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New article about Janet's 1989 masterpiece, RHYTHM NATION
link:http://www.impre.com/la-g...4978856330
Janet Jackson created a pop masterpiece back in 1989. Today it shines more than ever. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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Thanks for sharing, I also believe this is her best album start to finish and best era. | |
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You're welcome. It's definately the album the solidified her status as a pop icon. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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AWESOME read and YES this solidified her name in the history books.....I LOVE thos masterpiece.....It was PURE Janet from Start to Finish! | |
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GENIUS album! In my opinion, she's never been able to top this one. | |
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Excellent album. A clear masterpiece. Songs were perfect in melody and arrangements. | |
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Hmm, the bit about the meat dress is an obvious dig at Lady Gaga but she has been very active when it comes to social issues (gay rights) while in recent years Janet is arguably most remembered for Nipplegate. Katy Perry may have sung about kissing a girl but Janet has hardly been shy about shoving her sexuality down the throats of the public (including the occasional foray into faux lesbianism). It seems a bit disingenuous to suggest that because of her lyrics Janet is in some way superior to Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. It's all just silly pop music. | |
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This is strictly the opinion of the writer of the article. He was speaking on that specific space in time about Janet, and comparing the RN-era Janet to that of today's female pop stars. It's not about superiority, it's about a time when a woman could dress up to her chin in all black and still take the pop music world by storm. And, I disagree, Janet is not most remembered for Nipplegate (a stupid word if I've ever heard one). It may be part of the lexicon, but she has certainly done a lot in her career since then. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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Nipplegate does get brought up unfortunately, by those who are not already familiar with her. I doubt it's like that with those who grew up on her and are familiar with her music. She put out great music after too though, I love all her albums, but my top 3 are RN, Velvet Rope and All For You...also love the first 2 albums. Crazy about the Janet album and Control, but mostly for the songs I love best. Damita Jo has a mix of her best ever, her average, and some of her worst IMO. 20 YO flows well and some of the songs are great, but it's really missing something, can't put my finger on it. I LOVE Discipline though for the most part, the sound, the style, the melodies etc. | |
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Yep, the SB thing is what most kids who weren't around or were too young in the 80s-90s know her for, and it's unfortunate because most of the artists they love and admire pattern their performances after Janet. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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The album still to this day is simply amazing. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records. | |
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I LOVEEEE RN. It is my favorite album from her and in my opinion her BEST WORKS.. from an artistically as well as entertainment standpoint.
I wish Janet could have stayed with this theme and maybe just evolved it. She always stayed tomboyish but she screamed empowerment and not just for women. Its sad that over the years she went a route that didnt help her legacy much. But I still got love for her nonetheless. | |
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I was a little disappointed this didn't come from a magazine. Honestly it needs a real good reassessment or something. Classic album though. | |
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I take your point about her image at the time but I would argue that someone like Adele, while not quite on the same scale, is having success with a similar image. It's kind of ironic that Janet abandoned that image and very much went the route of selling a sexy image in the years that followed.
As far as "the incident" I'm convinced that for a significant amount of people today if you say the name "Janet Jackson" that is the first thing that they think of. True, she has had success with her music since then but on a much smaller scale than she had before "the incident." It has been roughly ten years since she has had a top five hit of her own on the Billboard Hot 100, that is a significant drought. | |
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Looking back at Janet's career, I'm almost saddened it didn't reach like bigger levels than it should've. Maybe it was because she was with Virgin idk... I don't know, for some reason I think she had reached more people when she dressed all black and got hardcore with her dancing. Maybe that's just me though I liked it when she went sensual (and sexual) too. | |
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I'm not as big of a fan as you guys but I do like her. I think as far as the sexual image goes she just went too far. That's not to say that it was offensive but after a while it just felt like she was beating us over the head with the fact that she enjoyed sex. I was kind of hoping that after The Velvet Rope that she would do something a bit more artistic rather than continue with the pop star route. Now that she is getting older maybe for at least one album she will abandon pop music and show us a different side of her. | |
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Which is why she has taken other avenues in her career (i.e acting in films, writing a book), and has found great success with those things. That significant amount of people would mostly have to be the tween set, who, yes, would mostly know of the whole SB incident.
Anyway, the article is very true, in that the RN album helped pave the way for the succint way today's pop stars marry precise dance with fashion and video. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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She has spoken at length on her enjoyment of Brazillian jazz, and such artists as Cesaria Evoria. I'm hoping that with the new album, which will likely be out sometime next year, she will explore that route. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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Ne-Yo, Jermaine Dupri, or Rodney Jerkins never made her do background tracks like this:
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Jimmy & Terry were in rare form back then! Goddamn! | |
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I kinda feel that way too timmy, Janet was a megastar and a Pop Icon today however I think her career could've reach high levels similar to the height of Madonna. I wasn't born yet when Rhythm Nation was released, how big was the whole era? | |
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I was around 5, 6, 7 but it was huge in my view. She was all over MTV and BET then and all over the radio. In fact it was so big I was surprised it only sold the amount of copies it did. There was definitely a lot of good hype surrounding it. | |
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How big was the whole era? The RN Tour was and still is the biggest debut tour by any artist. It was massive, visiting several continents and selling out the Tokyo Dome faster than any other artist, a record it still holds. RN 1814 was the biggest selling album of 1990. RN is the only album in history to place 7 singles in the top 5 of Billboard's Hot 100 chart (Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA and MJ's Thriller achieved similar feats, though their 7 singles were a mixture of top 5 and top 10--these 3 are the only albums in history to achieve these feats). In 1990, Janet won a record 15 Billboard Awards for the album in one night. She is still the artist with the most Billboard Awards won. The RN album is the only album ever to achieve #1 hits in 3 sepearate calendar years (1989, 1990 and 1991). She won awards hand over fist for the album, from a Grammy to MTV and Soul Train awards to Billboard Awards and American Music Awards. There were scholarships set up in the Rhythm Nation name, and the album contributed to several kids going back to school to recieve their diplomas. RN 1814 is listed on several Must Hear album lists, and Greatest Pop Albums lists. She won MTV's coveted Video Vanguard Award in 1990, as well as MTVs Best Choreography award, beating out the likes of Madonna, Paula Abdul, MC Hammer, etc.
The reason you see videos like Chris Brown's "Yeah 3x" and Ciara's "Like a Boy", and Peter Andre's "Defender", etc., is because videos like Janet's "Alright" and "Rhythm Nation" made them possible. Even the opening of Gaga's "Alejandro" video was sighted as having an RN influence, as was Beyonce's performance of "Ring the Alarm" at the MTV Awards a few years ago. Also, Janet's look at the time is pretty much instilled in pop culture. The black cap, ponytail and militant RN garb was recently paid homage to in Keri Hilson's "Pretty Girl Rock" video.
Janet covered rock, pop, RnB, quiet storm, and hip-hop on the album. RN was also instrumental in making Janet the only artist in history to be nominated in the Rock, Rap, RnB, Pop and Dance categories at the Grammys, a record that still stands.
[Edited 8/1/11 13:46pm] "Get up off that grey line" | |
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LOL, I was 13 when it came out and yes, it was HUGE. I'm sure that if it was recertified (which a lot of her albums need to be), it would be close to if not pass diamond status.
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Big. This doesn't really address your question but what I remember most from that era was the rivalry between Janet and Paula Abdul. It didn't last long but for a little while Paula was huge and was doing something similar to Janet. | |
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^^ thanks for the info guys, seems like the rhythm Nation era was her biggest as far as hits, innovative videos, the tour, loads of awards , the album was the best selling of 1990 right? | |
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Yep. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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All the critical acclaim, and sales, yet she was still stiffed at the Grammys . Hey baby! Don't get me in here actin' silly now! You're not taping this are you... ???? | |
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Great article and still one of my favorite albums of all time after all these years. Most of my Janet collection is things related to this album, various promo vinyls, CD and cassette singles, etc.
This one might be my favorite though, the limited edition "Come Back To Me/Alright" 12" with included giant 1990 poster/calendar.
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