mjscarousal said:

errant said:

except sanity, the ability to show up to her own concerts, and actually put out music.

kind of counts for a lot when you make your living as a musician.

Yea but were looking at their material and what their artistic abilities are.

I dont even know why you even responded to me with this biased bullshit

You like to trash talented artists but glorify non talented ones. I like Adele but OVERALL Lauryn is the shit. Miseducation is better than anything Adele has put out objectively and thats saying alot because I like Adele. The fact that she hasnt put out any songs has NOTHING to do with the music she has put out, her past performances, talent and overall artistic abilities.

You dont know her and Im sure your not a licenses psychologist ..you dont have the right to diagnose anybody as being insane.... why not worry about your own life instead of judging the life of a celebrity you dont know and ignorantly making that your criteria on how good or not good she is.....

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I wasn't trashing anyone. I love Lauryn's music. But she's got some major problems that keep her from ranking very high on the artistic scale. The material is good, but barely existent.

errant said:

mjscarousal said:

Yea but were looking at their material and what their artistic abilities are.

I dont even know why you even responded to me with this biased bullshit

You like to trash talented artists but glorify non talented ones. I like Adele but OVERALL Lauryn is the shit. Miseducation is better than anything Adele has put out objectively and thats saying alot because I like Adele. The fact that she hasnt put out any songs has NOTHING to do with the music she has put out, her past performances, talent and overall artistic abilities.

You dont know her and Im sure your not a licenses psychologist ..you dont have the right to diagnose anybody as being insane.... why not worry about your own life instead of judging the life of a celebrity you dont know and ignorantly making that your criteria on how good or not good she is.....

[Edited 5/29/12 20:14pm]

I wasn't trashing anyone. I love Lauryn's music. But she's got some major problems that keep her from ranking very high on the artistic scale. The material is good, but barely existent.

No you implied since she was "insane" that she wasnt as talented or that makes her irrelevant... Your beyond judgemental and ignorant... What she is in her personal life which you know nothing about has nothing to do with her music or talent..

Bogus sales numbers...............

JoeTyler said:

mjscarousal said:

errant said:

mjscarousal said:

No you implied since she was "insane" that she wasnt as talented or that makes her irrelevant... Your beyond judgemental and ignorant... What she is in her personal life which you know nothing about has nothing to do with her music or talent..

The fact that she hasn't been able to write or record a second album does say a little bit about her level of genius. One album is not a great indicator of her overall genius, even if the album otself is genius. She's yet to prove that Miseducation was anything more than a fluke.

Unplugged albums and concerts??? I think Lauryn has undoubtly proven her abilities which is why her fans and people want her to come back so badly...

mjscarousal said:

errant said:

mjscarousal said: The fact that she hasn't been able to write or record a second album does say a little bit about her level of genius. One album is not a great indicator of her overall genius, even if the album otself is genius. She's yet to prove that Miseducation was anything more than a fluke.

Unplugged albums and concerts??? I think Lauryn has undoubtly proven her abilities which is why her fans and people want her to come back so badly...

I agree. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill proved that what she did on The Fugees' The Score wasn't a fluke. She had a lot to prove after Miseducation, true, but she has done more than enough afterwards. People didn't understand Unplugged 2.0 and it wasn't her fault. She went with her heart. How can anyone argue with that?

mjscarousal said:

errant said:

mjscarousal said: The fact that she hasn't been able to write or record a second album does say a little bit about her level of genius. One album is not a great indicator of her overall genius, even if the album otself is genius. She's yet to prove that Miseducation was anything more than a fluke.

Unplugged albums and concerts??? I think Lauryn has undoubtly proven her abilities which is why her fans and people want her to come back so badly...

Unplugged? That's a case against her genius. Tuneless songs that all sounded the same. They might have been alright if she'd applied her genius to them, but as they stand, they are unfinished and uninspiring.

As for concerts.... you obviously haven't read too many of the reviews of her concerts. Almost every single one is a rant on lateness, bad attitude, and not knowing her own songs.

silverchild said:

mjscarousal said:

Unplugged albums and concerts??? I think Lauryn has undoubtly proven her abilities which is why her fans and people want her to come back so badly...

I agree. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill proved that what she did on The Fugees' The Score wasn't a fluke. She had a lot to prove after Miseducation, true, but she has done more than enough afterwards. People didn't understand Unplugged 2.0 and it wasn't her fault. She went with her heart. How can anyone argue with that?

My ears can argue that.........it was NOT good.

mjscarousal said:

errant said:

except sanity, the ability to show up to her own concerts, and actually put out music.

kind of counts for a lot when you make your living as a musician.

Yea but were looking at their material and what their artistic abilities are.

I dont even know why you even responded to me with this biased bullshit

You like to trash talented artists but glorify non talented ones. I like Adele but OVERALL Lauryn is the shit. Miseducation is better than anything Adele has put out objectively and thats saying alot because I like Adele. The fact that she hasnt put out any songs has NOTHING to do with the music she has put out, her past performances, talent and overall artistic abilities.

You dont know her and Im sure your not a licenses psychologist ..you dont have the right to diagnose anybody as being insane.... why not worry about your own life instead of judging the life of a celebrity you dont know and ignorantly making that your criteria on how good or not good she is.....

Remember the other day when you said you never compare artists and when I challanged that you asked me to prove it.

PROVEN.

RKJCNE said:

mjscarousal said:

Yea but were looking at their material and what their artistic abilities are.

I dont even know why you even responded to me with this biased bullshit

You like to trash talented artists but glorify non talented ones. I like Adele but OVERALL Lauryn is the shit. Miseducation is better than anything Adele has put out objectively and thats saying alot because I like Adele. The fact that she hasnt put out any songs has NOTHING to do with the music she has put out, her past performances, talent and overall artistic abilities.

You dont know her and Im sure your not a licenses psychologist ..you dont have the right to diagnose anybody as being insane.... why not worry about your own life instead of judging the life of a celebrity you dont know and ignorantly making that your criteria on how good or not good she is.....

Remember the other day when you said you never compare artists and when I challanged that you asked me to prove it.

PROVEN.

I was not making the comparision to begin with I was responding to an already established arguement comparing the two...

mjscarousal said:

RKJCNE said:

Remember the other day when you said you never compare artists and when I challanged that you asked me to prove it.

PROVEN.

I was not making the comparision to begin with I was responding to an already established arguement comparing the two...

Cuz obviously you had to respond and make comparisons in multiple posts.

Still stanning for crazies I see.

RKJCNE said:

mjscarousal said:

I was not making the comparision to begin with I was responding to an already established arguement comparing the two...

Cuz obviously you had to respond and make comparisons in multiple posts.

Still stanning for crazies I see.

Listen I dont get your issue with me. No I am not going to sit up here and state that I have NEVER made a comparision in my life but for the most part on here I dont do that especially when it comes to past legends being compared to artists of today. In this thread I simply responded to a dumb comparision someone insisted made Adele better which I have every right to. You and others here are beyond ignorant in that you place an artist personal life above their music. The sad part is... you dont even know them or how they are off screen Suit yourself but dont respond to me with foolishness when you have an arguement of a toddler.

Graycap23 said:

Bogus sales numbers...............

Most def. She's been so overhyped and the industry pushed her for the last 18 months with adds about her album all the time! They try to make it seem as if she's a huge sensation and comparing her with great legends and calling her the new voice and all that shit, but we all know it's all hype. Her material isnt even all that good, in comparison to Jill Scotts latest album, Jill lyrically is superior to Adele (who doesn't write the lyrics like the press wants it to look like). Amy was a better songwriter than Adele and more real too.

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GoldDolphin said:

Graycap23 said:

Bogus sales numbers...............

Most def. She's been so overhyped and the industry pushed her for the last 18 months with adds about her album all the time! They try to make it seem as if she's a huge sensation and comparing her with great legends and calling her the new voice and all that shit, but we all know it's all hype. Her material isnt even all that good, in comparison to Jill Scotts latest album, Jill lyrically is superior to Adele (who doesn't write the lyrics like the press wants it to look like). Amy was a better songwriter than Adele and more real too.

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I agree. I wonder what the goal of this really is?

JoeTyler said:

I only know that

a) a brit has saved the industry after a truckload of shit coming from the USA

b) an electronic act has made pop music entertaining/fashionable once again

both female by the way

all HAIL Adele and GaGa

[Edited 5/28/12 10:37am]

But don't forget, it was a Scottish dame who sold more CDs than most not to long ago.