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3rdeyedude

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Timberfake?

check out the 1:10 mark of this performance on SNL

interesting that the media did not catch on like they did with Ashlee Simpson

go figure

[youtube/]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCnpZruNoo[youtube]

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3rdeyedude said:

check out the 1:10 mark of this performance on SNL

interesting that the media did not catch on like they did with Ashlee Simpson

go figure

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Cuddles said:

3rdeyedude said:

check out the 1:10 mark of this performance on SNL

interesting that the media did not catch on like they did with Ashlee Simpson

go figure

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ok, i guess you are right.......some people call it art and some people call it fake

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Reply #4 posted 03/23/13 11:40am

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He's just singing live over a backing track during the chorus. Seems to be pretty much the standard on TV shows these days. I don't see him trying to "fake" it being prerecorded - he's making it as obvious as possible.

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Reply #5 posted 03/23/13 11:49am

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Desperation is NEVER attractive.

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Reply #6 posted 03/23/13 1:03pm

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Backing track

vocals are layered

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Reply #8 posted 03/23/13 1:28pm

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She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo

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Reply #9 posted 03/24/13 12:10pm

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The new JT album is brilliant, and it's been hilarious to read all the bullshit on here the past week from alot of the knobheads on here. The beauty about it all is that, nobody gives a shit about your opinions and it makes zero difference and effects nobody, because frankly, nobody gives a shit about a prince fansite and a bunch of sheeple with no lives who come across as extremely bitter and full up on sour grapes. Your Madonna's, Janets, MJ's etc all had briliant teams of people behind them helping them. I'm a massive MJ fan and also like Janet and Madonna. They make pop music, they've not painted the sistine chapel or anything. Put your energy into something positive, and more importantly, get a fucking life for yourselves. Side note, it's fucking hilarious the way alot of you say "you Stan" for people on here. How fucking old are you people? 9?

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by all means whoever wants to talk about it fine but can we keep it to just 1 thread instead of 1 thread per day smile

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Reply #11 posted 03/25/13 9:36am

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let the negative reviews begin

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2013/04/01/130401crmu_music_frerejones

Boyz II Man

Has Justin Timberlake stopped growing?

by Sasha Frere-Jones April 1, 2013

As an entertainer, Justin Timberlake could follow an easier version of Frank Sinatra

As an entertainer, Justin Timberlake could follow an easier version of Frank Sinatra’s path, with a softer edge and fewer highballs. Photograph by Martin Schoeller.

Justin Timberlake has built a career as a singer and an actor by being genuinely affable. It’s a rarer quality than it seems at first—many television personalities strive for affability but end up looking maniacally suggestible. Timberlake began at age ten, in Millington, Tennessee, singing Al Green songs at talent competitions, before becoming a cast member of the “New Mickey Mouse Club” TV show. Stepping into puberty, he was the front man of the boy band ’NSync, which redefined popular, selling twenty-eight million albums.

Since ’NSync’s demise, in 2002, Timberlake has released three solo albums, the most recent of which, “The 20/20 Experience,” came out last week. After releasing “FutureSex/LoveSounds,” in 2006, he went on to star in such well-crafted movies as “The Social Network,” where he was plausible without being compelling, and in terrible movies like “Friends with Benefits,” where only his likability could save him. His endless tour through late-night TV has served his personality and wide smile much better: two weeks ago, at thirty-two, Timberlake became a member of the Five-Timers Club, joining Alec Baldwin and Tom Hanks as one of only fourteen people to host “Saturday Night Live” five or more times. His visible intelligence and apparent humility make him a tonic on television.

Onstage, Timberlake can be a remarkable dancer and a pleasing singer firmly schooled in classic R. & B. If the initial arc of his career mimics that of anyone, it might be Frank Sinatra, whom he cites as a fashion influence: a teen-idol singer who moved into acting and produced a series of recordings that have endured. Timberlake could follow an easier version of that path, with a softer edge and fewer highballs. But can we be content with good nature and hard work when something more intense seems to lie beneath the surface? He never promised us a great transformation, and yet we’re still waiting for it.

Only a churl would deny Timberlake’s joy in performing. If you want evidence of his physical eloquence, watch the video for his début solo single, “Like I Love You,” from “Justified” (2002). In the clip, he approaches his love interest in a parking lot, dipping both shoulders as he boxes her in—without touching—against a yellow car. Then, in the parking lot and at a club, Timberlake and his backup dancers execute the synchronized movements that ’NSync relied on: a little bit Bob Fosse, a little bit “In Living Color.” At the end of the video, Timberlake improvises with the producer Pharrell Williams, and there’s a looseness in his movements that bespeaks an easy kineticism. In that transition, you can see him grow up: he may not be Michael Jackson, but he has some of his fluidity.

Eleven years later, “The 20/20 Experience” has little of that elasticity. Timberlake has reunited with the producer Timbaland, who was central to both “Justified” and the follow-up, “FutureSex/LoveSounds,” which felt, at the time, like a peak in commercial R. & B. It was unpredictable, brittle, sumptuous—digital in texture but embodying real physical tension. On the song “My Love,” over chattering synth flashes, mouth noises, and a quiet drumroll, he sings about writing both love notes and symphonies. Thanks to the shift from airy falsetto to harmonizing, and the slow but propulsive beat, he sounded as if he were singing from about four feet above the ground. On all his albums, Timberlake often moves to his falsetto voice, because it works, and also, possibly, because his open, untreated middle tone is pleasant but not exciting.

There is a mild retro feeling to much of “The 20/20 Experience,” but nothing so derivative that it ruins the good parts. Sinatra’s ghost reappears when Timberlake poses with some now somewhat familiar vintage mikes. We get it—he knows that he’s aging. So can he pull off an “It Was a Very Good Year” or a “Summer Wind”? These are the songs of an older man, but they hint at the kind of depth we might soon ask of Timberlake.

He does not lack attention to detail. The mood on “The 20/20 Experience” tends to reread classic soul, and it suggests that Timberlake has heard the recent works of Frank Ocean and Miguel, which also carefully revisit old soul. Most of the synthetic zap and sheen of “FutureSex/LoveSounds”—which is heavily indebted not only to Timbaland but also to his co-producer, Danja, now replaced by Jerome (J-Roc) Harmon—is gone. Since that album had its share of throwaways (“Sexy Ladies,” anyone?), that’s not necessarily bad.

But the album’s first single, “Suit & Tie,” is widely acknowledged to be a misstep. At more than five minutes, it’s a single knocked slowly past first base at best. In the video (and it is uncharacteristically helpful to the song), we learn that Timberlake is friends with Jay-Z, knows attractive women, and has an iPad. After almost a minute, the track brings in a clipped horn section and a fleet, rapid beat, a bit like Chicago Steppers music blended with Earth, Wind and Fire. The vocal harmonies, like those on many of Timberlake’s recordings, are creamy and dense enough to distract you from what’s little more than a plea to put on a suit. O.K., sure, Jay-Z shows up for a superfluous verse, throwing in the telling announcement that it’s “time for tuxedos for no reasons.”

Timberlake does a better retro impression with an orchestra, like the one that leads us into “Pusher Love Girl,” a warm number that moves between an explicit downbeat and a gentle eddy. Again, he uses horns and harmony vocals to back up his voice, taking us into its highest register. But this song is eight minutes long, so we find ourselves asking questions that we might have ignored in a three-minute version. We get it—“pusher love . . . be my drug . . . hook me up, cause all I want is you.” But “pusher love”? Not “love pusher”? Timberlake circles the notion for a while, at low temperature, tossing in some mild and glassy guitar licks. We never get his voice alone, without effects or harmony backing, the element that would draw us into the desperation of this individual. The sounds glide between silky and chunky, but the sum is slack. Compare this with “What Goes Around . . . /Comes Around,” from “FutureSex/LoveSounds,” at 7:28 a song that’s almost equally long. That track is built around a string section nearly as big as the one in “Pusher Love Girl,” as Timberlake laments a woman who left him and may end up regretting it. The strings move in and out of long legato waves and punchier pizzicato moments, pushing against a loud, digital shaker sound. Deftly, the song pivots into a darker second section as Timberlake’s lyrics grow slightly angrier and, in the background, Timbaland chants, “What goes around comes back around.” This is not three minutes stretched to eight but an emotional arc that needs seven and a half minutes.

Timberlake’s current choices are puzzling, because the album also showcases fantastic strengths. There’s the slow-dance vortex of “Don’t Hold the Wall”; and “Let the Groove Get In” is a locomotive of a track, powered by a synthetic kick drum and a sample of vocals and percussion from Burkina Faso. The horns are here, again, as are trailing, hovering harmonies. Timberlake’s arrangement of vocal harmonies, given its prominence in all three albums, could become his greatest contribution. He might eventually secure a talk show, or an infallible sitcom, or simply tour endlessly. I play “The 20/20 Experience” for the sheer pleasure of its detailed sound. But since Timberlake rarely wants his voice to stand front and center, he might use his skill set to bring his Cinemascope vision of vocal arranging to records that don’t have his name on the cover. As he says in the intro to an early single, “Like I Love You,” “It’s just Justin.”


Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2013/04/01/130401crmu_music_frerejones?printable=true#ixzz2OZQEYOi2

to be honest, I liked his last record but it looks like that had a lot more to do with the producers than anything else

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3rdeyedude said:

let the negative reviews begin

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2013/04/01/130401crmu_music_frerejones

to be honest, I liked his last record but it looks like that had a lot more to do with the producers than anything else

jesus christ

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Justin Timberlake has built a career as a singer and an actor by being genuinely affable. It’s a rarer quality than it seems at first—many television personalities strive for affability but end up looking maniacally suggestible. Timberlake began at age ten, in Millington, Tennessee, singing Al Green songs at talent competitions, before becoming a cast member of the “New Mickey Mouse Club” TV show. Stepping into puberty, he was the front man of the boy band ’NSync, which redefined popular, selling twenty-eight million albums.

Since ’NSync’s demise, in 2002, Timberlake has released three solo albums, the most recent of which, “The 20/20 Experience,” came out last week. After releasing “FutureSex/LoveSounds,” in 2006, he went on to star in such well-crafted movies as “The Social Network,” where he was plausible without being compelling, and in terrible movies like “Friends with Benefits,” where only his likability could save him. His endless tour through late-night TV has served his personality and wide smile much better: two weeks ago, at thirty-two, Timberlake became a member of the Five-Timers Club, joining Alec Baldwin and Tom Hanks as one of only fourteen people to host “Saturday Night Live” five or more times. His visible intelligence and apparent humility make him a tonic on television.

Onstage, Timberlake can be a remarkable dancer and a pleasing singer firmly schooled in classic R. & B. If the initial arc of his career mimics that of anyone, it might be Frank Sinatra, whom he cites as a fashion influence: a teen-idol singer who moved into acting and produced a series of recordings that have endured. Timberlake could follow an easier version of that path, with a softer edge and fewer highballs. But can we be content with good nature and hard work when something more intense seems to lie beneath the surface? He never promised us a great transformation, and yet we’re still waiting for it.

Only a churl would deny Timberlake’s joy in performing. If you want evidence of his physical eloquence, watch the video for his début solo single, “Like I Love You,” from “Justified” (2002). In the clip, he approaches his love interest in a parking lot, dipping both shoulders as he boxes her in—without touching—against a yellow car. Then, in the parking lot and at a club, Timberlake and his backup dancers execute the synchronized movements that ’NSync relied on: a little bit Bob Fosse, a little bit “In Living Color.” At the end of the video, Timberlake improvises with the producer Pharrell Williams, and there’s a looseness in his movements that bespeaks an easy kineticism. In that transition, you can see him grow up: he may not be Michael Jackson, but he has some of his fluidity.

Eleven years later, “The 20/20 Experience” has little of that elasticity. Timberlake has reunited with the producer Timbaland, who was central to both “Justified” and the follow-up, “FutureSex/LoveSounds,” which felt, at the time, like a peak in commercial R. & B. It was unpredictable, brittle, sumptuous—digital in texture but embodying real physical tension. On the song “My Love,” over chattering synth flashes, mouth noises, and a quiet drumroll, he sings about writing both love notes and symphonies. Thanks to the shift from airy falsetto to harmonizing, and the slow but propulsive beat, he sounded as if he were singing from about four feet above the ground. On all his albums, Timberlake often moves to his falsetto voice, because it works, and also, possibly, because his open, untreated middle tone is pleasant but not exciting.

He does not lack attention to detail. The mood on “The 20/20 Experience” tends to reread classic soul, and it suggests that Timberlake has heard the recent works of Frank Ocean and Miguel, which also carefully revisit old soul. Most of the synthetic zap and sheen of “FutureSex/LoveSounds”—which is heavily indebted not only to Timbaland but also to his co-producer, Danja, now replaced by Jerome (J-Roc) Harmon—is gone. Since that album had its share of throwaways (“Sexy Ladies,” anyone?), that’s not necessarily bad.There is a mild retro feeling to much of “The 20/20 Experience,” but nothing so derivative that it ruins the good parts. Sinatra’s ghost reappears when Timberlake poses with some now somewhat familiar vintage mikes. We get it—he knows that he’s aging. So can he pull off an “It Was a Very Good Year” or a “Summer Wind”? These are the songs of an older man, but they hint at the kind of depth we might soon ask of Timberlake.

But the album’s first single, “Suit & Tie,” is widely acknowledged to be a misstep. At more than five minutes, it’s a single knocked slowly past first base at best. In the video (and it is uncharacteristically helpful to the song), we learn that Timberlake is friends with Jay-Z, knows attractive women, and has an iPad. After almost a minute, the track brings in a clipped horn section and a fleet, rapid beat, a bit like Chicago Steppers music blended with Earth, Wind and Fire. The vocal harmonies, like those on many of Timberlake’s recordings, are creamy and dense enough to distract you from what’s little more than a plea to put on a suit. O.K., sure, Jay-Z shows up for a superfluous verse, throwing in the telling announcement that it’s “time for tuxedos for no reasons.”

Timberlake does a better retro impression with an orchestra, like the one that leads us into “Pusher Love Girl,” a warm number that moves between an explicit downbeat and a gentle eddy. Again, he uses horns and harmony vocals to back up his voice, taking us into its highest register. But this song is eight minutes long, so we find ourselves asking questions that we might have ignored in a three-minute version. We get it—“pusher love . . . be my drug . . . hook me up, cause all I want is you.” But “pusher love”? Not “love pusher”? Timberlake circles the notion for a while, at low temperature, tossing in some mild and glassy guitar licks. We never get his voice alone, without effects or harmony backing, the element that would draw us into the desperation of this individual. The sounds glide between silky and chunky, but the sum is slack. Compare this with “What Goes Around . . . /Comes Around,” from “FutureSex/LoveSounds,” at 7:28 a song that’s almost equally long. That track is built around a string section nearly as big as the one in “Pusher Love Girl,” as Timberlake laments a woman who left him and may end up regretting it. The strings move in and out of long legato waves and punchier pizzicato moments, pushing against a loud, digital shaker sound. Deftly, the song pivots into a darker second section as Timberlake’s lyrics grow slightly angrier and, in the background, Timbaland chants, “What goes around comes back around.” This is not three minutes stretched to eight but an emotional arc that needs seven and a half minutes.

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Reply #14 posted 03/25/13 9:46am

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aazzaabb said:

The new JT album is brilliant, and it's been hilarious to read all the bullshit on here the past week from alot of the knobheads on here.

lol

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Reply #15 posted 03/25/13 11:30am

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Brilliant?

Kind Of Blue is brilliant.

Talking Book is brilliant.

Head Hunters is brilliant.

I suspect that some people have different definitions of brilliant.

Off The Wall is brilliant. 20/20 is no Off The Wall.

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Brilliant?

Kind Of Blue is brilliant.

Talking Book is brilliant.

Head Hunters is brilliant.

I suspect that some people have different definitions of brilliant.

Off The Wall is brilliant. 20/20 is no Off The Wall.

Why would anyone make that comparison?

Isn't Timbaland one of the producers? falloff

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Cuddles said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Brilliant?

Kind Of Blue is brilliant.

Talking Book is brilliant.

Head Hunters is brilliant.

I suspect that some people have different definitions of brilliant.

Off The Wall is brilliant. 20/20 is no Off The Wall.

Why would anyone make that comparison?

Isn't Timbaland one of the producers? falloff

"Anyone" could make the point that "brilliant" means different things to different people. Also, I respect Timbo as a producer. Constructing a good pop record and writing a brilliant piece of music are two different things. I'm just saying that 20/20, even within the context of what it is, would not be what I would call brilliant. My response was to this comment:

aazzaabb said:

The new JT album is brilliant, ...

I didn't hear anything brilliant on 20/20. I didn't hear anything innovative on 20/20. He has some well-constructed songs and you can tell that a lot of work went into some of them.

Brilliant was B. Slade's "Diesel" CD. 20/20 is what I would call "well constructed pop" rather than brilliant.

Call me crazy but I'm just not willing to lower the bar on brilliance just to accomodate Justin Timberlake.

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agree, certainly far from brilliant. Personally I do not dig anything with Timbaland in it. Maybe some Missy stuff. But over all it sounds the same and his voice effects make me want to throw up.

BlaqueKnight said:

Cuddles said:

"Anyone" could make the point that "brilliant" means different things to different people. Also, I respect Timbo as a producer. Constructing a good pop record and writing a brilliant piece of music are two different things. I'm just saying that 20/20, even within the context of what it is, would not be what I would call brilliant. My response was to this comment:

aazzaabb said:

The new JT album is brilliant, ...

I didn't hear anything brilliant on 20/20. I didn't hear anything innovative on 20/20. He has some well-constructed songs and you can tell that a lot of work went into some of them.

Brilliant was B. Slade's "Diesel" CD. 20/20 is what I would call "well constructed pop" rather than brilliant.

Call me crazy but I'm just not willing to lower the bar on brilliance just to accomodate Justin Timberlake.

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Tim-Blah-Lake

Justin Tim-blah-lake

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March 26, 2013

Just because Justin Timberlake can make you giggle with his box-wrapped dick and is seemingly inhabited by the ghost of James Brown does not give him the goddamned right to hijack both the news headlines and South By Southwest. Beaten into submission by the recent press onslaught, we streamed his new album, The 20/20 Experience. Our first thought: Dude take seven years to record a follow-up record and has absolutely no artistic progress whatsoever to show for it? This drowsy, color-by-numbers R&B effort not only fails to match its hype, it pales in comparison to the forward-thinking work of his less-drooled-over peers (see: Frank Ocean, Solange Knowles, Janelle Monae, Miguel). This is one singer who should stick to movies.

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Tim-blah-lake & Tim-blah-land

flip-fucking in a tree

3rdeyedude said:

Tim-Blah-Lake

Justin Tim-blah-lake

http://lasvegascitylife.c...-lake.html
March 26, 2013

Just because Justin Timberlake can make you giggle with his box-wrapped dick and is seemingly inhabited by the ghost of James Brown does not give him the goddamned right to hijack both the news headlines and South By Southwest. Beaten into submission by the recent press onslaught, we streamed his new album, The 20/20 Experience. Our first thought: Dude take seven years to record a follow-up record and has absolutely no artistic progress whatsoever to show for it? This drowsy, color-by-numbers R&B effort not only fails to match its hype, it pales in comparison to the forward-thinking work of his less-drooled-over peers (see: Frank Ocean, Solange Knowles, Janelle Monae, Miguel). This is one singer who should stick to movies.

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