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Reply #30 posted 09/21/11 7:00am

mjscarousal

TotalAlisa said:

mjscarousal said:

Adele is definitly not a mediocre singer. She doesnt yell, she doesnt strain and seems to have technical control of her singiing.

If she isnt your cup of tea thats understandable but compared to many of her peers, she is a good singer.

she is a good singer not great or one of the greatest and the way people talk about how great her voice is, I would have expected more. Thats all

She isnt the greatest singer ever but that doesnt mean she is not a good singer thats all im saying.

I dont think Adele is overrated.

She doesnt win alot of rewards unlike her peers who are undeserving. No one isnt giving her any title. Yes she is popular now but that solely is based on her MUSIC. Not her looks, movies, music videos, marketing tactics etc.. I am happy for her success.. I would much rather her be popular for at least putting out descent music than alot of her peers who put out mediocre songs and just sell their image. I feel her success shows how our society is trying to embrace talent and good music more than popularity and image

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Reply #31 posted 09/21/11 7:21am

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Man even the good artists like Janelle & Adele get teared down on this bored for not having ''good voices'.

I don't know about a 'good voice,' but Adele sings 1000x better than Janelle Monae hands down. She is, at least, on key.

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Reply #32 posted 09/21/11 7:25am

mjscarousal

^^^ Are you speaking about live performances or just in general?

I think they both sing on key for the most part. Adele has more of a stronger voice though. Janelle voice is more unique and she is able to do different things with it.

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Reply #33 posted 09/21/11 8:15am

Unholyalliance

mjscarousal said:

^^^ Are you speaking about live performances or just in general?

I think they both sing on key for the most part. Adele has more of a stronger voice though. Janelle voice is more unique and she is able to do different things with it.

In general, but definitely in terms of performing. When Janelle hits certain notes she goes completely off key. Her sing talk songs are less offensive to my ears.

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Reply #34 posted 09/21/11 8:20am

Timmy84

I dig Janelle's voice. It's not perfect but with HER energy I actually don't expect it to be but people like to trash on her because of that. shrug

I don't know what some folks are really looking for sometimes...

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Reply #35 posted 09/21/11 8:30am

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i see it like this, if a person is able to sell the emotion of the song i could care less how many octaves she has. how many did Barry White have? how many does Janet Jackson have? I mean i don't think Amy Winehouse even had that great of a range in terms of octaves.

not getting on you about your opinion or anything but for me, more octaves isn't always better for the situation. quality over quantity and all that jazz. cool

[Edited 9/20/11 21:16pm]

don't even bring janet into this. NO ONE EVER SAID janet was an amazing singer. She is an entertainer/dancer.

its more of taste, but the only issue I have is, I seen SO MANY people who are able to perform Adeles music just as good as if her sometimes better. So what makes her so special vocally speaking. I know she writes her music so that in itself is a talent.

Im just not impressed with her voice thats all. If I didnt hear so many people saying how great she is of singer, so then im thinking she is like mariah/whitney carey houston or even celine dion, then I decide to listen to a random song of hers and I didn't see what they kept talking about.

I understand why people want to like her all Im saying is for people to not act like she has this extraordinary voice when its not.

ps. I don't care about octaves either I just felt someone of her vocal range should not be getting that music praise for her voice.

i was just trying to tiptoe around the Janet stans with that one... lol

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Reply #36 posted 09/21/11 8:34am

Timmy84

Mdizzles said:

TotalAlisa said:

don't even bring janet into this. NO ONE EVER SAID janet was an amazing singer. She is an entertainer/dancer.

its more of taste, but the only issue I have is, I seen SO MANY people who are able to perform Adeles music just as good as if her sometimes better. So what makes her so special vocally speaking. I know she writes her music so that in itself is a talent.

Im just not impressed with her voice thats all. If I didnt hear so many people saying how great she is of singer, so then im thinking she is like mariah/whitney carey houston or even celine dion, then I decide to listen to a random song of hers and I didn't see what they kept talking about.

I understand why people want to like her all Im saying is for people to not act like she has this extraordinary voice when its not.

ps. I don't care about octaves either I just felt someone of her vocal range should not be getting that music praise for her voice.

i was just trying to tiptoe around the Janet stans with that one... lol

But you don't get that you're only going to add more drama if you're not careful. wink lol

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Reply #37 posted 09/21/11 9:09am

Unholyalliance

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I dig Janelle's voice. It's not perfect but with HER energy I actually don't expect it to be but people like to trash on her because of that. shrug

I don't know what some folks are really looking for sometimes...

It's not about her singing voice, which I think is quite nice tbqh, but it's more of her technique. It is possible to sing a song and hit the notes correctly, especially when you are standing still and singing. If she can work on that I am pretty sure she will find way more success than she is right now, at least in the US. Right now I think she's all gimmick. Adele is less gimmicky and she sings better.

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Reply #38 posted 09/21/11 9:29am

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To each their own, but those who are saying she has an ok voice need to get out more. She has a very good voice, writes honest lyrics people can relate to, and her songs appeal to multi-generations. Unlike most "pop" music out there...the singers can't sing without autotune, the songs have no melody or structure, and the music is plastic and only appeal to teenyboppers . It's nice to see an artist with actual talent, creating appealing music that people are diggin.

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Reply #39 posted 09/21/11 9:31am

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Poplife88 said:

To each their own, but those who are saying she has an ok voice need to get out more. She has a very good voice, writes honest lyrics people can relate to, and her songs appeal to multi-generations. Unlike most "pop" music out there...the singers can't sing without autotune, the songs have no melody or structure, and the music is plastic and only appeal to teenyboppers . It's nice to see an artist with actual talent, creating appealing music that people are diggin.

reating appealing music that some people are diggin.

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Reply #40 posted 09/21/11 9:33am

mjscarousal

Unholyalliance said:

Timmy84 said:

I dig Janelle's voice. It's not perfect but with HER energy I actually don't expect it to be but people like to trash on her because of that. shrug

I don't know what some folks are really looking for sometimes...

It's not about her singing voice, which I think is quite nice tbqh, but it's more of her technique. It is possible to sing a song and hit the notes correctly, especially when you are standing still and singing. If she can work on that I am pretty sure she will find way more success than she is right now, at least in the US. Right now I think she's all gimmick. Adele is less gimmicky and she sings better.

What makes you think she is all gimmick? The fact that when she does those great performances she is off key makes her gimmicky? Yea I agree sometimes she is off key when she performs but I dont understand how thats makes her all gimmick when her material obviously shows she is extremely talented, takes risks and is creative.

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Reply #41 posted 09/21/11 9:43am

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Graycap23 said:

Poplife88 said:

To each their own, but those who are saying she has an ok voice need to get out more. She has a very good voice, writes honest lyrics people can relate to, and her songs appeal to multi-generations. Unlike most "pop" music out there...the singers can't sing without autotune, the songs have no melody or structure, and the music is plastic and only appeal to teenyboppers . It's nice to see an artist with actual talent, creating appealing music that people are diggin.

reating appealing music that some people are diggin.

See the first four words of my post.

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Reply #42 posted 09/21/11 9:46am

Graycap23

Poplife88 said:

Graycap23 said:

reating appealing music that some people are diggin.

See the first four words of my post.

wink

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Reply #43 posted 09/21/11 9:50am

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Ok let me get this straight, she's a big white girl who has a nice voice? Let me go YouTube her then.
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Reply #44 posted 09/21/11 10:59am

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This is one of those "i'm not even sure I should respond" kind of threads.

Because upon hearing Adele for the first time I got goosebumps and was like "damn". It was IMMEDIATE.

So, I guess you either get it or you don't?

To echo what a lot of other people have mentioned, she's a singer/songwriter of incredible talent and soul for her years. That's what I love about her. I gotta admit, I even have a bit of a crush. And i'm not into big girls. But with that voice? DAMN.

i'm a huge fan.

http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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Reply #45 posted 09/21/11 11:15am

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I love this song. cool

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #46 posted 09/21/11 1:15pm

TotalAlisa

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ButterscotchPimp said:

This is one of those "i'm not even sure I should respond" kind of threads.

Because upon hearing Adele for the first time I got goosebumps and was like "damn". It was IMMEDIATE.

So, I guess you either get it or you don't?

To echo what a lot of other people have mentioned, she's a singer/songwriter of incredible talent and soul for her years. That's what I love about her. I gotta admit, I even have a bit of a crush. And i'm not into big girls. But with that voice? DAMN.

i'm a huge fan.

please tell me which song gave you goose bumps.

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Reply #47 posted 09/21/11 1:25pm

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^

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Reply #48 posted 09/21/11 1:33pm

TotalAlisa

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. adele is talented

[Edited 9/14/23 9:42am]

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Reply #49 posted 09/21/11 2:17pm

mjscarousal

Poplife88 said:

To each their own, but those who are saying she has an ok voice need to get out more. She has a very good voice, writes honest lyrics people can relate to, and her songs appeal to multi-generations. Unlike most "pop" music out there...the singers can't sing without autotune, the songs have no melody or structure, and the music is plastic and only appeal to teenyboppers . It's nice to see an artist with actual talent, creating appealing music that people are diggin.

Basically... her peers such as Beyonce and Rihanna are WAY more overrated than her

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Reply #50 posted 09/21/11 3:40pm

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TotalAlisa said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

This is one of those "i'm not even sure I should respond" kind of threads.

Because upon hearing Adele for the first time I got goosebumps and was like "damn". It was IMMEDIATE.

So, I guess you either get it or you don't?

To echo what a lot of other people have mentioned, she's a singer/songwriter of incredible talent and soul for her years. That's what I love about her. I gotta admit, I even have a bit of a crush. And i'm not into big girls. But with that voice? DAMN.

i'm a huge fan.

please tell me which song gave you goose bumps.

http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #51 posted 09/21/11 3:43pm

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ButterscotchPimp said:

TotalAlisa said:

please tell me which song gave you goose bumps.

and your point?

Adele>98% of the crap that's out right now

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Reply #52 posted 09/21/11 5:00pm

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Every other year, the music industry finds some dowdy, decidely unsexy, underdog female singer, who is as pedestrian as sin, to rally behind and exploit in a bid to seem less shallow and more 'credible' than the year before. Susan Boyle, Amy Winehouse, Sara Bareilles, Norah Jones, Paula Cole, Joan Osbourne, etc., etc. Adele is just the latest in a long line of middle-of-the-road 'Plain Jane' coffee-house singers who the industry is trying to play Cinderella with for 15 minutes.

I'm not at all convinced that Adele isn't some passing fad, and that the majority of her 'fans' aren't lemmings who like her simply because she's 'the one to like' this year. That many of the comments supporting her have as much to do with her supposedly being 'refreshing' because she's isn't model-esque or sexy as her music tells me that it's as much about "image" for her supporters as it is about any other female singer.

[Edited 9/21/11 17:14pm]

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Reply #53 posted 09/21/11 5:06pm

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...but I will say that even if I'm not at all impressed by Adele's actual shtick, if there's one thing I *do* appreciate about her is that she's upstaged Gaga and cock-blocked her from being the years center of attention -- which is clearly what her camp was plotting.

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Reply #54 posted 09/21/11 9:12pm

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chamber said:

Every other year, the music industry finds some dowdy, decidely unsexy, underdog female singer, who is as pedestrian as sin, to rally behind and exploit in a bid to seem less shallow and more 'credible' than the year before. Susan Boyle, Amy Winehouse, Sara Bareilles, Norah Jones, Paula Cole, Joan Osbourne, etc., etc. Adele is just the latest in a long line of middle-of-the-road 'Plain Jane' coffee-house singers who the industry is trying to play Cinderella with for 15 minutes.

I'm not at all convinced that Adele isn't some passing fad, and that the majority of her 'fans' aren't lemmings who like her simply because she's 'the one to like' this year. That many of the comments supporting her have as much to do with her supposedly being 'refreshing' because she's isn't model-esque or sexy as her music tells me that it's as much about "image" for her supporters as it is about any other female singer.

[Edited 9/21/11 17:14pm]

the only thing that will make your "argument" somewhat plausible is you providing examples of what you think is "relevant". Knocking all of the singers you've listed isn't a crime, but not explaining who you think is "better" is kind of bush league. i'll put Adele/AmyWinehouse/Norah Jones above most of the bullshit that passes for "relevant" i.e. (Gaga, Swift, Rihanna, whothefuckever).

so who exactly are you dick riding for? that will explain EVERYTHING.

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Reply #55 posted 09/22/11 1:50am

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chamber said:

Every other year, the music industry finds some dowdy, decidely unsexy, underdog female singer, who is as pedestrian as sin, to rally behind and exploit in a bid to seem less shallow and more 'credible' than the year before. Susan Boyle, Amy Winehouse, Sara Bareilles, Norah Jones, Paula Cole, Joan Osbourne, etc., etc. Adele is just the latest in a long line of middle-of-the-road 'Plain Jane' coffee-house singers who the industry is trying to play Cinderella with for 15 minutes.

I'm not at all convinced that Adele isn't some passing fad, and that the majority of her 'fans' aren't lemmings who like her simply because she's 'the one to like' this year. That many of the comments supporting her have as much to do with her supposedly being 'refreshing' because she's isn't model-esque or sexy as her music tells me that it's as much about "image" for her supporters as it is about any other female singer.

[Edited 9/21/11 17:14pm]

That's what I pegged her for when I heard "Chasing Pavements" when she first came out. She clearly was riding in the wake of Amy's success. I thought she'd disappear. This album 21 proved me wrong. She's dominating around the world this year and is having exceptional success. I hope she's enjoying it because it will be impossible to sustain.

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Reply #56 posted 09/22/11 8:24am

Unholyalliance

mjscarousal said:

What makes you think she is all gimmick? The fact that when she does those great performances she is off key makes her gimmicky? Yea I agree sometimes she is off key when she performs but I dont understand how thats makes her all gimmick when her material obviously shows she is extremely talented, takes risks and is creative.

Personally, I feel that anytime your gimkmick makes more noise then your actual art...it is a bad thing. I mean, it is cool that you have influenced people style-wise, but as an artist, I think that you have failed yourself greatly.

I mean, every artist out there has a gimmick of some sort. You have to otherwise how would you makrket yourself? In her case her quirkiness IS her gimmick. The hair, the pantsuits, the clown dancing...that is her gimmick.

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Reply #57 posted 09/22/11 9:05am

mjscarousal

Unholyalliance said:

mjscarousal said:

What makes you think she is all gimmick? The fact that when she does those great performances she is off key makes her gimmicky? Yea I agree sometimes she is off key when she performs but I dont understand how thats makes her all gimmick when her material obviously shows she is extremely talented, takes risks and is creative.

Personally, I feel that anytime your gimkmick makes more noise then your actual art...it is a bad thing. I mean, it is cool that you have influenced people style-wise, but as an artist, I think that you have failed yourself greatly.

I mean, every artist out there has a gimmick of some sort. You have to otherwise how would you makrket yourself? In her case her quirkiness IS her gimmick. The hair, the pantsuits, the clown dancing...that is her gimmick.

You mean James Brown moves??

I understand where your coming from but correct me if I'm wrong but what I got from your last post was that she sales here gimmick MORE than her talent and music which is completely not true. I can name 5 other artists that sales a gimmick MORE than their music.

Shes talented and she makes pretty good music. To me, she seems to sale that more and care about that more than her image. Because if she did just care about saling a gimmick her music would reflect that but it doesnt.

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Reply #58 posted 09/22/11 10:55am

Timmy84

ButterscotchPimp said:

This is one of those "i'm not even sure I should respond" kind of threads.

Because upon hearing Adele for the first time I got goosebumps and was like "damn". It was IMMEDIATE.

So, I guess you either get it or you don't?

To echo what a lot of other people have mentioned, she's a singer/songwriter of incredible talent and soul for her years. That's what I love about her. I gotta admit, I even have a bit of a crush. And i'm not into big girls. But with that voice? DAMN.

i'm a huge fan.

Exactly! nod

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Reply #59 posted 09/22/11 10:57am

Timmy84

mjscarousal said:

Unholyalliance said:

Personally, I feel that anytime your gimkmick makes more noise then your actual art...it is a bad thing. I mean, it is cool that you have influenced people style-wise, but as an artist, I think that you have failed yourself greatly.

I mean, every artist out there has a gimmick of some sort. You have to otherwise how would you makrket yourself? In her case her quirkiness IS her gimmick. The hair, the pantsuits, the clown dancing...that is her gimmick.

You mean James Brown moves??

I understand where your coming from but correct me if I'm wrong but what I got from your last post was that she sales here gimmick MORE than her talent and music which is completely not true. I can name 5 other artists that sales a gimmick MORE than their music.

Shes talented and she makes pretty good music. To me, she seems to sale that more and care about that more than her image. Because if she did just care about saling a gimmick her music would reflect that but it doesnt.

Yeah I don't get how she supposedly sells more gimmick than talent because when I hear her (and see her perform) I don't see much of a gimmick, I see someone who put her blood, sweat and tears into anything she's done and that's not gimmick, least to me.

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