There is always janet's This Time and What About and Trust a Try, very, very underrated. But I hear MJ and Prince influences all over them anyways.... | |
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Everyone is inspired. Besides, I hear some of Janets infleunce in MJs music. Afterall, he was extremely fond of Rhythm Nation. He even gave Rhythm Nation to Rodney Jerkins. [Edited 8/22/12 9:45am] | |
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you always despise Michael in your posts ... never mind ... Joseph vs Michael, Janet vs Michael, Jermaine vs Michael
Yes, Janet popular (was) not only in the U.S. but also in some other countries, but it is not in the top league of the world success. This is also true.
I agree, but that's not saying a lot. 99% of the world's more normal than Michael ...
Wow it's sad. I think it's very very very few people (not fans of Jackson) will agree with your last statement.
Sorry, but MJ is clearly more talented than any of the other Jackson, it's not just an opinion, it is almost a fact of objective reality. | |
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Yeah I agree that it also applies to MJ and some of his younger fans aren't really aware either, but they just act different from janet fans about it. | |
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I can understand if someone prefers janet's songs to michael's, and though she's talented, michael is way more talented and in a class of his own. His singing, dancing and songwriting is superior to hers even though she's good too, although she cowrites most of her stuff and I believe her producers are more responsible for it than they get credit for.
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I have never pitted Michael against his parents nor his siblings, apart from Janet, but that was not of my own accord.
MJ is more talented, never denied that.
Those who are not fans of Jacksons, will not have dwelled adaquetly enough into either of their catalogues to come to a conclusion that I would take notice of.
Few songs she has written by herself. She wrote Black Cat by herself, which is a great song which topped both Hot 100 and Rock charts. So an argument that she is incapable of doing so, or that she claims rights unrightfully so, are false.
I feel her music spanned more genres, more topics, and is more versatile than Michaels. Her music has more soul also, and is easier to connect with as it sounds more genuine. But again, just my opinion. I feel, her albums, as a whole are better. Where as, Michael had individual songs which are without doubt superior.
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I will not write that I like Janets music, because it's not true. | |
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How did a thread about Janet get Michael involved?
Lawd....
I wouldn't be surprised if Janet is depressed or has emotional problems. The woman went through plenty of tragedy in her life...more than any woman should.
And if she is, it's really none of y'all's business. As if saying she has mental/emotional issues will some how discredit her as a person.
Get a life and grow some humanity, the lot of you.
The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl
"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror) "I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" | |
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Firstly it is important to really read posts before jumping the gun... if you do that you might have a clearer understanding of where folks are coming from instead of getting excited and defensive.
1) I have never said Janet was not a international superstar but if you notice in my post I said Janet fans seem to think Janet is this BIG international star......... which she is not and yes there is a difference between being a big international star versus being a international star. Janet currently is not a big international star as she was during Janet era, Velvet Rope era, and even All4U and some of her fans delusionally think she is and some even call her a global star which she never was to begin with.
2.) How are MJ fans the ones obesessing over Janet being normal? In each of the threads I have gone on Janet xone since way before you even joined the site in any Jackson related topic Janet has always constantly been referenced as the perfect Jackson that has done no wrong. This is not about the media and what the media thinks. This is about Janet forums and Janet fans. Lets please stay on topic.... this is NOT about Michael and we know you love bringing him up just to bash him.
3) Paula is just as much a big part of Janets dance choregraphies the same as Tina and I personally think Paulas impact on Janet was more important because Control era was the era that really made Janet be taken more seriously as an artist. That was not Janet first attempt at music. She had 2 failed attempts aT first and with the help of Jimmy/Terry she was able to break out and become a superstar.
I aint mad at Janet she worked hard BUT please GIVE credit where it is dued.
Paula has everything to do with Janets iconic CHOREGRAPHIES d it doesnt matter if it was just for CONTROL...those dances still have a big impact TODAY and PAULA choregraphed ALL OF THEM and is a trained dancer. Paula was a high in demand choregrapher during that period.
4) LOL Why are you bringing up Michael when this conversation isnt about him? What does Teddy Riley have to do with this conversation?
Janet fans claim Janet innovated New Jack Swing with Control. Do you know what that means? That is suggesting that Janet created a genre all her own and I am sorry but that is false.
Teddy Riley created the genre WAY BEFORE CONTROL EVEN CAME OUT. Jimmy and Terry saw that New Jack Swing was a popular mainstream genre at the time and incorporated that sound along with the Minnapolis sound in making Control and RN. So no Janet did not create the genre but along with quite a few other artists she popularized the genre.
5) I am not acting like I am surprised it happens. I was SHOCKED that a fan would say that about an artist that is the brother of the artist they admire but even if Janet and Michael were not related its a very disrespectful thing to say. And why are you minizing what was said... that was evil and nasty.
6) Its funny because its about JANET but all on Janet xone when they make reports that bashes the family the fans run to believe TMZ... so please quit with that bullshit.
7) NO sorry but that is false... I have heard countless and countless and countless times on some Janet sites that they are not Michael fans, bash him and even say that Janet is more talented and has better music... ALOT of this occurs on her forums.And when the VERY few standup for Michael they are labeled a stan, banned or bashed relentlessly.
8) How can fans be threatened by Janets success when Janets success is no where near what Michael has achieved? I am not trying to downgrade Janet but she hasnt been as successful as Micahel for MJ fans to feel jealous about anything
And if you feel her music is better than Michaels than that is YOUR opinion and while I disagree you are entitled to it..
9) I never made the comparision between Michael and JAnet.... I am just saying what OTHER JANET fans have said ABOUT MJ. I didnt say those things.
TVR is Janets best tour and I love it but it is not better than Michaels BAD tour or even the Victory tour.
The point is its my observation of Janet fans over the years and I have a right to express it on this message board... thats the point
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I agree
(Janet Jackson would become the first and only artist to be nominated in the Pop, R&B, Dance, Rock and Rap fields of the Grammy awards and would be the only artist to have a charted single on those charts including the Adult Contemporary charts where she has reached #1 with 1990's Come Back to Me.)
I don't disagree with anything you have said TBH.
BTW, are you a Madonna fan? [Edited 8/22/12 11:10am] | |
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For my mental health, I've decided to steer clear of this thread... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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I can not say that I'm a fan, but I like 3 albums and dozens of songs, I even had a concert recently. I think Madonna is a brilliant marketer with tremendous flair for what is necessary to the public, workaholic, but she is not talented as an artist, imho. | |
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There's just no talking to you. You will never meet a medium ground when discussing, instead you chose to go back and forth continuously. | |
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I see. I would like to see this list What is it that you dislike about Janet or her music? | |
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You can not objectively have a conversation about Janet or ANY Jackson without bashing Michael. That post was as rational as it gets. | |
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I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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My post was rational, strikingly mild in comparison to yours. And I did not bash Michael Jackson in it. So once again, there is no talking to you. You already have extreme and set opinions that won't change no matter what is revealed to you. | |
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The journalist who wrote this can't write well herself. But they still get paid to do so. [Edited 8/22/12 11:56am] | |
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Azz you brought Michael up a variety of times in your response to my post about Janet. You bring up Michael when it is unnessary to and most of the times it is to justify anything related to Janet. It was unnessary to bring up you thnking VR was better than Michaels tours.... it was unnessary to bring up Teddy Riley worked with Michael when most of my post was talking about what Janet fans have said ABOUT JANET not about ANYONE else... they were NOT my own opinions. You dont see yourself or realize it when you type. [Edited 8/22/12 11:58am] | |
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It's rock-oriented list ... in which 70-75 positions of the 100 occupied rock bands and artists. | |
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It was necessary to bring up Michael. As you are commenting on Janet, and Janet's fans from an MJ stans perspective. A perspective which you are blinded by. | |
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I see. I actually find that an endearing quality - on a track. | |
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Huh
Well maybe because THIS THREAD is about JANET and not Michael. and No it was not necessary to bring Michael up | |
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Awesome.... | |
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In simple terms: You only say what you say because you are an MJ fan. It affects and blinds your opinion on everything related. Therefore to adress the reasoning behind what you said about Janet, I must first adress why an MJ fan might say it. Comprehend? | |
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The Jacksons are one of THE greatest dysfunctional families of all times. | |
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JANET CAN SING UGLY! TOGETHER AGAIN ETC.. JANET BANK ACCOUNT SLAYS YOU UGLY! AND SO DOES HER TALENT. BTW JANET IS 43 YEARS OF AGE AND LOOKS 23! YOU UGLY APE!
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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