Adele

Alicia Keys

Pink

Janelle Monae

Melanie fiona

Justin timberlake

Usher

Bruno Mars

Britney Spears

Christina Aguilera

Beyonce

Brandy

Monica

Chris Brown

Aaliyah

Rihanna

Fantasia

Amy Winehouse

[Edited 9/10/11 12:10pm]

Only this one

This one

And this one

To be honest, I think it's too early to tell for a lot of them. If I had to pick, I would say Alicia Keys, Usher, Adele and Bruno Mars all have "timeless" songs in their catalog.

Usher's "Yeah" will forever be a dancefloor staple, "You Make Me Wanna," "U Reminde Me," and "Nice and Slow" will forever be r&b staples.

Alicia Keys' "Fallin," "Diary," and "Unthinkable" will never die.

Bruno Mars' "Just The Way You Are" will be sang FOREVER.

Only time will tell.

Not them particularly, but some of their hits will remain in the same way that other hits are still around like Afternoon Delight and Wooly Bully

But lets add some other current artists to this equation

Radiohead

John Mayer

Erikyah Badu

Jill Scott

D'Angelo

Foo Fighters

Jay Z

Eminem

Cold Play

...

Unholyalliance said:

Only time will tell.

Thats a perfect answer for that.

But as for right now based on all of these artists calalogs so far STANDING THE TEST OF TIME.... is a huge NO.

Music that stands the test of time are classics, timeless and has no generation or era on it.

Adele and Janalle Monae have great overall catalogues though. Amy does to.

NDRU said:

Not them particularly, but some of their hits will remain in the same way that other hits are still around like Afternoon Delight and Wooly Bully

But lets add some other current artists to this equation

Radiohead

John Mayer

Erikyah Badu

Jill Scott

D'Angelo

Foo Fighters

Jay Z

Eminem

Cold Play

...

Definitly Erykah, Jill, D Angelo, Radiohead, some John Mayer, has a great chance... have hella good catalogues... no antics, hype, music for popularity etc... just good music..

The only reason any music "stands the test of time" is because the record companies and/or oldies & classic rock radio stations promote and play old hits. Some acts themselves do it by performing oldies shows or participating in programs like Doo Wop 50 on PBS. Even imposter groups keep the music out there. Some old songs are used in commercials, movies, and TV shows. But there's a lot more old hits that aren't played on the radio or they're out of print and don't make it to Time Life (or K-Tel in the past) compilations and so they're forgotten.

NDRU said:

Not them particularly, but some of their hits will remain in the same way that other hits are still around like Afternoon Delight and Wooly Bully

But lets add some other current artists to this equation

Radiohead

John Mayer

Erikyah Badu

Jill Scott

D'Angelo

Foo Fighters

Jay Z

Eminem

Cold Play

...

also maxwell

HAPPYPERSON said:

NDRU said:

Not them particularly, but some of their hits will remain in the same way that other hits are still around like Afternoon Delight and Wooly Bully

But lets add some other current artists to this equation

Radiohead

John Mayer

Erikyah Badu

Jill Scott

D'Angelo

Foo Fighters

Jay Z

Eminem

Cold Play

...

also maxwell

definitely, him too.

there are lots of them, I just listed the first few popular ones that came to mind

What about The White Stripes?

MickyDolenz said:

The only reason any music "stands the test of time" is because the record companies and/or oldies & classic rock radio stations promote and play old hits. Some acts themselves do it by performing oldies shows or participating in programs like Doo Wop 50 on PBS. Even imposter groups keep the music out there. Some old songs are used in commercials, movies, and TV shows. But there's a lot more old hits that aren't played on the radio or they're out of print and don't make it to Time Life (or K-Tel in the past) compilations and so they're forgotten.

Very true, but you must also take into fact that ALL of the music played on radio is tested. The majority of the music tests are conducted with and for women. That plays a major part into why you hear the same oldies over and over on standard radio.

As for the forgotten songs, there are tons of them. A song that doesn't chart or wasn't a top 20 hit usually goes by the wasteside. Compilations are made to sell and if they don't contain music that people want to buy, then it won't be printed.

Very doubtful. None of them are even halfway decent musicians or songwriters, except for Alicia Keys.

Those aren't great artists. Those are pop stars, mostly medicore ones at that.

daPrettyman said:

Very true, but you must also take into fact that ALL of the music played on radio is tested. The majority of the music tests are conducted with and for women. That plays a major part into why you hear the same oldies over and over on standard radio.

There's a local AM station that plays a lot of old soul, blues, funk, and R&B (even zydeco) that the other Clear Channel run oldies stations don't play. It doesn't play the same stuff over and over.

MickyDolenz said:

daPrettyman said:

Very true, but you must also take into fact that ALL of the music played on radio is tested. The majority of the music tests are conducted with and for women. That plays a major part into why you hear the same oldies over and over on standard radio.

There's a local AM station that plays a lot of old soul, blues, funk, and R&B (even zydeco) that the other Clear Channel run oldies stations don't play. It doesn't play the same stuff over and over.

A lot of markets have Soul AM stations that don't play the same thing over and over. We have one here in DFW that is not owned by Clear Channel. AM radio's ratings are dismal compared to their FM counter parts.

Our local AM station plays things that are LONG out of print as well as blues, zydeco, and a live blues show from a local blues club every Saturday. Not to mention the old classics. The guy who is the PD is about 70 years old and KNOWS his stuff. He has been in Dallas long enough to know what was big here and what a regional hit was as well as a national hit.

In Dallas, our local AM station averages about 60,000 listeners where it's FM AC counterpart (also owned by the same local company) averages about 600,000 listeners.

That is why I say it's all about the amout of listeners you have for your format.

daPrettyman said:

MickyDolenz said:

The only reason any music "stands the test of time" is because the record companies and/or oldies & classic rock radio stations promote and play old hits. Some acts themselves do it by performing oldies shows or participating in programs like Doo Wop 50 on PBS. Even imposter groups keep the music out there. Some old songs are used in commercials, movies, and TV shows. But there's a lot more old hits that aren't played on the radio or they're out of print and don't make it to Time Life (or K-Tel in the past) compilations and so they're forgotten.

Very true, but you must also take into fact that ALL of the music played on radio is tested. The majority of the music tests are conducted with and for women. That plays a major part into why you hear the same oldies over and over on standard radio.

As for the forgotten songs, there are tons of them. A song that doesn't chart or wasn't a top 20 hit usually goes by the wasteside. Compilations are made to sell and if they don't contain music that people want to buy, then it won't be printed.

Not sure I fully agree with these arguments. People's love of music also keeps many artist's work alive, radio play or not.

Word of mouth can still be a good selling point.

Cloudbuster said:

daPrettyman said:

Very true, but you must also take into fact that ALL of the music played on radio is tested. The majority of the music tests are conducted with and for women. That plays a major part into why you hear the same oldies over and over on standard radio.

As for the forgotten songs, there are tons of them. A song that doesn't chart or wasn't a top 20 hit usually goes by the wasteside. Compilations are made to sell and if they don't contain music that people want to buy, then it won't be printed.

Not sure I fully agree with these arguments. People's love of music also keeps many artist's work alive, radio play or not.

Word of mouth can still be a good selling point.

That's true. Word of mouth is very powerful.

Janelle Monae and Adele.

daPrettyman said:

Cloudbuster said:

Not sure I fully agree with these arguments. People's love of music also keeps many artist's work alive, radio play or not.

Word of mouth can still be a good selling point.

That's true. Word of mouth is very powerful.

well now with the internet sales pretty much go out the window. As for standing the test of time that's something totally different, labels are not "catalog" minded now, they are only interested in the older artists catalog, they know they can still sell the "best of" billy joel, the eagles, elton, michael jackson etc... this is stuff that will always bring in cash for them, but because now the mindset of a label is make money today not tomorrow, and the thinking for the last 20 years and its narrow minded marekting has been all about week one sales, no one really has a chance to grow and get a catalog, i mean they are already talking about the elimination of full length albums, so what is your catalog filled with? and where are u going with it? "hey here are my 11 songs on itunes" whats that?

I do think some like Adele, Alicia, and a few others can get by, Norah Jones is another, Coldplay etc..but u arent going to get sales on a Tpain record ten years from now. Things are very limited now because the focuse is not your music.

Some of the huge pop stars of this generation you dismiss will probably have catalogs that will stand the test of time because there are more than enough younger listeners who are crazy over them. Just as our parents loved the Beatles, Stones, the Who, Jimi Hendrix, etc., and our younger parents, uncles, and aunts loved the stars of the 70's like Led Zeppelin, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sex Pistols, Bee Gees, etc., and most of us who grew up in the 80's love Prince, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Duran Duran, U2, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, etc., and those in the 90's love Mariah Carey, Nirvana, 2Pac. Pearl Jam, Biggie Smalls, etc., this generation has its own heroes who they love passionately but have no relevance to us older folks. That doesn't mean their music isn't legitimate.

Having said that, there are artists who have timeless catalogs yet are so polarizing that people either love them passionately or hate them so much they want to vomit. I know a lot of people who never understood Kiss, and a lot of fans love Foreigner, Styx, and Journey, yet hipsters from that same time period feel the need to slit their wrists with a dull razor blade every time they hear their songs on the radio, TV. or in commericals. I'm sure a lot of fans of 90's music feel the same way about Celine Dion, and this younger generation probably feels the same way about Nickelback.

mjscarousal said:

Unholyalliance said:

Only time will tell.

Thats a perfect answer for that.

But as for right now based on all of these artists calalogs so far STANDING THE TEST OF TIME.... is a huge NO.

Music that stands the test of time are classics, timeless and has no generation or era on it.

Adele and Janalle Monae have great overall catalogues though. Amy does to.

Agree with you MJ---to me it seems like the record companies don't develop the artist's talent long enough to give them room to change and grow with the music. A lot of the stuff now seems soulless but I think even the notion of "celebrity" is changing now because anyone can kind of make themselves famous these days and too many celebrities use social networking too much and it makes them less mysterious *cough* Chris Brown *cough*

by the way, why in the world wasn't Lady Gaga included in the list of those who will have their catalogued revered? I think she's the best new pop artist that's come in the past 20 years or so.

[Edited 9/10/11 20:20pm]

Half the people Happyperson listed have been around for more than a decade.

SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

Thats a perfect answer for that.

But as for right now based on all of these artists calalogs so far STANDING THE TEST OF TIME.... is a huge NO.

Music that stands the test of time are classics, timeless and has no generation or era on it.

Adele and Janalle Monae have great overall catalogues though. Amy does to.

Agree with you MJ---to me it seems like the record companies don't develop the artist's talent long enough to give them room to change and grow with the music. A lot of the stuff now seems soulless but I think even the notion of "celebrity" is changing now because anyone can kind of make themselves famous these days and too many celebrities use social networking too much and it makes them less mysterious *cough* Chris Brown *cough*

by the way, why in the world wasn't Lady Gaga included in the list of those who will have their catalogued revered? I think she's the best new pop artist that's come in the past 20 years or so.

[Edited 9/10/11 20:20pm]

^oops i know i was forgetting somebody, Lady Gaga included

728huey said:

Some of the huge pop stars of this generation you dismiss will probably have catalogs that will stand the test of time because there are more than enough younger listeners who are crazy over them. Just as our parents loved the Beatles, Stones, the Who, Jimi Hendrix, etc., and our younger parents, uncles, and aunts loved the stars of the 70's like Led Zeppelin, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sex Pistols, Bee Gees, etc., and most of us who grew up in the 80's love Prince, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Duran Duran, U2, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, etc., and those in the 90's love Mariah Carey, Nirvana, 2Pac. Pearl Jam, Biggie Smalls, etc., this generation has its own heroes who they love passionately but have no relevance to us older folks. That doesn't mean their music isn't legitimate.

Having said that, there are artists who have timeless catalogs yet are so polarizing that people either love them passionately or hate them so much they want to vomit. I know a lot of people who never understood Kiss, and a lot of fans love Foreigner, Styx, and Journey, yet hipsters from that same time period feel the need to slit their wrists with a dull razor blade every time they hear their songs on the radio, TV. or in commericals. I'm sure a lot of fans of 90's music feel the same way about Celine Dion, and this younger generation probably feels the same way about Nickelback.

You are like the real Huey Freeman

That was a fantatsic and very true statement

This is a very interetsing question cause you can never be sure, whether you like them or not artists like Rihanna will be remmebered in the 00's years when people think of music. The chick has gotten over 30 top 40 hits and while she is just a robot for her company she still has a ton of hits. And has collaborated quite a bit to. The White Stripes to me will be the rock heroes of the 00's generation along with possibly Queens Of The Stone Age & others who made great track's. I despise Nickelback to death, but Huey is right as much hate as they get they had hits.... and for all we know U Remind Me could grow to be the Don't Stop Believing of 2025. It gives me chills to think that but you never know!

Also i think artists like Pink, Lupe Fiasco & i'm putting Kanye in here to who offer more personal songs in there category and experimentation. Will be played years from now guarantee like them or not, I also don't care much for GaGa but denying her impact is silly there is no doubt some of her hits will get play years to come.

But i also wonder what hits will stay from which artists and which will become the lesser played? Elton John has 56 top 40 hits yet Rocket Man, Crocodile Rock, Candle In The Wind, Your Song, Tiny Dancer, I Guess That's Why They Call It the Blues & Don't Let The Sun Go Down on me get the most play. When is the last time someone played club at the end of the street or border song?
Stevie Wonder has 33 top 10 hits but i only ever hear Superstition, My Cherie Amor, Sir Duke, I Just Called To Say I Love You, Uptight, For Once In My Life & occasionally Part Time Lover. When is the last time you heard Living For The City or Master Blaster on radio?

Now i am just speaking from personal experience of radio-play in my hometown in Texas to mu current home in Hollywood. Those are the only songs i hear from those artists...
So to me the biggest question is more of which hits will get the most play years to come?

BRITNEY SPEARS BETCHES

Gunsnhalen said:

This is a very interetsing question cause you can never be sure, whether you like them or not artists like Rihanna will be remmebered in the 00's years when people think of music. The chick has gotten over 30 top 40 hits and while she is just a robot for her company she still has a ton of hits. And has collaborated quite a bit to. The White Stripes to me will be the rock heroes of the 00's generation along with possibly Queens Of The Stone Age & others who made great track's. I despise Nickelback to death, but Huey is right as much hate as they get they had hits.... and for all we know U Remind Me could grow to be the Don't Stop Believing of 2025. It gives me chills to think that but you never know!

Also i think artists like Pink, Lupe Fiasco & i'm putting Kanye in here to who offer more personal songs in there category and experimentation. Will be played years from now guarantee like them or not, I also don't care much for GaGa but denying her impact is silly there is no doubt some of her hits will get play years to come.

But i also wonder what hits will stay from which artists and which will become the lesser played? Elton John has 56 top 40 hits yet Rocket Man, Crocodile Rock, Candle In The Wind, Your Song, Tiny Dancer, I Guess That's Why They Call It the Blues & Don't Let The Sun Go Down on me get the most play. When is the last time someone played club at the end of the street or border song?
Stevie Wonder has 33 top 10 hits but i only ever hear Superstition, My Cherie Amor, Sir Duke, I Just Called To Say I Love You, Uptight, For Once In My Life & occasionally Part Time Lover. When is the last time you heard Living For The City or Master Blaster on radio?

Now i am just speaking from personal experience of radio-play in my hometown in Texas to mu current home in Hollywood. Those are the only songs i hear from those artists...
So to me the biggest question is more of which hits will get the most play years to come?

Being remembered and calling something a song that will stand the test of time are TWO DIFFERENT things. Marvin Gayes Got to give it up is a classic that has stood the test of time and forever will.... there is NO artist well at least popular artist so far that has an entire catalogue of classics that has a run for it. Of course when people look back they will remember so and so was popular but that doesnt necessarily mean PEOPLE as in the PUBLIC will still be playing their music. Most pop music is only fads and dont stand the test of time unless your a pop artist like Michael Jackson who has generations of music.