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Jay-Z Facing Legal Trouble Over “Big Pimpin’” Sample

Jay-Z is in some hot water for a song he put out over a decade ago.

“Big Pimpin’,” which was included on Hov’s fourth album, Vol. 3…Life and Times of S. Carter, was one of the rapper’s biggest hits and peaked at No. 3 on the Billboard Hot Rap Singles charts. The Timbaland-produced cut contained a sample of the Egyptian song “Khosara, Khosara,” and those behind the the original version are coming after the star, according to Billboard.

The song was licensed to Jay-Z for use, however, according to reports, the family of the composer of “Khosara, Khosara,” Baligh Hamdy, believes that Jiggaman proceeded to “mutilate” the original. Osama Ahmed Fahmy, the composer’s nephew, is now seeking financial compensation for some of the money that has been made off of the success of “Big Pimpin’.”

In December, a judge ruled that the case should have been brought earlier, agreeing with Jay’s lawyers’ claims that the statute of limitations had passed. Still, the plaintiffs are able to go after compensation for revenue from 2004, which was three years prior to when the suit was filed, until now. More than record sales, they seem to be going after concert revenue, and a judge in California recently ruled that the case could go to trial. She issued the following decision: “This case may be more akin to the infringing use of copyrighted songs as part of a larger musical revue, an infringing use of a painting in a textbook, and one infringing poem contained in a poetry anthology, than the infringing use of copyrighted text or images to promote season tickets for the symphony, or the sale of a car—but that is up to a jury to decide.”

Ahab Joseph Nafal, who had also been licensed the song, is also going after the rapper. Nafal claimed “100% of an exclusive license” to “Khosara, Khosara,” but his case was dismissed by a California judge last week. —Adam Fleisc

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Reply #1 posted 03/08/12 11:49am

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Timbaland has sampled middle eastern, mostly arab, music quite a bit. I've heard he often doesn't get correct permission.

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Reply #2 posted 03/08/12 1:47pm

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I've never quite understood the point of sampling while the original artist was still alive. Why sample George Clinton when you can just hire...George Clinton?!

Anyway, after all the drama about sampling and permission/compensation issues back in the day, this really should no longer be an issue. smh

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Reply #3 posted 03/08/12 4:16pm

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Terrible ass song anyway lol

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Reply #4 posted 03/08/12 4:17pm

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brooksie said:

I've never quite understood the point of sampling while the original artist was still alive. Why sample George Clinton when you can just hire...George Clinton?!

Anyway, after all the drama about sampling and permission/compensation issues back in the day, this really should no longer be an issue. smh

I still remember George had to sue a few people for sampling "Atomic Dog" without his permission and he finally got his residuals. But they need to PAY him.

Same with the folks suing Mr. Carter for "Big Pimpin". Pimp C and Bun B didn't get paid off this either, I heard.

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Reply #5 posted 03/09/12 7:11am

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ISF said:

Timbaland has sampled middle eastern, mostly arab, music quite a bit. I've heard he often doesn't get correct permission.

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He has been one of my favorite producers to. Oh well!

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Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

I've never quite understood the point of sampling while the original artist was still alive. Why sample George Clinton when you can just hire...George Clinton?!

Anyway, after all the drama about sampling and permission/compensation issues back in the day, this really should no longer be an issue. smh

I still remember George had to sue a few people for sampling "Atomic Dog" without his permission and he finally got his residuals. But they need to PAY him.

Same with the folks suing Mr. Carter for "Big Pimpin". Pimp C and Bun B didn't get paid off this either, I heard.

It's one thing to rip off a 1st world artist, but it's a whole 'nother level of foul to rip off someone in the 3rd world! Dayum...cold. cool

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Reply #7 posted 03/09/12 10:30am

Timmy84

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

I still remember George had to sue a few people for sampling "Atomic Dog" without his permission and he finally got his residuals. But they need to PAY him.

Same with the folks suing Mr. Carter for "Big Pimpin". Pimp C and Bun B didn't get paid off this either, I heard.

It's one thing to rip off a 1st world artist, but it's a whole 'nother level of foul to rip off someone in the 3rd world! Dayum...cold. cool

True...

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