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Reply #30 posted 03/04/13 10:46am

funkdoctorrock

70s was brilliant..everybody dabbled in different genres.Funkers rocked.Rockers funked.jazz funked and rocked and so on...progressive era..80s changed and watered things down for pop or rock audiences.r&b artists had to conform and have a non threatenin image or sound.crossover is a mutha..True r&b artists werent accepted outside of black radio.which is why rap was treated bad in those days..a passing fad..90s come and Rap and a hip hop sound was the norm for R&b acts.and rap is big ....real big.2000s come..Rap is bigger and dominates all musical genres..but now u can hardly distinguish r&b from hip hop.same producers.same sound..same artists.crazy.lol[list]
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Reply #31 posted 03/05/13 10:47am

gdiminished

I concede that the 70s was the superior decade even though I love the 90s sound. The talent roster during the 70s was enormous and folks weren't afraid to branch out and try new sounds and I always mention, the music education and culture of the time was far superior than what we have today. Folks seeing a live band today think seeing a band play live instruments and singing without auto-tune is a "miracle" while 40 years ago a live band with instruments was quite normal!!!

70s musicians grew up where musicianship and support was encouraged by playing in church, school, jazz clubs, rock bands, etc, they knew the basics of musical styles for the respective genres and that allowed their musical creativity to be endless. Jazz, Rock, R+B, Country, were the norm for artists such as a young Prince, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Kool and The Gang, etc.

Most of the late 80s-90s artists and big producers were great influenced by the folks I mentioned above.

Real musicians knew their craft very well and the production style and sound from the 70s is still rather fresh compared to the sample-based Hip Hop/R+B sound that we've been hearing for the past 20 years. The only reason the 90s sounded great is because those producers grew up in the 70s and sampled and idolized the decade they loved so much. Unfortunately, they failed to replicate that style and by the time NJS gained steam, it was taken over by Shiny Suit/Godfather Rap in the mid-nineties and it has been downhill ever since.

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Reply #32 posted 03/05/13 5:59pm

uPtoWnNY

Graycap23 said:The 70's CRUSH the 90's.

P-Funk, The OHIO Players, Steve Arrington, EWF, The Isley Brothers, Stevie Wonder, Bill Withers, Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Bootsy, Rufus, the Jacksons, the Commodores, Prince.........I could go on and on.

The 1990's were ok but about the only group form that time that could hand with the 70's is Mint Condition.

...and there it is. End of discussion.

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Reply #33 posted 03/05/13 6:36pm

Scorp

gdiminished said:

I concede that the 70s was the superior decade even though I love the 90s sound. The talent roster during the 70s was enormous and folks weren't afraid to branch out and try new sounds and I always mention, the music education and culture of the time was far superior than what we have today. Folks seeing a live band today think seeing a band play live instruments and singing without auto-tune is a "miracle" while 40 years ago a live band with instruments was quite normal!!!

70s musicians grew up where musicianship and support was encouraged by playing in church, school, jazz clubs, rock bands, etc, they knew the basics of musical styles for the respective genres and that allowed their musical creativity to be endless. Jazz, Rock, R+B, Country, were the norm for artists such as a young Prince, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Kool and The Gang, etc.

Most of the late 80s-90s artists and big producers were great influenced by the folks I mentioned above.

Real musicians knew their craft very well and the production style and sound from the 70s is still rather fresh compared to the sample-based Hip Hop/R+B sound that we've been hearing for the past 20 years. The only reason the 90s sounded great is because those producers grew up in the 70s and sampled and idolized the decade they loved so much. Unfortunately, they failed to replicate that style and by the time NJS gained steam, it was taken over by Shiny Suit/Godfather Rap in the mid-nineties and it has been downhill ever since.

this gives credence to the reality that more advanced technology does not guarantee greater productivity.....

this also gives proof that internet downloading was not the reason behind declining record sales, it was the quality of music compared to the golden era has not stood up and it gets worse by the year.....

if it wasn't for sampling, the industry would be finished.....

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Reply #34 posted 03/08/13 9:53am

namepeace

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:The 70's CRUSH the 90's.

P-Funk, The OHIO Players, Steve Arrington, EWF, The Isley Brothers, Stevie Wonder, Bill Withers, Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Bootsy, Rufus, the Jacksons, the Commodores, Prince.........I could go on and on.

The 1990's were ok but about the only group form that time that could hand with the 70's is Mint Condition.

...and there it is. End of discussion.

I hereby propose the Ndegeocello Amendment. Me'Shell's bass playing alone punches her ticket.

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Reply #35 posted 03/08/13 9:59am

Empress

The 70's by a longshot.

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Reply #36 posted 03/08/13 10:25am

Graycap23

namepeace said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:The 70's CRUSH the 90's.

P-Funk, The OHIO Players, Steve Arrington, EWF, The Isley Brothers, Stevie Wonder, Bill Withers, Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Bootsy, Rufus, the Jacksons, the Commodores, Prince.........I could go on and on.

The 1990's were ok but about the only group form that time that could hand with the 70's is Mint Condition.

...and there it is. End of discussion.

I hereby propose the Ndegeocello Amendment. Me'Shell's bass playing alone punches her ticket.

Can't argue with that.

[Edited 3/8/13 11:13am]

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