growth. Instead I hear stagnation. Stagnation leads me to boredom.

That's part of the problem. It's too formulaic, or Pop by the numbers. There's nothing wrong with having a radio hit, but don't regurgitate something and try to sell it to me like its a gourmet meal.

Maybe the rest of the record shows more growth, I don't know honestly I haven't listened to it. To quote Kerry Washington's character from the movie "Ray", "I'm still waiting to hear what the real Justin sounds like." His sound is engulfed in Timbaland's studio. Where's the distinction?

Graycap23 said:

Musicslave said:

Maybe he and his team thought those two songs were the most radio friendly and had the most commercial appeal.

What u think about those singles? I don't like either one of them.

I think he played it safe with releasing "Mirrors". It continues with a sound that's already provided a hit for him.

I've heard the snippets of the album and wasn't impressed, so I won't be buying. I did, however, buy Suit & Tie...sorry but I do like that song Jay-Z wasn't needed on the track at all, but to avoid WW4 on this thread, I will leave it at that.

missfee said:

I've heard the snippets of the album and wasn't impressed, so I won't be buying. I did, however, buy Suit & Tie...sorry but I do like that song Jay-Z wasn't needed on the track at all, but to avoid WW4 on this thread, I will leave it at that. :lol:

Jay-Z has been on cruise control for I don't know how long. It's the truth. Ain't no shame

Musicslave said:

rdhull said:

lol Im just saying. Trust me Im shocked at myself for being a fan of this JT album but good music is good music.

I think folks are just jaded

It feels good to give it up to the punk ass bitch and not resist

integrity/black card/etc still intact

the whole album is great..not one bad song on there...and the good thing about it is its unapologetic about its rnb or disco roots rather....A+ album

whats wong with Mirro though? Its perfect pop

It just feels lazy and cheap to me. Yes, I can acknowledge a catchy pop song that's constructed for mass consumption. The problem for me is it doesn't show growth. Instead I hear stagnation. Stagnation leads me to boredom.

That's part of the problem. It's too formulaic, or Pop by the numbers. There's nothing wrong with having a radio hit, but don't regurgitate something and try to sell it to me like its a gourmet meal.

Maybe the rest of the record shows more growth, I don't know honestly I haven't listened to it. To quote Kerry Washington's character from the movie "Ray", "I'm still waiting to hear what the real Justin sounds like." His sound is engulfed in Timbaland's studio. Where's the distinction?

He's a pop star. Growth? He isnt Radiohead. If anything, he did grow with this one as he took a few chances with the length and changeups in the songs and the style of them. There is NOTHING pop by numbers about this record. At all. And it's consistant as hell. Nobody in the recent years is seeing this record.

missfee said:

I've heard the snippets of the album and wasn't impressed, so I won't be buying. I did, however, buy Suit & Tie...sorry but I do like that song Jay-Z wasn't needed on the track at all, but to avoid WW4 on this thread, I will leave it at that.

Of course listneing to snippets isnt going to get one into a record immediately. Come on now.

rdhull said:

Musicslave said:

It just feels lazy and cheap to me. Yes, I can acknowledge a catchy pop song that's constructed for mass consumption. The problem for me is it doesn't show growth. Instead I hear stagnation. Stagnation leads me to boredom.

That's part of the problem. It's too formulaic, or Pop by the numbers. There's nothing wrong with having a radio hit, but don't regurgitate something and try to sell it to me like its a gourmet meal.

Maybe the rest of the record shows more growth, I don't know honestly I haven't listened to it. To quote Kerry Washington's character from the movie "Ray", "I'm still waiting to hear what the real Justin sounds like." His sound is engulfed in Timbaland's studio. Where's the distinction?

He's a pop star. Growth? He isnt Radiohead. If anything, he did grow with this one as he took a few chances with the length and changeups in the songs and the style of them. There is NOTHING pop by numbers about this record. At all. And it's consistant as hell. Nobody in the recent years is seeing this record.

I was answering your question about the song, not the album. "Mirrors" is formulaic for him when the track and certain arrangements are from one of his first solo hits. I can't speak on the rest of the album.

So what is the deal? Is their no growth because he's not Radiohead or there is growth because he took chances? The change up thing was done on FS/LS was it not? I'm only asking because I haven't heard it yet.

Musicslave said:

rdhull said:

He's a pop star. Growth? He isnt Radiohead. If anything, he did grow with this one as he took a few chances with the length and changeups in the songs and the style of them. There is NOTHING pop by numbers about this record. At all. And it's consistant as hell. Nobody in the recent years is seeing this record.

I was answering your question about the song, not the album. "Mirrors" is formulaic for him when the track and certain arrangements are from one of his first solo hits. I can't speak on the rest of the album.

So what is the deal? Is their no growth because he's not Radiohead or there is growth because he took chances? The change up thing was done on FS/LS was it not? I'm only asking because I haven't heard it yet.

There is growth but the way you were it seemd like you expect a radiohead like change of The Bends to OK Computer like growth. So yes, there is grwoth and chances taken on the record. At this time it's the record of the year so far. Yes it is only March but I dont see anything save for D'angelo surpassing this.

Mirrors may be derivative of his past as yall are saying but he took it higher.

How anyone cant like the song is beyond me. Its poignant, uplifting, loving etc. Meanwhile some of you are decrying it because it has the same drum pattern as Cry Me A River.

methinks some of yall are dead inside

rdhull said:

Musicslave said:

I was answering your question about the song, not the album. "Mirrors" is formulaic for him when the track and certain arrangements are from one of his first solo hits. I can't speak on the rest of the album.

So what is the deal? Is their no growth because he's not Radiohead or there is growth because he took chances? The change up thing was done on FS/LS was it not? I'm only asking because I haven't heard it yet.

There is growth but the way you were it seemd like you expect a radiohead like change of The Bends to OK Computer like growth. So yes, there is grwoth and chances taken on the record. At this time it's the record of the year so far. Yes it is only March but I dont see anything save for D'angelo surpassing this.

Mirrors may be derivative of his past as yall are saying but he took it higher.

How anyone cant like the song is beyond me. Its poignant, uplifting, loving etc. Meanwhile some of you are decrying it because it has the same drum pattern as Cry Me A River.

methinks some of yall are dead inside

Wow! When you say ROTY are saying the song, "Mirrors" or AOTY? Either way, I think you may be suffering symptoms from JT's hype machine. (By the way, his marketing promotional campaign has been smartly implemented. I give him and his team that.) Like you said, it's mad early in the year. However, considering how cozy he is with the academy, your probably right.

Musicslave said:

rdhull said:

There is growth but the way you were it seemd like you expect a radiohead like change of The Bends to OK Computer like growth. So yes, there is grwoth and chances taken on the record. At this time it's the record of the year so far. Yes it is only March but I dont see anything save for D'angelo surpassing this.

Mirrors may be derivative of his past as yall are saying but he took it higher.

How anyone cant like the song is beyond me. Its poignant, uplifting, loving etc. Meanwhile some of you are decrying it because it has the same drum pattern as Cry Me A River.

methinks some of yall are dead inside

Wow! When you say ROTY are saying the song, "Mirrors" or AOTY? Either way, I think you may be suffering symptoms from JT's hype machine. (By the way, his marketing promotional campaign has been smartly implemented. I give him and his team that.) Like you said, it's mad early in the year. However, considering how cozy he is with the academy, your probably right.

Don't insult me with the JT hype comment. I know intergrity from pap believe me.

and what is roty.aoty

rdhull said:

Musicslave said:

Wow! When you say ROTY are saying the song, "Mirrors" or AOTY? Either way, I think you may be suffering symptoms from JT's hype machine. (By the way, his marketing promotional campaign has been smartly implemented. I give him and his team that.) Like you said, it's mad early in the year. However, considering how cozy he is with the academy, your probably right.

Don't insult me with the JT hype comment. I know intergrity from pap believe me.

and what is roty.aoty

Okay, okay. My bad. Just messing with ya.

Oh.... Record of the Year and Album of the Year.