July 7, 2011

From Rolling Stone:

Nominees in order of most votes received:

Lady Gaga

Brtiney Spears

Tina Turner

Beyonce

Aretha

Katy Perry

Cher

Elton John

Mariah Carey

Link

^ @ Elton John. Damn they just ripped his manhood right from under that skirt.

Madonna kind of old to just now win the readers poll for queen of pop isn't she? I mean that crown is kind of dusty.

Tina Turner...Queen of Pop? Now that just sounds weird.

Janet not even on the list? Less votes than Elton?!

Goes to show only old people are paying Rolling Stone any attention.

lazycrockett said:

Goes to show only old people are paying Rolling Stone any attention.

"Old people" dig Lady Gaga and Katy Perry?

People have been calling her "Queen of Pop" for years. This isn't shocking.

[Edited 7/7/11 23:11pm]

No , it's a poll which in most cases doesn't qualify as "real news". But you knew that and proceeded to click on the thread anyway.

[Edited 7/7/11 19:57pm]

The1592 said:

People have been calling her "Queen of Pop" for years; is this really news?

Basically.

No other female artist has been as successful as Madonna. She's been called the 'Queen of Pop' for like 20 years. People are just reiterating what they know is true.

I have a feeling someone is going to come in here and try to dispute this by claiming their flop, has-been fave is the 'Queen of Pop'.

Wait for it...

teena marie is to madonna as

tori amos is to mariah carey

and as janelle monae is to lady gaga

that said

FUCK YEAH TO THIS LIST!!!!! just wish Janet were number 2 and Tina were 3 - aretha doesn't belong at ALL on a pop chart, lol

badujunkie said:

that said

FUCK YEAH TO THIS LIST!!!!! just wish Janet were number 2 and Tina were 3 - aretha doesn't belong at ALL on a pop chart, lol

I agree that Janet should be there and Aretha probably should not but do you really see Tina as a pop artist? Maybe it's because I prefer her earlier work but I never really thought of her as being pop.

Was this poll actually for Queen of Pop? Did they include Elton John to be funny?

Yes to both questions.

rialb said:

badujunkie said:

that said

FUCK YEAH TO THIS LIST!!!!! just wish Janet were number 2 and Tina were 3 - aretha doesn't belong at ALL on a pop chart, lol

I agree that Janet should be there and Aretha probably should not but do you really see Tina as a pop artist? Maybe it's because I prefer her earlier work but I never really thought of her as being pop.

100%. As a SOLO artist, Tina fuses rock, r&b, soul, some funk, some dance/electronic - basically, everything from Private Dancer on is POP. It may have the influences of rock n roll and the blues, but it was designed as state-of-the-art POP music for play on POP radio in its time, IMO.

badujunkie said:

rialb said:

I agree that Janet should be there and Aretha probably should not but do you really see Tina as a pop artist? Maybe it's because I prefer her earlier work but I never really thought of her as being pop.

100%. As a SOLO artist, Tina fuses rock, r&b, soul, some funk, some dance/electronic - basically, everything from Private Dancer on is POP. It may have the influences of rock n roll and the blues, but it was designed as state-of-the-art POP music for play on POP radio in its time, IMO.

In that case I strongly disagree that Tina Turner should be considered the third "best" female pop artist. She had a fairly brief run as a pop star (basically two albums in the mid '80s) and didn't really manage to have many huge hits. On merit there is no way she makes the top ten list of "best" female pop stars.

rialb said:

badujunkie said:

100%. As a SOLO artist, Tina fuses rock, r&b, soul, some funk, some dance/electronic - basically, everything from Private Dancer on is POP. It may have the influences of rock n roll and the blues, but it was designed as state-of-the-art POP music for play on POP radio in its time, IMO.

In that case I strongly disagree that Tina Turner should be considered the third "best" female pop artist. She had a fairly brief run as a pop star (basically two albums in the mid '80s) and didn't really manage to have many huge hits. On merit there is no way she makes the top ten list of "best" female pop stars.

2 pop albums in the 80s? So "Foreign Affair" and its hit singles "The Best" and "Steamy Windows" are NOT pop? That's called 'rock' or 'soul' or what is it?

Then even in the 90s and 00s all her new material started incorporating electronic dance music, in fact "Wildest Dreams" has lots of techno fused in there with big choruses, kind of the same trend Madonna had started doing in 1994 with 'Bedtime Story'...I'd say Tina's "Private Dancer" and beyond catalog is pop...yeah, i would. Those are pop producers and pop singles all the way.

badujunkie said:

rialb said:

In that case I strongly disagree that Tina Turner should be considered the third "best" female pop artist. She had a fairly brief run as a pop star (basically two albums in the mid '80s) and didn't really manage to have many huge hits. On merit there is no way she makes the top ten list of "best" female pop stars.

2 pop albums in the 80s? So "Foreign Affair" and its hit singles "The Best" and "Steamy Windows" are NOT pop? That's called 'rock' or 'soul' or what is it?

Then even in the 90s and 00s all her new material started incorporating electronic dance music, in fact "Wildest Dreams" has lots of techno fused in there with big choruses, kind of the same trend Madonna had started doing in 1994 with 'Bedtime Story'...I'd say Tina's "Private Dancer" and beyond catalog is pop...yeah, i would. Those are pop producers and pop singles all the way.

Oh, I'm not denying that her work from 1984-present is pop music. My point is that other than Private Dancer and Break Every Rule she hasn't been particularly successful as a pop artist. My argument was that as a huge pop star she had a relatively brief run.

Look at her career circa 1984-present. In that span you also had Madonna, Janet Jackson, Sade, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Sheryl Crow, Shania Twain, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Pink, Beyonce, Rihanna, Katy Perry and Lady Gaga. All huge stars who have eclipsed Tina as far as being pop stars is concerned. An argument could even be made that people like Cindy Lauper, Paula Abdul and Brandy were bigger and more successful pop stars than Tina Turner. I'm not saying that any or all of the above women are "better" than Tina but if you look at hit singles and/or album sales they all eclipse what she has managed to do. That's why I have a hard time seeing her as being the third "best" female pop star of the last 25 years. Her accomplishments as a pop star simply do not warrant her being in the top ten.

Janet Jackson's not on the list but Katy Perry is?

Aretha had some nice runs on the Pop charts during certain periods in her career but I hardly consider her a Pop singer. Same with Tina. She's always been more Soul & Rock than Pop.

I'm just a bit disturbed by the fact lady gaga came in second.

She's hasn't even been on the scene for five years. Are people really this fooled by the hype? I still believe that she's just a fad and her act will become tired if it hasn't already.

Duh @ Madonna being the Queen. Was there any question?

As to who's the princess is the better question...

Diana Ross should be the undisputed Queen of Pop.

dalsh327 said:

Diana Ross should be the undisputed Queen of Pop.

Diana Ross hasn't had a top 10 hit (or platinum album) in twenty-six years. She's a legend and all, but a pop queen...no.

chamber said:

dalsh327 said:

Diana Ross should be the undisputed Queen of Pop.

Diana Ross hasn't had a top 10 hit (or platinum album) in twenty-six years. She's a legend and all, but a pop queen...no.

you have to currently be on the chart to be the Queen of Pop?

bboy87 said:

chamber said:

Diana Ross hasn't had a top 10 hit (or platinum album) in twenty-six years. She's a legend and all, but a pop queen...no.

you have to currently be on the chart to be the Queen of Pop?

No, you don't have to be CURRENTLY on the charts to be the Queen of Pop...but the last time you were shouldn't be a quarter century ago.

mimi07 said:

7. Katy Perry
Remember the first time you heard "I Kissed A Girl" in early 2008? Whether you hated it or thought it was brilliant, you probably thought that Katy Perry's career would last about as long as Jill Sobule's – the last artist to land on the charts with a song called "I Kissed A Girl." Katy didn't pull a Sobule though. She just kept releasing shockingly popular hits. Even the haters can't hate on "Teenage Dream." It's just too good. Her second album seems to be a modern-day Thriller, just scoring number one hit after number one hit. She's now on a sold-out arena tour – and has been on the cover of Rolling Stone twice.

get over it mj your days are over.