independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Van Halen- Women And Children First
« Previous topic  Next topic »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 12/30/11 3:23pm

Gunsnhalen

Van Halen- Women And Children First

Strange as big a nut as i am about VH i have not started posting there stuff till this month!

Any who, this album is badass plain & simple, the arrangements are genius to me... This album has some of the best bass playing by Anthony & Eddie gets to show his blues & country chops off.

This to me is also the most ''Diamond Dave'' album of all the VH albums! he injects so much of his personality into this album it's crazy!~ Fools is a great funky rift, Romeo Delight the drums, bass & feel my heartbeat guitar tapping breakdown are drool

Everybody Wants Some is DLR at his best, insane, loud, and over the top. Take Your Whiskey Home is a fantastic blues/country rocker that is one of my faves & In A Simple Rhyme is one of the boys funniest tracks.

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 12/30/11 3:28pm

rialb

avatar

For the longest time this album and Fair Warning were the two Dave era albums that I did not have. Consequently I am not nearly as familiar with those two albums as I am with the other ones.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 12/30/11 3:29pm

Gunsnhalen

rialb said:

For the longest time this album and Fair Warning were the two Dave era albums that I did not have. Consequently I am not nearly as familiar with those two albums as I am with the other ones.

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

Fair Warning is my all time favorite VH album & this is my 3rd. You should give these 2 another spin there amazing records i adore them..... After this was Diver Down which gets a lot of shit but i dig a lot of it.

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 12/30/11 3:57pm

rialb

avatar

Gunsnhalen said:

rialb said:

For the longest time this album and Fair Warning were the two Dave era albums that I did not have. Consequently I am not nearly as familiar with those two albums as I am with the other ones.

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

Fair Warning is my all time favorite VH album & this is my 3rd. You should give these 2 another spin there amazing records i adore them..... After this was Diver Down which gets a lot of shit but i dig a lot of it.

Oh, I've given them many, many spins but I think that the fact that I did not listen to them when I was young kind of colours my perception of them. I think I bought the other four albums around 1993 and listened to them repeatedly but I didn't get Fair Warning and Women and Children First until around 1998. By that time I was kind of over Van Halen.

To me they are kind of like Led Zeppelin's Presence. Good albums but they will always be somewhat overlooked by me.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 12/30/11 7:34pm

SPYZFAN1

This was the 1st VH record I ever owned. Got it as a gift right after it came out. Micheal Anthony's harmonies on "Rhyme" is the shit.

I still have the original limited poster that came with it too. I heard it's valued anywhere from $200 to $500 in the VH collector's circle.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 12/30/11 7:56pm

Gunsnhalen

SPYZFAN1 said:

This was the 1st VH record I ever owned. Got it as a gift right after it came out. Micheal Anthony's harmonies on "Rhyme" is the shit.

I still have the original limited poster that came with it too. I heard it's valued anywhere from $200 to $500 in the VH collector's circle.

damn! the one with DLR chained up? i had it lol

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 12/30/11 7:58pm

jon1967

this album is so awesome.When I was about what 14 I saved my money and went to a music store on hollywood blvd and bought an insanely kewl jacket that had the cover of this album on the back .. it was sweet .. wish i still had that .. err

loves Tora n Take Your Whiskey Home. I can blast this album in my ipod n just get lost ..

[Edited 12/30/11 20:04pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 12/30/11 8:23pm

sunlite

I find it interesting that this record and "Dirty Mind" both had b & w photos on the covers. WACF was a departure in sound for the band and Prince's record was for him. What I love about Prince and Van Halen was that each of their albums sounded different from the last! During that era they both broke the rules and reached the top because they dared to be different from the pack.

Release Yourself
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 12/30/11 8:27pm

sunlite

SPYZFAN1 said:

This was the 1st VH record I ever owned. Got it as a gift right after it came out. Micheal Anthony's harmonies on "Rhyme" is the shit.

I still have the original limited poster that came with it too. I heard it's valued anywhere from $200 to $500 in the VH collector's circle.

I have a couple copies of WACF with the DLR poster. I gotta look into that collector's circle!

Release Yourself
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 12/30/11 9:04pm

breese

When Prince recorded his most perfect song ever, and then immediately erased it - I think Van Halen could've done that with Romeo Delight. But I'm glad they didn't.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 12/31/11 7:38am

Bfunkthe1

avatar

Big classic VH fan here. cool

Fair Warning and WACF are my fave VH albums. Looking forward to hearing new record as well. It's been rumored that they revisited some old demos to rework on new album. Also, I can't believe nothing has leaked yet.

A teaser would be nice. wink

Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 12/31/11 7:45am

JoeTyler

their "heavy-metal" album (and Fair Warning)

lacks a truly standout single, but hell, it features some of the best album tracks of their career

tinkerbell
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 12/31/11 8:05am

Bfunkthe1

avatar

^

Agreed. It also contains some of the funkiest riffs/grooves VH ever recorded. Though in the hard rock vein, some of the grooves are very funky. Imo. Heck,the intro to Mean Streets was inspired by funk bass players slapping technique. cool

Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 12/31/11 10:07am

sunlite

JoeTyler said:

their "heavy-metal" album (and Fair Warning)

lacks a truly standout single, but hell, it features some of the best album tracks of their career

I don't think "heavy-metal" when I hear "Fair Warning. It was more of a "funk rock" vibe! Which is no surprise, because Edward played bass on at least hlaf the songs and you hear the funk meter go up on stuff like "Mean Streets" and "Dirty Movies". Michael Anthony never played bass like you hear on "When Push Comes To Shove". Most guitar players cite this as their favorite Van Halen album. I agree! His playing was more deliberate and it was the first time he thought out solos and did overdubs.

Eddie and his engineer went into the studio late at night to rerecord stuff the band didn't agree on, because he felt it had to be on there. Of course they liked it after the fact. This was a few years before he built his 5150 studio in his garage.

Release Yourself
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 12/31/11 10:12am

JoeTyler

sunlite said:

JoeTyler said:

their "heavy-metal" album (and Fair Warning)

lacks a truly standout single, but hell, it features some of the best album tracks of their career

I don't think "heavy-metal" when I hear "Fair Warning. It was more of a "funk rock" vibe! Which is no surprise, because Edward played bass on at least hlaf the songs and you hear the funk meter go up on stuff like "Mean Streets" and "Dirty Movies". Michael Anthony never played bass like you hear on "When Push Comes To Shove". Most guitar players cite this as their favorite Van Halen album. I agree! His playing was more deliberate and it was the first time he thought out solos and did overdubs.

Eddie and his engineer went into the studio late at night to rerecord stuff the band didn't agree on, because he felt it had to be on there. Of course they liked it after the fact. This was a few years before he built his 5150 studio in his garage.

yeah, I guess you guys are right, FW definitely has some deep grooves, but damn, that guitar burns, just plain red hot! so it's Funk Metal, if you ask me wink

tinkerbell
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 12/31/11 10:22am

Bfunkthe1

avatar

Bfunkthe1 said:

^

Agreed. It also contains some of the funkiest riffs/grooves VH ever recorded. Though in the hard rock vein, some of the grooves are very funky. Imo. Heck,the intro to Mean Streets was inspired by funk bass players slapping technique. cool

^

Like I said...in reference to Fair Warning.

wink

[Edited 12/31/11 10:24am]

Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 12/31/11 10:25am

sunlite

Bfunkthe1 said:

Bfunkthe1 said:

^

Agreed. It also contains some of the funkiest riffs/grooves VH ever recorded. Though in the hard rock vein, some of the grooves are very funky. Imo. Heck,the intro to Mean Streets was inspired by funk bass players slapping technique. cool

^

Like I said...

wink

yeahthat

Release Yourself
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 12/31/11 10:45am

Gunsnhalen

sunlite said:

Bfunkthe1 said:

^

Like I said...

wink

yeahthat

I Agree with you both!!

This album & Fair Warning where funky in a lot of there grooves. Wish they would get the funky back razz

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 12/31/11 10:46am

Gunsnhalen

JoeTyler said:

their "heavy-metal" album (and Fair Warning)

lacks a truly standout single, but hell, it features some of the best album tracks of their career

This, despite some bluesy & country influences. Is probably there loudest album! so agree on the heavy metal quote

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 12/31/11 10:50am

sunlite

Van Halen has always had one foot in the funk. Listen to "Take Your Whiskey Home". All the way back to "Jamie's Cryin", "Runnin With The Devil" and "Little Dreamer"!

Release Yourself
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 12/31/11 10:52am

Bfunkthe1

avatar

Well let's wait a few weeks and see how the "new" material sounds. Like I said, it's been rumored VH revisited their old demos for new album. And DLR always had a soulful/RnB ish quality to his vocals but in a rock vein. Imo. Matter of fact, there is a new clip floating around with DLR in a vocal booth warming up to O'Jays Love Train. Lol. Very cool. Imo. cool

Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 12/31/11 11:03am

sunlite

Gunsnhalen said:

JoeTyler said:

their "heavy-metal" album (and Fair Warning)

lacks a truly standout single, but hell, it features some of the best album tracks of their career

This, despite some bluesy & country influences. Is probably there loudest album! so agree on the heavy metal quote

The first album was pretty loud! Fair Warning was probably mixed louder. I equate "heavy metal" with dark themes, bar chords and all males fans. None of which describe Van Halen biggrin They always sang about having a good time, half of their audience was always girls and Edward never played basic rock bar chords. Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, that's heavy metal to me. DLR described Van Halen as "big rock"!

[Edited 12/31/11 11:11am]

Release Yourself
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 12/31/11 11:25am

Bfunkthe1

avatar

^

I agree. I never considered VH heavy Metal or even close to it. Hard and Heavy at times but not HM. Like DLR said, Big Rock. smile

Btw, nice to see the love for CVH especially with new music dropping real soon. Maybe we need to start an all emcompassing CVH thread. No disrespect to the other singers, but concentrate on the DLR led years.

Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 12/31/11 11:26am

SPYZFAN1

From what I've read on VHND is that the Roth poster was shot by some famous undergound photographer. There are reprints avail online of the poster but the original (from what I've read) is worth the $$$$$. I'm glad I never threw mine out. Looking foward to the new CD. I've been listening to the old 70's demos and hopefully it'll be in the same vein. Wish Mike was there. sad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 01/02/12 9:59am

rialb

avatar

sunlite said:

JoeTyler said:

their "heavy-metal" album (and Fair Warning)

lacks a truly standout single, but hell, it features some of the best album tracks of their career

I don't think "heavy-metal" when I hear "Fair Warning. It was more of a "funk rock" vibe! Which is no surprise, because Edward played bass on at least hlaf the songs and you hear the funk meter go up on stuff like "Mean Streets" and "Dirty Movies". Michael Anthony never played bass like you hear on "When Push Comes To Shove". Most guitar players cite this as their favorite Van Halen album. I agree! His playing was more deliberate and it was the first time he thought out solos and did overdubs.

Eddie and his engineer went into the studio late at night to rerecord stuff the band didn't agree on, because he felt it had to be on there. Of course they liked it after the fact. This was a few years before he built his 5150 studio in his garage.

Interesting. Any idea how much bass he played on other albums? Supposedly he played nearly all the bass in the later years (the two new tracks on the 1996 best of album, much of VH III and the new stuff on Best of Both Worlds) but I wasn't aware that he was playing the bass as far back as Fair Warning. I always slag VH for the simplicity of the basslines but you are right, there are some decent ones on Fair Warning.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Van Halen- Women And Children First