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Reply #30 posted 10/08/11 3:48pm

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KidaDynamite said:

Identity said:

Wow! There's paying homage and there's straight-up stealing ideas. lol

The "Countdown" vid totally falls into the latter category,

Okay, so WHY do you feel she stole it?

Because she uses the same type of setting+same type of clothes+ used the same choreography+same camera angles.

She never checkes with the artist whether she was allowed to do this.

That's stealing.

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Reply #31 posted 10/08/11 3:50pm

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novabrkr said:

Couldn't make it past 1:20.

lol

I got to 1:26. After she was talking about how her man wears black diamonds, and telling girls to show their man how to ride a dick...come on now B. You're 30 and a damn momma now.

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Reply #32 posted 10/08/11 4:30pm

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*sigh* Here we go again

Interviewer: How did you come up with the concept of your new video?

Beyonce: You know what? Actually, I was browsing Youtube and came across *insert artist* video and I felt so inspired by the emotion that I wanted to capture that same essence...

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Reply #33 posted 10/08/11 4:34pm

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zobilamouche said:

KidaDynamite said:

Identity said: Okay, so WHY do you feel she stole it?

Because she uses the same type of setting+same type of clothes+ used the same choreography+same camera angles.

She never checkes with the artist whether she was allowed to do this.

That's stealing.

Prince performs people songs all of the time and I'm sure he doesn't ask permission but no ones writes stories about him or anyone else who does the same thing and says they're plagiarizing...just sayin'!

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Reply #34 posted 10/08/11 5:41pm

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zobilamouche said:

KidaDynamite said:

Identity said: Okay, so WHY do you feel she stole it?

Because she uses the same type of setting+same type of clothes+ used the same choreography+same camera angles.

She never checkes with the artist whether she was allowed to do this.

That's stealing.

Yeah it is PRETTY obvious the satement given by the original director of the previous film

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Reply #35 posted 10/08/11 6:40pm

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My point is...the lady says she's seen school kids perform it and that she thinks that's more beautiful. It's okay when no one asks permission but when it comes to Beyonce, there goes the magnifying glass. Everything she does is disected and then report if they find out it wasn't "original". I'm not saying it's right to steal or whatever but I just feel like this wasn't that big of a deal. Did Beyonce take total credit for this? No. Does she say when and what she's inspired by? Yes. I don't know, I just hate seeing people be so quick about downing or dismissing someone who doesn't mean any harm. I'll let it be, though. lol

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Reply #36 posted 10/08/11 6:55pm

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The video is kinda cute, but the song is meh...

Shaolin325 said:

I LOVE THIS SONG!!! I thought it was called "Uhh Ahh" biggrin

Nice vid.

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Hadn't heard the song until I watched the video yesterday.

I was hyped a bit after learning that it sampled "Uhh Ahh".

But it turned out it was only the countdown part neutral confused

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Reply #37 posted 10/08/11 7:58pm

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KidaDynamite said:

My point is...the lady says she's seen school kids perform it and that she thinks that's more beautiful. It's okay when no one asks permission but when it comes to Beyonce, there goes the magnifying glass. Everything she does is disected and then report if they find out it wasn't "original". I'm not saying it's right to steal or whatever but I just feel like this wasn't that big of a deal. Did Beyonce take total credit for this? No. Does she say when and what she's inspired by? Yes. I don't know, I just hate seeing people be so quick about downing or dismissing someone who doesn't mean any harm. I'll let it be, though. lol

You better believe she will be under a magnifying glass. This is not high school musical at North High Community....this is somebody who used someone elses work and will be getting paid every single time the video and song airs...thanks to her vision and imagry she came up with originally.

Let somebody do that to you I dont think you say the same thing.

Let somebody re-copyright your stuff you already paid for and worked on and I bet you would be the first one in here letting us know.

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Reply #38 posted 10/08/11 8:25pm

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paisleypark4 said:

KidaDynamite said:

My point is...the lady says she's seen school kids perform it and that she thinks that's more beautiful. It's okay when no one asks permission but when it comes to Beyonce, there goes the magnifying glass. Everything she does is disected and then report if they find out it wasn't "original". I'm not saying it's right to steal or whatever but I just feel like this wasn't that big of a deal. Did Beyonce take total credit for this? No. Does she say when and what she's inspired by? Yes. I don't know, I just hate seeing people be so quick about downing or dismissing someone who doesn't mean any harm. I'll let it be, though. lol

You better believe she will be under a magnifying glass. This is not high school musical at North High Community....this is somebody who used someone elses work and will be getting paid every single time the video and song airs...thanks to her vision and imagry she came up with originally.

Let somebody do that to you I dont think you say the same thing.

Let somebody re-copyright your stuff you already paid for and worked on and I bet you would be the first one in here letting us know.

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Oh chile, calm down. hug If I had something to rant about 'here' would be the LAST place I come to to do so. lol
I wouldn't rant about it to anyone if I had that big of a problem with it. I would talk to that person and if I can't bring myself then there is no need to do interviews and things about it.
I said I didn't feel it was a big deal because I see it as an homage, not stealing. Artists perform other artists songs and whatnot and I'm sure most of them don't ask permission a lot of the times and we praise it but I just feel people nitpick at anything Beyonce does because for whatever reason there is just something about her that irks most of you. shrug

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Reply #39 posted 10/08/11 8:56pm

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KidaDynamite said:

paisleypark4 said:

You better believe she will be under a magnifying glass. This is not high school musical at North High Community....this is somebody who used someone elses work and will be getting paid every single time the video and song airs...thanks to her vision and imagry she came up with originally.

Let somebody do that to you I dont think you say the same thing.

Let somebody re-copyright your stuff you already paid for and worked on and I bet you would be the first one in here letting us know.

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Oh chile, calm down. hug If I had something to rant about 'here' would be the LAST place I come to to do so. lol
I wouldn't rant about it to anyone if I had that big of a problem with it. I would talk to that person and if I can't bring myself then there is no need to do interviews and things about it.
I said I didn't feel it was a big deal because I see it as an homage, not stealing. Artists perform other artists songs and whatnot and I'm sure most of them don't ask permission a lot of the times and we praise it but I just feel people nitpick at anything Beyonce does because for whatever reason there is just something about her that irks most of you. shrug

Beyonce is being compared to more legendary artists that were exactly original and innovator so yes you betta believe people are going to analyze it because she is being placed on a pedestal not by us... by the media and SHE HERSELF. Beyonce has a TRACK RECORD of stealing and copying so this isnt anything new.

She is just a pop star and looks for creative things because she cant be creative herself. I dont take her seriously at all which is why the copying doesnt bother me much.

Shit like this further shows just how overrated she is. I wouldnt mine it as much if she would stop making it seem like she is just this innovator artist who takes risks when in real reality all she does is follow trends and copies. I dont see why she should be an exception of artistic criticism.

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Reply #40 posted 10/08/11 9:29pm

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KidaDynamite said:

paisleypark4 said:

You better believe she will be under a magnifying glass. This is not high school musical at North High Community....this is somebody who used someone elses work and will be getting paid every single time the video and song airs...thanks to her vision and imagry she came up with originally.

Let somebody do that to you I dont think you say the same thing.

Let somebody re-copyright your stuff you already paid for and worked on and I bet you would be the first one in here letting us know.

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Oh chile, calm down. hug If I had something to rant about 'here' would be the LAST place I come to to do so. lol
I wouldn't rant about it to anyone if I had that big of a problem with it. I would talk to that person and if I can't bring myself then there is no need to do interviews and things about it.
I said I didn't feel it was a big deal because I see it as an homage, not stealing. Artists perform other artists songs and whatnot and I'm sure most of them don't ask permission a lot of the times and we praise it but I just feel people nitpick at anything Beyonce does because for whatever reason there is just something about her that irks most of you. shrug

The only thing I said was that the artist didnt even KNOW her work was being re-done. That's the part that is pretty shady.

She being 30 now it's like...come on chile you should know better, she not Hanna...she know what she is doing. There comes a time to be "cute young and inspired" but not by 30...that is just a cheap.

I have her last three albums, I have a like her hae her relationship. She puts on a great show...she has two good albums of her four...Counts for something.

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Reply #41 posted 10/08/11 10:54pm

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paisleypark4 said:

KidaDynamite said:

Oh chile, calm down. hug If I had something to rant about 'here' would be the LAST place I come to to do so. lol
I wouldn't rant about it to anyone if I had that big of a problem with it. I would talk to that person and if I can't bring myself then there is no need to do interviews and things about it.
I said I didn't feel it was a big deal because I see it as an homage, not stealing. Artists perform other artists songs and whatnot and I'm sure most of them don't ask permission a lot of the times and we praise it but I just feel people nitpick at anything Beyonce does because for whatever reason there is just something about her that irks most of you. shrug

The only thing I said was that the artist didnt even KNOW her work was being re-done. That's the part that is pretty shady.

She being 30 now it's like...come on chile you should know better, she not Hanna...she know what she is doing. There comes a time to be "cute young and inspired" but not by 30...that is just a cheap.

I have her last three albums, I have a like her hae her relationship. She puts on a great show...she has two good albums of her four...Counts for something.

lol

I still think you're cute, though. batting eyes

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Reply #42 posted 10/08/11 11:24pm

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So im guessing she's unoriginal.

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Reply #43 posted 10/09/11 1:34am

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KidaDynamite said:

zobilamouche said:

Because she uses the same type of setting+same type of clothes+ used the same choreography+same camera angles.

She never checkes with the artist whether she was allowed to do this.

That's stealing.

Prince performs people songs all of the time and I'm sure he doesn't ask permission but no ones writes stories about him or anyone else who does the same thing and says they're plagiarizing...just sayin'!

Prince doesn't claim it's his song and he pays royalties on that.

If he did a video with dancing zombies, wearing a red leather jacket, and doing the same moves as MJ, without permission... that would be plagiarism.

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Reply #44 posted 10/09/11 10:09am

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Beyonce's new clip for "Love on Top"

SideNote: Chris Grant is one of the background dancers

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Reply #45 posted 10/09/11 10:44am

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Beyonce's new clip for "Love on Top"

SideNote: Chris Grant is one of the background dancers

Interesting. I thought she was for sure gonna go with the suited look like her performance outfit for the VMA's.

Cant wait to see the whole thing. I love, love, LOVE this song.

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Reply #46 posted 10/09/11 12:14pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Beyonce's new clip for "Love on Top"

SideNote: Chris Grant is one of the background dancers

Interesting. I thought she was for sure gonna go with the suited look like her performance outfit for the VMA's.

Cant wait to see the whole thing. I love, love, LOVE this song.

I was hoping so too! I don't like that look. it doesn't fit the song.

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Reply #47 posted 10/09/11 12:58pm

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That clip is only one minute and twenty seconds. There's still 3 minutes left to be seen. The rest of the video may not be the same as what we already have.

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Reply #48 posted 10/09/11 1:07pm

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lavender1983 said:

Interesting. I thought she was for sure gonna go with the suited look like her performance outfit for the VMA's.

Cant wait to see the whole thing. I love, love, LOVE this song.

I was hoping so too! I don't like that look. it doesn't fit the song.

Right me neither. But I agree with PurpleRain2010. The video may likely change towards the end since this scene is like rehearsal footage in her dance studio or something. Here's hoping. She needs to give them leotards a rest lol

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Reply #49 posted 10/09/11 1:17pm

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she is ALWAYS in a baithing suit.

and ALWAYS copying someone else and hiding behind saying it was "inspired"

this video looks like all her videos from B-day. I don't see anything different.

the love on top, I don't understand why she is dancing in a baithing suit, it doesn't make the video any better if anything its annoying seeing her like that all the time.

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Reply #50 posted 10/09/11 2:44pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Beyonce's new clip for "Love on Top"

SideNote: Chris Grant is one of the background dancers

That is such a Michael Jackson song...and why is this reminding me of:

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Reply #51 posted 10/09/11 2:49pm

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Lol! This is like a damn game now! "Guess where Beyonce got her influence/stole from" lol

..and everybody wins!

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Reply #52 posted 10/09/11 5:28pm

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ScarletScandal said:

Lol! This is like a damn game now! "Guess where Beyonce got her influence/stole from" lol

..and everybody wins!

lol I know, right. I wonder who she's gonna be "inspired" by next.

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Reply #53 posted 10/09/11 5:45pm

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Layzie said:

ScarletScandal said:

Lol! This is like a damn game now! "Guess where Beyonce got her influence/stole from" lol

..and everybody wins!

lol I know, right. I wonder who she's gonna be "inspired" by next.

Lol. Next videos will be "Party" and "Dance For You".

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Reply #54 posted 10/09/11 6:00pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Layzie said:

lol I know, right. I wonder who she's gonna be "inspired" by next.

Lol. Next videos will be "Party" and "Dance For You".

Ugh! I wish she would do "End of Time" as a damn single! That's my favorite song off the album.

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Reply #55 posted 10/09/11 8:37pm

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KidaDynamite said:

paisleypark4 said:

The only thing I said was that the artist didnt even KNOW her work was being re-done. That's the part that is pretty shady.

She being 30 now it's like...come on chile you should know better, she not Hanna...she know what she is doing. There comes a time to be "cute young and inspired" but not by 30...that is just a cheap.

I have her last three albums, I have a like her hae her relationship. She puts on a great show...she has two good albums of her four...Counts for something.

lol

I still think you're cute, though. batting eyes

hug kisses

I like the New Edition tribute for Love On Top..think it's cute.

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Reply #56 posted 10/09/11 10:54pm

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ScarletScandal said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Lol. Next videos will be "Party" and "Dance For You".

Ugh! I wish she would do "End of Time" as a damn single! That's my favorite song off the album.

I believe she DID do a video for it, but don't quote me.

I know for a fact she did videos for Party, Dance For You, I Miss You and Schoolin Life

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Reply #57 posted 10/09/11 11:55pm

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Yal think this is somethin now wait until the baby is born. Jr. will be showcased EVERYWHERE and in EVERY video.

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Reply #58 posted 10/10/11 5:16am

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Oh so the Love on Top video is a New Edition tribute? Didn't even think of that. Makes sense though because there are obvious 80's and 90's influences in the songs on 4 and she payed homage in Countdown already.

Now I can't wait to see Schooling Life if there's a video for that.

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Reply #59 posted 10/10/11 8:43am

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lavender1983 said:

Oh so the Love on Top video is a New Edition tribute? Didn't even think of that. Makes sense though because there are obvious 80's and 90's influences in the songs on 4 and she payed homage in Countdown already.

Now I can't wait to see Schooling Life if there's a video for that.

"Tribute"???

...sure. We'll go with that lol

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