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Most underrated and overrated What musical artists do not deserve the credit they receive, or vice versa, should have much more success?
I do not want to offend anyone, but always thought Nirvana get too much credit. They are a great band, but to put them on a par with the classics of rock: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd .... it's really strange and undeserved, imo. [Edited 10/26/11 4:40am] | |
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Overrated: Bob Dylan. Fantastic albums in the second half of the 60's, but that isn't enough to almost give him the Literature Nobel Prize.
Together with: Radiohead. Three very good albums (OK Computer, Kid A and Amnesiac), but several contemporary groups were more interesting and with less annoying singers than Yorke.
Together with: Marvin Gaye. In my opinion, none of his albums deserve the credit they have. Even What's Going On, which is brilliant, but not the masterpiece it is frequently considered to be.
Underrated: The Kinks. Ray Davies is in my opinion the best lyricist pop music has offered and The Kinks are the real masters in crafting perfect pop songs.
Together with: The Boo Radleys. Best pop group of the 90's.
Together with: Benjamin Biolay. He is as good as Gainsbourg, or even better.
Don't hate me for my overrated artists... It's just an opinion...
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Bob Dylan is certainly one of the best songwriters of all time. He is great but not SO great.
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I think that it's just a bunch of people who got sick of hair bands and those who have their nostalgia goggles on too tight who act as if they Nirvana saved music from 80s pop and hair bands.
Oh god I will never forget that influx of shitty alt. rock from the 90s. Ugh. | |
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Rock music underated and r.n.b overated in this forum. | |
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Stevie Wonder - I don't get how he's constantly put in the greatest voices of all time category. With Stevie, to me at least, it's first and foremost about what he's saying rather than how he's saying it. There were and are people who could just flat out sing. Sam Cooke, Elvis Presley, Ray Charles, Freddie Mercury...I wouldn't put him amongst those names.
Elvis Presley - Did not invent Rock & Roll. That seems to be a common misconception with many.
Bob Dylan - Genius songwriter but seriously needs to be kept off greatest voices of all time lists.
Michael Jackson - Talented songwriter but a bit overrated. Some material is borderline cheesy.
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Most underrated:
I think his musical talents and abilities are acknowledged and yet most of his albums are very unappreciated & underrated. Most of the time simply because they are not "favorable". :eyeroll: Even here, I usually don't agree with how old-timers rate his recent albums. Ugh.
And lol @ Rolling Stone They have a sick crush on Beatles and Bob Dylan. I hope no one here takes their 100 greatest artists/guitarists whatever list seriously | |
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Ranked BEFORE MERCURY... Are pigs flying outside? What the hell is wrong with Rolling Stones? | |
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Stevie is not one of the best vocalists I have not seen the information that was generally accepted that he is one of the best singers. Maybe on this site, but nowhere else. But he's good.
Yes, yes, yes. I agree 100% Michael Jackson - Talented songwriter but a bit overrated. Some material is borderline cheesy. Michael is not overrated songwriter among the general public (only among his fans) . I think he's even underrated songwriter because so many people do not know that he is the author of most of his hits, they think he's just a performer. | |
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Whoooaaa Stevie Wonder is definitly one of the greatest singers of all time..
Michael was a very underrated talented songwriter. Most of all his MAJOR hits were written by HIMSELF.I definitly would rank him on a greatest songwriter list for a pop star... I am not sure what number I would place him but I'd say definitly higher than 50 but lower than top 20.
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Well Dylan is like..... my boy I think he is an absolute genius BUT
Top 10 singers of all time he is not, idk what RS was thinking. Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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Wait so you think Elvis is a better singer then Stevie? i mean to be Elvis is not even that amazing of a singer.... And certainly not better then Stevie. Stevie had more range Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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Underrated i would say
Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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Stevie is a very good singer, but there are simply better. Freddie Mercury, Robert Plant, Steve Perry. I do not know if I would include him in the Top 10 or not, but he obviously is not in the top 5 best. But at the same time he was able to write a masterpiece.
Earth Song - rather banal, but very powerful thing. The most successful and respected his song in Europe. Together with a clip makes a great impression on most people.
Wait so you think Elvis is a better singer then Stevie? I'm not a hater, I love Stevie much more than Elvis (he is one of the overated, by the way ), but Elvis, in my opinion, the better singer. | |
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WELL HEY.. Everyone has there own likes
I personally would pick Ray's voice over Freddy, Stevie & the rest.. but that is just me Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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I dunno I guess this is all opinion. Of course their are better singers than Stevie just like Michael etc(love both of them) but I still would rank Stevie on a greatest singer list. Like Michael, Stevie has a very distinctive voice with incredible range which alone puts him on that list. I'd say he definility deserves to be in the top 10. I would rank him 10 and the ones you mention obviously higher. I cant defend the Elvis comparision though Thats definitly ALL opinion
I find that alot of people prefer Mikes younger singing than his older... Me personally, I love both! He was very versatile and still was an amazing singer. Yea I agree some lyrics were cheesy...
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It's not possible to overrate Bob Dylan. He is the one who made pop music into more than a 3 minute bubblegum hits genre. As Springsteen said, Elvis freed our body while Dylan freed our mind. Anyone who picks up a guitar and starts writing songs places him or herself in a line that ultimately leads back to him. And if that isn't enough, he has written some of the best love songs ever. Check out Blood on the Tracks if you don't know what I'm talking about. And if that isn't enough he has been able to come back strongly in his later years, releasing albums that are as good as his best 60s work. He has been able to grow as a songwriter, allowing us to peak into his mind and his life rather than repeating himself over and over again. And to top it all off, at 70, he still takes his show on the road, performing 100 shows a year and playing a different set list every night. How many can do that? | |
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I felt Bob deserved a post of his own. As for the subject of underrated musicians, I think it's only natural that you'll come up with names that no one has heared of outside their own fan base. So let's hear it for two unsung heroes of the git-tar! Link Wray, who did some killer guitar instrumentals in the 50s and early 60s and was one of the true guitar pioneers. Another one is Jimmy Nolan from James Browns band, who created the funky rhythm guitar sound we know so well either from JB or Prince. | |
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Because in his childhood he was very natural, crystal clear, powerful and natural voice, just the angelic voice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN7HNqFIKpI
But frankly, if we're talking about vocals only:
Please give examples of cheese lyrics. [Edited 10/26/11 7:29am] | |
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Have you heard Butterflies?
Not entire songs just some segments in songs maybe cheesy isnt the right word but cliche not as complicated as other lyrics this coming from a HUGE fan
I think his greatest moments lyrically were in the 90's... ima give examples.
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We talked only about singing. | |
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I asked for an example not because I think that all the songs of Michael brilliant. Lol. I just do not understand very well the value of the word (Russian - my native language). It is synonymous with banal, stupid? Yeah? I think his greatest moments lyrically were in the 90's.. I agree 100% | |
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I like Bob Dylan, especially his classic albums of the second half of the 60's, but sentences like the one I have stressed are what makes me think he's overrated. If that's true of Dylan (I think it isn't), you could say the same of several artists.
I think the sentence I have stressed is only true for The Beatles regarding pop music and for Kraftwerk regarding electronic music.
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LiLi1992 said:
eWe talked only about singing. He doesn't have a beautiful voice, but that's not the same as being a bad singer. He is "just as good a singer as Caruso. You have to listen closely. but I hit all those notes". His own words. | |
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overrated/underrdated = "people don't think exactly the same way about an artist as I do." The terms have no meaning any more.
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Of course it is subjective. | |
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coltrane3 said: overrated/underrdated = "people don't think exactly the same way about an artist as I do." The terms have no meaning any more.
That's very true and exactly the reason why I interpreted "underrated" as "being influential but not famous." | |
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I disagree.
Especially when you got facts to back it up and their not solely opinions. | |
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O okay...
Invincible was definitly his weakest albums while I do think a few songs were underrated...
Ex. Heaven Can't Wait ..... I exactly like the 90's r&b sound but the lyrics are very cliche. | |
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It not my opinion, simply article. Solo Artists: Most Underrated And OverratedAndrew Payne
Underrated
Overrated: 5. Aretha Franklin
3. The Notorious B.I.G.
2. Bob Marley
1. Janis Joplin
http://www.starpulse.com/news/Andrew_Payne/2008/05/16/solo_artist_most_underrated_and_overrate | |
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