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Lionel#1 114k (added detailed billboard top 200 #s)

CHART DATE: 04/23/2012
LAST UPDATE: 04/24/2012 13:25:51
NOW IN: FINAL

LW TW artist / album label power index % change
1 1 LIONEL RICHIE MERCURY NASHVILLE 110,785 -13%
TUSKEGEE
-- 2 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 103,130 --
LOVE IS A FOUR LETTER WORD
2 3 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 88,472 -3%
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-- 4 TRAIN COLUMBIA 74,165 --
CALIFORNIA 37
4 5 ONE DIRECTION SYCO/COLUMBIA 53,764 -20%
UP ALL NIGHT
3 6 NICKI MINAJ YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 47,001 -39%
PINK FRIDAY... ROMAN RELOADED
7 7 GOTYE FAIRFAX/UNIV REPUBLIC 41,724 -21%
MAKING MIRRORS
-- 8 FUTURE EPIC 40,190 --
PLUTO
6 9 BONNIE RAITT REDWING 32,675 -47%
SLIPSTREAM
-- 10 JACK JOHNSON & FRIENDS BRUSHFIRE/UNIV REPUBLIC 26,966 --
BEST OF KOKUA FESTIVAL
9 11 ALABAMA SHAKES ATO 25,629 -35%
BOYS & GIRLS
8 12 RASCAL FLATTS BIG MACHINE 24,988 -39%
CHANGED
13 13 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 24,247 -5%
TAILGATES & TANLINES
-- 14 THOUSAND FOOT KRUTCH TFK 22,015 --
END IS WHERE WE BEGIN
5 15 MONICA RCA 20,004 -70%
NEW LIFE
-- 16 NEON TREES MERCURY 18,895 --
PICTURE SHOW
12 17 HUNGER GAMES: SONGS FROM DISTRIC UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 18,278 -29%
SOUNDTRACK
35 18 BLACK KEYS NONESUCH 17,705 +61%
EL CAMINO
24 19 ERIC CHURCH CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 15,910 +9%
CHIEF
30 20 THINK LIKE A MAN EPIC 15,189 +14%
SOUNDTRACK
19 21 SHINEDOWN ATLANTIC 14,910 -18%
AMARYLLIS
21 22 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 14,717 -2%
MY KINDA PARTY
26 23 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 41 CAPITOL/EMI 14,589 +3%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
-- 24 SWV EONE 14,502 --
I MISSED US
20 25 FUN. FUELED BY RAMEN 14,250 -16%
SOME NIGHTS
-- 26 CHRIS BOTTI COLUMBIA 14,100 --
IMPRESSIONS
-- 27 ERIC HUTCHINSON ATLANTIC 14,021 --
MOVING UP LIVING DOWN
27 28 WHITNEY HOUSTON RCA 13,803 -2%
WHITNEY - THE GREATEST HITS
16 29 MADONNA INTERSCOPE 13,765 -28%
MDNA
22 30 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 13,659 -9%
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31 31 BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN COLUMBIA 13,091 -1%
WRECKING BALL
28 32 DRAKE YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 12,468 -10%
TAKE CARE
25 33 SHINS COLUMBIA 11,914 -18%
PORT OF MORROW
14 34 PRINCE ROYCE TOP STOP/ATLANTIC 11,413 -50%
PHASE II
36 35 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 11,066 +1%
OWN THE NIGHT
15 36 OF MONSTERS & MEN UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 11,063 -52%
MY HEAD IS AN ANIMAL
34 37 SHAKE IT UP: LIVE 2 DANCE WALT DISNEY 10,796 -3%
SOUNDTRACK
37 38 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 10,779 0%
TALK THAT TALK
29 39 KELLY CLARKSON 19/RCA 10,387 -23%
STRONGER
23 40 MARVIN SAPP VERITY 10,113 -32%
I WIN
-- 41 THE CIVIL WARS SENSIBILITY MUSIC 9,265 --
BARTON HOLLOW
39 42 SKRILLEX BIG BEAT 9,030 -11%
BANGARANG
17 43 HALESTORM ATLANTIC 8,888 -53%
STRANGE CASE OF
38 44 KATY PERRY CAPITOL/EMI 8,876 -16%
TEENAGE DREAM
48 45 LMFAO INTERSCOPE 8,651 +2%
SORRY FOR PARTY ROCKING
46 46 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 8,588 -2%
RED RIVER BLUE
50 47 BRANTLEY GILBERT BIG MACHINE 8,206 +1%
HALFWAY TO HEAVEN
42 48 TYGA CASH MONEY/UNIV REPUBLIC 8,111 -17%
CARELESS WORLD
43 49 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 8,038 -15%
HERE AND NOW
-- 50 THE BAND PERRY REPUBLIC NASHVILLE 8,001 --

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Reply #2 posted 04/24/12 2:57pm

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Adele slipping. lol

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Reply #3 posted 04/24/12 3:06pm

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Adele slipping. lol

Excellent. evillol

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AsherFierce said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Adele slipping. lol

Excellent. evillol

lol

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Reply #5 posted 04/24/12 7:30pm

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Interesting blog post.

http://www.showbiz411.com...themselves

Madonna’s Numbers Speak for Themselves

madonna (4)

The Madonna fanatics are going crazy online. They’re not getting it about Madonna’s ticket or CD sales. Let’s address ourselves to the CD sales. As of this morning, hitsdailydouble has counted 54% of the total CD sales in the US. Lionel Richie and Madonna put out albums on the same day– March 26th. This morning, Lionel is at number 1 with 65,000 copies sold last week. Madonna is at number 28, with 2,575 copies sold. That’s including her ticket promotion.

Don’t kill the messenger.

“MDNA” is dead sales wise. Why does no one get this? Her tour ticket sales are better. She has sold 600,000 tickets in the US to about 35 shows. The total comes approximately to $1.4 million. Except for Yankee Stadium, most of the venues seat between 15,000 and 19,000 people.

The tour will be a hit, but not a mega hit. There are plenty of tickets for sale, but they will sell closer to the dates– particularly if there are good reviews from Europe and early in the US.

Madonna fanatics can believe what they want, but this is the state of affairs for artists of a certain age. Madonna is doing better than most. But let’s get real. She is old enough to be Adele or Lady Gaga’s mother. And the core fans–the ones who are bombarding my emails–simply have not bought “MDNA” in any substantial volume. The numbers are real and do not lie. If “MDNA” falls out of the top 50 next, where will it be in the summer and fall when Madonna’s actually on tour?

Check this captured page for Madison Square Garden in November. I could still buy 10 good tickets in Section 101 at 12:22 am. Case closed. Madonna fans, put your money where your anonymous posts are.

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Reply #6 posted 04/24/12 10:00pm

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Wow! Some reporter doesn't like Madonna but the truth is the truth. But congrats to Lionel!!!!!

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Im surprise that Mraz did that well. I stopped listening to him back in '02.

As for Vadge people aren't going to go to her show to watch her perform anything off the new crappy disc. Like the last decade of her tours they go to see the "greatest hits" and the set design. Its always funny cause so many of my queer associates say "well you don't actually go to see madonna." lol

N I think Goyte suck.

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Billboard 200: Lionel Richie Holds Off Jason Mraz, Stays At No. 1
by Keith Caulfield, L.A. | April 25, 2012 11:45 EDT

Lionel Richie's "Tuskegee" album holds at No. 1 for a second week on the Billboard 200 chart, shifting 114,000 copies according to Nielsen SoundScan (down 11%). The pop veteran blocks Jason Mraz from earning his first chart-topping, as "Love Is a Four Letter Word" starts in the No. 2 slot with 102,000.

Still, congratulations are in order for Mraz, as "Love" notches both his highest chart rank and his best sales week yet. His previous high came with 2008's "We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things.," which debuted and peaked at No. 3 with 73,000 in its first week.



Video: Jason Mraz Breaks Down 'Love,' Track By Track



Adele's "21" falls 2-3 with 90,000 (down 2%) while Train's "California 37" rolls in at a career-high No. 4 with a 76,000 opener. The band has claimed three previous top 10s, but this is the group's best showing yet on the tally. The album follows its last studio album, 2009's "Save Me, San Francisco," which debuted and peaked at No. 17 with a 27,000. That set spawned Train's biggest Billboard Hot 100 single, the No. 3 hit "Hey, Soul Sister."

One Direction's "Up All Night" holds at No. 5 (55,000; down 18%), Nicki Minaj's "Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded" falls 3-6 (48,000; down 40%) and Gotye's "Making Mirrors" is steady at No. 7 (44,000; down 18%).

Rapper Future debuts at No. 8 with his first studio set, "Pluto," selling 41,000 in its first week. He's released numerous mixtapes since 2010 and has notched eight hit singles on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. Two of those climbed all the way into the top 10: "Racks" (YC featuring Future, No. 6) and "Magic" (No. 10).

Bonnie Raitt's "Slipstream" slips 6-9 in its second week (35,000; down 45%) while Luke Bryan's "Tailgates & Tanlines" returns to the top 10 for the first time since September, rising 13-10 (28,000; up 11%).

Over on the Digital Songs chart, Maroon 5's "Payphone" rings at No. 1, debuting with a whopping 493,000 downloads in its first week. The track, featuring Wiz Khalifa, notches the best-ever sales week for a digital song by a group, surpassing the 464,000 rung up by the Black Eyed Peas' "Boom Boom Pow" when it debuted at No. 1 on April 18, 2009.

Last week's No. 1, Gotye's "Somebody That I Used to Know" (featuring Kimbra), falls to No. 2 with 463,000 (down 15%) while Fun.'s "We Are Young" (featuring Janelle Monae) drops a rung to No. 3 with 251,000 (down 25%).

Justin Bieber's "Boyfriend" holds at No. 4 (235,000; down 8%), Carly Rae Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe" is steady at No. 5 (221,000; down 3%) and One Direction's "What Makes You Beautiful" slips 3-6 (196,000; down 27%).

Flo Rida's "Wild Ones" (featuring Sia) is a non-mover at No. 7 (170,000; down 9%), Nicki Minaj's "Starships" falls 6-8 (152,000; down 25%), the Wanted's "Glad You Came" is down one to No. 9 (148,000; down 18%) and Train's "Drive By" rises 12-10 (146,000; up 23%).

The chart's second-highest debut arrives at No. 11, where Linkin Park's "Burn It Down" debuts with 115,000. It's the first single from the band's forthcoming album "Living Things," due out June 26.

Data regarding overall market volume is delayed at the present and will be added to this story at the earliest possible time.

Next week's Billboard 200 competes with the same week in 2011 when: Adele's "21" held at No. 1 with 124,000 (down 19%) while the chart's highest debut was way down at No. 16. That was where Explosions in the Sky's "Take Care, Take Care, Take Care" bowed with 19,000.

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Reply #9 posted 04/25/12 9:21am

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Does that mean that Lionel's gold now?

I know he's probably somewhere with his accountant going "OUTRAGEOUS! "

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Reply #10 posted 04/25/12 9:22am

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Also interesting is that Adele's climb down is less steeper on Soundscan than it is on HITS. It's still doing 90K. falloff I call that impressive.

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Reply #11 posted 04/25/12 10:02am

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Timmy84 said:

Does that mean that Lionel's gold now?

I know he's probably somewhere with his accountant going "OUTRAGEOUS! "

ahahah like at the 1985 Music awards when Prince was doing all his weird shit. Lionel just kept syaing Prince outrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrageous

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Starting with sales info from HipHopDX

#6. Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded - 48,000 (383,000)

#8. Future - Pluto - 41,000 (41,000)

#20. Drake - Take Care - 16,000 (1,699,000)





#46. Tyga - Careless World: Rise Of The Last King - 8,300 (199,000)

#57. Young Jeezy - TM103: Hustlerz Ambition - 7,000 (567,000)

#65. Trip Lee - The Good Life - 6,000 (24,000)

#81. Jay-Z & Kanye West - Watch The Throne - 5,000 (1,417,000)

#93. Odd Future - OF Tape, Vol. 2 - 4,300 (69,000)



#152. Diggy - Unexpected Arrival - 2,700 (45,000)

#167. Snoop Dogg - Stoner's EP - 2,500 (2,500)

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Top 10 Country Albums for This Week with Six Notable Albums (SoundScan Top 40 Current Albums Chart Placement)*

#1 - Lionel Richie – Tuskegee 114k (537,000)
#10 – Luke Bryan – tailgates & tanlines 28k (981,000)
#13 - Rascal Flatts - Changed 25k (195,000)
#18 – Eric Church – Chief 19k (740,000)
#24 – Jason Aldean – My Kinda Party 15k (2,529,000)
#36 – Lady Antebellum – Own The Night 11k (1,577,000)
#42 – Brantley Gilbert - Halfway To Heaven 9k (531,000)
#43 – Blake Shelton – Red River Blue 9k (648,000)
#52 – Miranda Lambert – Four The Record 7k (526,000)
#54 – The Band Perry – The Band Perry 7k (1,261,000)
#66 – Zac Brown Band – You Get What You Give 6k (1,470,000)
#67 – Scotty McCreery – Clear As Day 6k (1,029,000)
#70 – Toby Keith – Clancy’s Tavern 6k (500,000)
#102 – Eli Young Band – Life At Best 4k (203,000)
#112 – Hunter Hayes – Hunter Hayes 3K (107,000)

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Reply #14 posted 04/25/12 11:17am

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Lionel has to feel so vindicated. His cd is selling like hot cakes. After all that unnecessary publicity for Madonna. Then she plummets all the way down after only a week at number 1....

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Mdna is falling badly again with these billboard numbers 21k to 12k

MDNA drops 18-34 on the Billboard 200, with 12,000 (rounded number). Cume stands at around 440,000.

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Reply #16 posted 04/25/12 3:22pm

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asg said:

Mdna is falling badly again with these billboard numbers 21k to 12k

MDNA drops 18-34 on the Billboard 200, with 12,000 (rounded number). Cume stands at around 440,000.

i purchased 'like a prayer' years ago (still have the cassette - CASSETTE! lol ), and i have a few other singles on my ipod. i was never a huge fan, and still believe that if videos hadn't been around she would have had a shelf life of maybe 5 years (mtv was good to a LOT of peeps). she is genius for hooking up with the right producers who've been able to maximize her fair to middlin' talents, i certainly give her that.

still, i have to say, i was really surprised listening to the snippets of the songs on amazon. there is nothing remotely hummable or melodic, no memorable hooks, nothing. i'm surprised that there were any positive reviews of this album at all. after they dismissed her initially, she managed to outmaneuver the critics, so i guess now they wouldn't dare slam her because she's attained 'pop royalty' status. prince said a writer once told him, writers write for other writers. i guess it's no longer popular among them to slam her or even print the truth, so they hype her instead.

but man, is that cd BAD.

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Reply #17 posted 04/25/12 3:32pm

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You guys are obsessed with Madonnas sales and idk why lol

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You guys are obsessed with Madonnas sales and idk why lol

Yeah i mean its weird because worldwide she is a relevant artist still but in the usa i dont see the obsession with her sales? i mean she is not a relevant music artist in the states anymore, she really hasnt been for awhile, barely on the last album. So i mean when you look at others from her time, Prince, he hasnt been relevant (and yes im a huge fan) but his relevance in music mainstream died back in 1992, i mean he hasnt had a "hit" crossover, (and im not talkiing lame shit like Future Baby Mama, which was NOT a hit) his last crossover success was in 1995, so i dont get the fascination with "madonna's sales" since she is a 53yr old artist, i mean its not like im going to do threads on Elton John's next album when it barely sells 100,000, while he sells zillions of tickets to shows, so i dont get the fascination with sales on aritsts that really are not chart relevant anymore.


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lastdecember said:

Gunsnhalen said:

You guys are obsessed with Madonnas sales and idk why lol

Yeah i mean its weird because worldwide she is a relevant artist still but in the usa i dont see the obsession with her sales? i mean she is not a relevant music artist in the states anymore, she really hasnt been for awhile, barely on the last album. So i mean when you look at others from her time, Prince, he hasnt been relevant (and yes im a huge fan) but his relevance in music mainstream died back in 1992, i mean he hasnt had a "hit" crossover, (and im not talkiing lame shit like Future Baby Mama, which was NOT a hit) his last crossover success was in 1995, so i dont get the fascination with "madonna's sales" since she is a 53yr old artist, i mean its not like im going to do threads on Elton John's next album when it barely sells 100,000, while he sells zillions of tickets to shows, so i dont get the fascination with sales on aritsts that really are not chart relevant anymore.

Just comparing her to other 50yr olds like the boss is likely ahead of her in th is weeks charts despite havin his album out 2 weeks b4 her. Madonna fans have a habit of rubbing her numbers on ur face and now she is doing badly they dont care about numbers and they also have disappeared

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Whatever. She's not hungry. I'm on wikipedia and it says her tour (that hasn't even started) is already #18 on highest grossing tours of all time.

She's making money regardless.

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Reply #21 posted 04/25/12 5:08pm

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Whatever. She's not hungry. I'm on wikipedia and it says her tour (that hasn't even started) is already #18 on highest grossing tours of all time.

She's making money regardless.

Well that's that. lol

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Reply #22 posted 04/25/12 5:23pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

You guys are obsessed with Madonnas sales and idk why lol

Yeah i mean its weird because worldwide she is a relevant artist still but in the usa i dont see the obsession with her sales? i mean she is not a relevant music artist in the states anymore, she really hasnt been for awhile, barely on the last album. So i mean when you look at others from her time, Prince, he hasnt been relevant (and yes im a huge fan) but his relevance in music mainstream died back in 1992, i mean he hasnt had a "hit" crossover, (and im not talkiing lame shit like Future Baby Mama, which was NOT a hit) his last crossover success was in 1995, so i dont get the fascination with "madonna's sales" since she is a 53yr old artist, i mean its not like im going to do threads on Elton John's next album when it barely sells 100,000, while he sells zillions of tickets to shows, so i dont get the fascination with sales on aritsts that really are not chart relevant anymore.

I think it is because of how she was marketed.

Folks were claiming her to be the greatest artist of all time and ranking her higher than her more talented peers. (ex. MJ and Prince).

Now while thats just media b.s. and really doesnt matter, I find her quick drop to be interesting. Your right sales dont mean anything especially for an artist like Madonna but if she was the greatest artist of all time or had a big push for people wanting to listen to her as people were hyping her at the beginning of this era to be, I highly doubt it would have drop so quickly because she had got way more promotion than Lionel.

People say that the only reason why Lionel did well is because of promotion. Maybe that is partially true but I also believe his fans or who ever purchased the album liked it which is also why its doing good as well. Alot of fans of Madonna did not like the album and to be honest, it really wasnt good.

Regardless like some have said, she is going to make big bucks with her tour like she usually does but her numbers show she isnt as relevant as she was marketed to be.

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Reply #23 posted 04/25/12 5:59pm

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You guys are obsessed with Madonnas sales and idk why lol

i didn't post anything about her numbers. however, i can understand that there *may be* a correlation in this instance.

leaving aside the fact that she's an older artist whose debut is coming up on 30 years now, and even icons like the stones have been likewise m.i.a. from the charts, to the extent that what i have heard of this album, i am not surprised that it's not selling.

i know that sales don't tell the whole story. there are good albums out there that would be lucky to move 500K. but in this case, i think there is a correlation between the sales of this madonna project and the fact that it just kinda stinks.

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lastdecember said:

Yeah i mean its weird because worldwide she is a relevant artist still but in the usa i dont see the obsession with her sales? i mean she is not a relevant music artist in the states anymore, she really hasnt been for awhile, barely on the last album. So i mean when you look at others from her time, Prince, he hasnt been relevant (and yes im a huge fan) but his relevance in music mainstream died back in 1992, i mean he hasnt had a "hit" crossover, (and im not talkiing lame shit like Future Baby Mama, which was NOT a hit) his last crossover success was in 1995, so i dont get the fascination with "madonna's sales" since she is a 53yr old artist, i mean its not like im going to do threads on Elton John's next album when it barely sells 100,000, while he sells zillions of tickets to shows, so i dont get the fascination with sales on aritsts that really are not chart relevant anymore.

I think it is because of how she was marketed.

Folks were claiming her to be the greatest artist of all time and ranking her higher than her more talented peers. (ex. MJ and Prince).

Now while thats just media b.s. and really doesnt matter, I find her quick drop to be interesting. Your right sales dont mean anything especially for an artist like Madonna but if she was the greatest artist of all time or had a big push for people wanting to listen to her as people were hyping her at the beginning of this era to be, I highly doubt it would have drop so quickly because she had got way more promotion than Lionel.

People say that the only reason why Lionel did well is because of promotion. Maybe that is partially true but I also believe his fans or who ever purchased the album liked it which is also why its doing good as well. Alot of fans of Madonna did not like the album and to be honest, it really wasnt good.

Regardless like some have said, she is going to make big bucks with her tour like she usually does but her numbers show she isnt as relevant as she was marketed to be.

again i am far from a "madonna fan" though i have most of her stuff u wouldnt catch me at one of her shows, and i rarely even listen to her stuff new or old. BUT i will say that i dont think it was marketing, though i do feel this album was DOA, mainly because the superbowl was awful, everyone i know liked the old stuff and HATED Nicki Minaj and MIA, i have not heard one madonna fan yet say they liked that song or Nicki Minaj or MIA, they despised both of them. Also the MIA incident on the superbowl was LAME and screamed "desperate" to see this 53 yr old woman performing with a no talent rapper and an artist that is really all hype and nothing else (she was good about 8 years ago), it reminded me of the LAME track of Prince and EVE "HOt wit U" worst Prince song. On top of that madonna is off a major, even though Live Nation has cash, it actually doesnt have it like that to sustain promo for an album, its actually losing money big time on other acts tours the last two years. So i think this record is alot like Mariah's "Glitter" an album that is viewed as a joke (though Glitter is her best one) and will be the brunt of industry jokes though worldwide the album will most likely do a few million, and the tour is gonna bring in money.

As for Lionel, i agree that it is partially marketing, but its also OLD songs, nothing new, and he or his label selected the biggest in COuntry music to pair him with, i mean Rascall Flatts Jennifer Nettles, Tim Mcgraw, Shania, Kenny Rogers and Willie Nelson,Blake Shelton and Kenny Chesney, i mean these are the biggest selling country artists out there and huge album sellers in their own rite. So i think this album being big is a combo of choosing the right country artists and backing that with the Biggest hits of one of the biggest artists of the 70's and 80's it had to sell, just like Rod Stewart Tony Bennet and Barry Manilow doing covers or new versions of their stuff it was a no brainer


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Reply #25 posted 04/25/12 9:05pm

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lastdecember said:

Gunsnhalen said:

You guys are obsessed with Madonnas sales and idk why lol

Yeah i mean its weird because worldwide she is a relevant artist still but in the usa i dont see the obsession with her sales? i mean she is not a relevant music artist in the states anymore, she really hasnt been for awhile, barely on the last album. So i mean when you look at others from her time, Prince, he hasnt been relevant (and yes im a huge fan) but his relevance in music mainstream died back in 1992, i mean he hasnt had a "hit" crossover, (and im not talkiing lame shit like Future Baby Mama, which was NOT a hit) his last crossover success was in 1995, so i dont get the fascination with "madonna's sales" since she is a 53yr old artist, i mean its not like im going to do threads on Elton John's next album when it barely sells 100,000, while he sells zillions of tickets to shows, so i dont get the fascination with sales on aritsts that really are not chart relevant anymore.

That's not true, she's still popular in the United States. Its just that people want to see her on tour, not buy a crappy album. wink

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Reply #26 posted 04/25/12 9:25pm

Timmy84

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lastdecember said:

Yeah i mean its weird because worldwide she is a relevant artist still but in the usa i dont see the obsession with her sales? i mean she is not a relevant music artist in the states anymore, she really hasnt been for awhile, barely on the last album. So i mean when you look at others from her time, Prince, he hasnt been relevant (and yes im a huge fan) but his relevance in music mainstream died back in 1992, i mean he hasnt had a "hit" crossover, (and im not talkiing lame shit like Future Baby Mama, which was NOT a hit) his last crossover success was in 1995, so i dont get the fascination with "madonna's sales" since she is a 53yr old artist, i mean its not like im going to do threads on Elton John's next album when it barely sells 100,000, while he sells zillions of tickets to shows, so i dont get the fascination with sales on aritsts that really are not chart relevant anymore.

That's not true, she's still popular in the United States. Its just that people want to see her on tour, not buy a crappy album. wink

That's an understatement. Madonna's gonna always have an audience to see her on tour. Her new records don't matter to them.

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