Not saying this doesn't happen today. But it's crazy how many stars if the late 60s going into the 70s got away with what they did.

It bugs me how many artists have gotten away with sleeping with underage people. Like i was saying in another thread...

People actually listen to ignorant shit a washed up rocker like Ted Nugent says.... And he can be a proud pedophile(As stated on his behind the music & other interviews) And even marry more than once(One marriage was to an underage wife)

Jimmy page dated a 13 year old girl in Zeppelin heyday, Steven Tyler had a 14 year old girls parents sign over guardianship to him... after that did drugs with her & had sex with her for years... that eventually lead to her getting pregnet. And having an abortion all before she was 18

There are dozens of other stories where rock starts slept with underage girls, and many times tried to marry them or become the guardian.

How the hell did all this go in the 70s? i mean a lot of it was just right out in the open....

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They were doing it back in the '40s. It wasn't really a new concept. Even Aretha's minister preacher dad got down with a barely just turned teenage girl. Even Little Richard's bisexual ass got with a 16-year-old girl (Lee Angel).

Timmy84 said:

They were doing it back in the '40s. It wasn't really a new concept. Even Aretha's minister preacher dad got down with a barely just turned teenage girl. Even Little Richard's bisexual ass got with a 16-year-old girl (Lee Angel).

Don't get me wrong. I know it has been going on for A LONG time and still goes on.

But in the 70s these mofos had it writing.. where going around bragging ''omg look at this young thing''

It was just like EVERYWHERE in that decade... and people always say ''oh it was the crazy 70s''

''sigh'' that is one of the gloomiest parts of Rock history... from Richard to Lewis to Paige.... they are all guility of being with the young ones.

Different time...less conservative, pre-AIDS, before pedophilia was taken seriously, etc.... A fewhigh profile people got in trouble like Jerry Lee Lewis and Roman Polanski but for the most part it was tolerated in the music biz...especially groupies...

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

They were doing it back in the '40s. It wasn't really a new concept. Even Aretha's minister preacher dad got down with a barely just turned teenage girl. Even Little Richard's bisexual ass got with a 16-year-old girl (Lee Angel).

Don't get me wrong. I know it has been going on for A LONG time and still goes on.

But in the 70s these mofos had it writing.. where going around bragging ''omg look at this young thing''

It was just like EVERYWHERE in that decade... and people always say ''oh it was the crazy 70s''

''sigh'' that is one of the gloomiest parts of Rock history... from Richard to Lewis to Paige.... they are all guility of being with the young ones.

Don't forget Chuck though that one's suspicious because apparently all that was proven was the 14-year-old who got him locked up worked for his club so who really knows if he really did anything but yeah the rest of them... it's actually a part of rock 'n' roll terminology. It's always almost a badge of honor to say you got with a chick who was still in high school. B.B. King's song "Sweet Sixteen" was allegedly about his fling with a still-teenage Etta James, least that's what Etta said... James Brown dated (and whup) Tammi Terrell's butt when she was just reaching 17 (and got with another teen girl and got her pregnant but didn't claim her child).

purplethunder3121 said:

Different time...less conservative, pre-AIDS, before pedophilia was taken seriously, etc.... A fewhigh profile people got in trouble like Jerry Lee Lewis and Roman Polanski but for the most part it was tolerated in the music biz...especially groupies...

Yeah there were groupies that went together as mother and daughter so they were willingly giving up girls 13-16 to these famous men. The mothers also joined in.

Timmy84 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Different time...less conservative, pre-AIDS, before pedophilia was taken seriously, etc.... A fewhigh profile people got in trouble like Jerry Lee Lewis and Roman Polanski but for the most part it was tolerated in the music biz...especially groupies...

Yeah there were groupies that went together as mother and daughter so they were willingly giving up girls 13-16 to these famous men. The mothers also joined in.

That sort of pandering is still going on...

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Don't get me wrong. I know it has been going on for A LONG time and still goes on.

But in the 70s these mofos had it writing.. where going around bragging ''omg look at this young thing''

It was just like EVERYWHERE in that decade... and people always say ''oh it was the crazy 70s''

''sigh'' that is one of the gloomiest parts of Rock history... from Richard to Lewis to Paige.... they are all guility of being with the young ones.

Don't forget Chuck though that one's suspicious because apparently all that was proven was the 14-year-old who got him locked up worked for his club so who really knows if he really did anything but yeah the rest of them... it's actually a part of rock 'n' roll terminology. It's always almost a badge of honor to say you got with a chick who was still in high school. B.B. King's song "Sweet Sixteen" was allegedly about his fling with a still-teenage Etta James, least that's what Etta said... James Brown dated (and whup) Tammi Terrell's butt when she was just reaching 17 (and got with another teen girl and got her pregnant but didn't claim her child).

Oh yeah.. always wondered if the Chuck story was true

It's a rather dark part of Rock, R&B, Country.. hell any music history

A lot of these people i look up to musically are not perect by any means....

But i just don't see why you would want a girl who is 12 or 13?

I get a lot like the entire ''Oh she a young thang'' mentality. But these rock stars could have had anybody... ANYBODY movie stars, pornstars, musicians, athlets etc.

So why they are choosing to get with somebody who can't even drive yet is beyond me.

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah there were groupies that went together as mother and daughter so they were willingly giving up girls 13-16 to these famous men. The mothers also joined in.

That sort of pandering is still going on...

SMH some of the worst i heard are from Def Leppard

Idk about them sleeping with anyone underage.... But the groupie stories they told that involved mother-Daughter teams is

Didn't Elvis also date a 13 year old girl?

I think perceptions have changed a little. People used to get married at much younger ages, and money helps people get away with stuff.

Nothing's that different, though, R Kelly is not in jail, and do we really think Prince did not mess around with Mayte before her 18th birthday?

An interesting book about the music groupie scene in the 1960s and 70s is I'm With The Band: Confessions of a Groupie by self-professed groupie guru Pamela Des Barres. She should know--she was there.

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Gunsnhalen said:

Didn't Elvis also date a 13 year old girl?

They slept in the same bed (supposedly without having sex) until she was 18 and they got married.

NDRU said:

I think perceptions have changed a little. People used to get married at much younger ages, and money helps people get away with stuff.

Nothing's that different, though, R Kelly is not in jail, and do we really think Prince did not mess around with Mayte before her 18th birthday?

R. Kelly was caught on tape(People can try & B.S that it wasn't him.. but they are full of shit )

And there was a marriage certificate to an underage Aaliyah... and still nothing happened

As for Prince... yeah i have a feeling Mayte wasn't the only young thing he messed with.

NDRU said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Didn't Elvis also date a 13 year old girl?

They slept in the same bed (supposedly without having sex) until she was 18 and they got married.

Ok... now that is some I Love lucky 50s bullshit if i ever heard it

I can't believe they would try to make people believe that

Gunsnhalen said:

Didn't Elvis also date a 13 year old girl?

14 and according to Priscilla and those close to her, their times in bed resembled more of a slumber party than anything sexual. Elvis wasn't really sexually active in those days.

purplethunder3121 said:

An interesting book about the music groupie scene in the 1960s and 70s is I'm With The Band: Confessions of a Groupie by self-professed groupie guru Pamela Des Barres. She should know--she was there.

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OMG!

I Didn't read the book.... but i have seen many interviews & a documentary with her.

That chick got around she puts the videos hoes of the past 2 decades to shame

NDRU said:

I think perceptions have changed a little. People used to get married at much younger ages, and money helps people get away with stuff.

Nothing's that different, though, R Kelly is not in jail, and do we really think Prince did not mess around with Mayte before her 18th birthday?

Loretta Lynn was having babies and was married around 15, 16 years old so yeah things have changed. I forgot about Mayte. Didn't Prince get with Nona before she turned 18 too?

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Didn't Elvis also date a 13 year old girl?

14 and according to Priscilla and those close to her, their times in bed resembled more of a slumber party than anything sexual. Elvis wasn't really sexually active in those days.

I juts have a hard time believing that...

Plus i saw an interview with former groupies who said Elvis liked to act as if he was the most innocent boy. But that he got down on groupie action a lot

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah there were groupies that went together as mother and daughter so they were willingly giving up girls 13-16 to these famous men. The mothers also joined in.

That sort of pandering is still going on...

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

14 and according to Priscilla and those close to her, their times in bed resembled more of a slumber party than anything sexual. Elvis wasn't really sexually active in those days.

I juts have a hard time believing that...

Plus i saw an interview with former groupies who said Elvis liked to act as if he was the most innocent boy. But that he got down on groupie action a lot

I don't know. There were mixed signals about Elvis. There were also folks who bragged Elvis was either gay or bisexual because of his "relationship" with Nick Adams.

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Gunsnhalen said:

NDRU said:

I think perceptions have changed a little. People used to get married at much younger ages, and money helps people get away with stuff.

Nothing's that different, though, R Kelly is not in jail, and do we really think Prince did not mess around with Mayte before her 18th birthday?

R. Kelly was caught on tape(People can try & B.S that it wasn't him.. but they are full of shit )

And there was a marriage certificate to an underage Aaliyah... and still nothing happened

As for Prince... yeah i have a feeling Mayte wasn't the only young thing he messed with.

He got with Anna Fantastia (or Fantastic, I'm not good with the name of this Prince girl) when she was 16, gave her a present at 17 and right around her 18th birthday, wrote "Pink Cashmere" about her.

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

R. Kelly was caught on tape(People can try & B.S that it wasn't him.. but they are full of shit )

And there was a marriage certificate to an underage Aaliyah... and still nothing happened

As for Prince... yeah i have a feeling Mayte wasn't the only young thing he messed with.

He got with Anna Fantastia (or Fantastic, I'm not good with the name of this Prince girl) when she was 16, gave her a present at 17 and right around her 18th birthday, wrote "Pink Cashmere" about her.

damn Timmy! you know all the rock stars laundry

My head is spinning at some of these...

And i never knew Elvis was accused of being gay/bisexual

But that happens to most rock stars...

The only people i can think of NOT being accused of being gay/bi are Slash, Robert Plant & Stevie Wonder.. but i am sure they is some rumor out

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

R. Kelly was caught on tape(People can try & B.S that it wasn't him.. but they are full of shit )

And there was a marriage certificate to an underage Aaliyah... and still nothing happened

As for Prince... yeah i have a feeling Mayte wasn't the only young thing he messed with.

He got with Anna Fantastia (or Fantastic, I'm not good with the name of this Prince girl) when she was 16, gave her a present at 17 and right around her 18th birthday, wrote "Pink Cashmere" about her.

Seems like Prince took a page out of the ole Elvis hand book when it came to waiting (supposedly) for underage girls to become legal before bedding and/or marrying them...

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

He got with Anna Fantastia (or Fantastic, I'm not good with the name of this Prince girl) when she was 16, gave her a present at 17 and right around her 18th birthday, wrote "Pink Cashmere" about her.

damn Timmy! you know all the rock stars laundry

My head is spinning at some of these...

And i never knew Elvis was accused of being gay/bisexual

But that happens to most rock stars...

The only people i can think of NOT being accused of being gay/bi are Slash, Robert Plant & Stevie Wonder.. but i am sure they is some rumor out

Well I saw some pictures of Robert and uh, yeah I don't know if he hasn't been accused of some bisexuality. Slash was always fucking girls and Stevie was known for being a male ho around some pussy (he allegedly fucked all of Wonderlove with the exception of Deniece Williams). I don't know about Jerry Lee being accused of bi/homosexuality or Chuck. Most of the early rockers were really heterosexual to a default. Only Elvis and Richard raised flags, especially Richard. Both Elvis and Richard were perceived as androgynous by the media. Only homosexual/bisexual allegations around Marvin Gaye for instance was people making lame jokes about his real surname (Gay without the "e") and his father was a crossdresser (but also a heterosexual cheater on his wife). No one will ever accuse Ike Turner of being gay.

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

He got with Anna Fantastia (or Fantastic, I'm not good with the name of this Prince girl) when she was 16, gave her a present at 17 and right around her 18th birthday, wrote "Pink Cashmere" about her.

Seems like Prince took a page out of the ole Elvis hand book when it came to waiting (supposedly) for underage girls to become legal before bedding and/or marrying them...

And we make a big deal about a girl being underage, but Hefner was dating 19 year old twins (among others) with their father's consent. That is more twisted IMO than falling in love with someone under 18.

NDRU said:

And we make a big deal about a girl being underage, but Hefner was dating 19 year old twins (among others) with their father's consent. That is more twisted IMO than falling in love with someone under 18.

And he was already in his late 70s by then I think...

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

damn Timmy! you know all the rock stars laundry

My head is spinning at some of these...

And i never knew Elvis was accused of being gay/bisexual

But that happens to most rock stars...

The only people i can think of NOT being accused of being gay/bi are Slash, Robert Plant & Stevie Wonder.. but i am sure they is some rumor out

Well I saw some pictures of Robert and uh, yeah I don't know if he hasn't been accused of some bisexuality. Slash was always fucking girls and Stevie was known for being a male ho around some pussy (he allegedly fucked all of Wonderlove with the exception of Deniece Williams). I don't know about Jerry Lee being accused of bi/homosexuality or Chuck. Most of the early rockers were really heterosexual to a default. Only Elvis and Richard raised flags, especially Richard. Both Elvis and Richard were perceived as androgynous by the media. Only homosexual/bisexual allegations around Marvin Gaye for instance was people making lame jokes about his real surname (Gay without the "e") and his father was a crossdresser (but also a heterosexual cheater on his wife). No one will ever accuse Ike Turner of being gay.

Man, I'm still learning new stuff about old artists! That's one I hadn't heard before...

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

Well I saw some pictures of Robert and uh, yeah I don't know if he hasn't been accused of some bisexuality. Slash was always fucking girls and Stevie was known for being a male ho around some pussy (he allegedly fucked all of Wonderlove with the exception of Deniece Williams). I don't know about Jerry Lee being accused of bi/homosexuality or Chuck. Most of the early rockers were really heterosexual to a default. Only Elvis and Richard raised flags, especially Richard. Both Elvis and Richard were perceived as androgynous by the media. Only homosexual/bisexual allegations around Marvin Gaye for instance was people making lame jokes about his real surname (Gay without the "e") and his father was a crossdresser (but also a heterosexual cheater on his wife). No one will ever accuse Ike Turner of being gay.

Man, I'm still learning new stuff about old artists! That's one I hadn't heard before...

Yep, it's in Divided Soul. Apparently Marvin Sr., around the time his son was reaching his teen years, was starting to explore his femininity and would walk around the house wearing his wife's clothes and wigs. He wasn't gay though, just weird.