The Jacksons recorded 5 albums with MJ on board. MJ was even lead singer on 4 of them, so there has to be some outtakes from those albums [From self-titled, Going Places, Destiny, Triumph, & Victory]. Where are they? Have the brothers even discussed anything about them yet? The family has already been capitalizing off of MJ's death anyway, & at least we'd know those tracks are legit. I would love to hear how those outtakes sound. Anybody else feel this way????

Always wanted to hear the outtake called "That Girl". I think it was for Destiny or Triumph.

The Jacksons as a group is not really that popular. Probably why they've been ignored by the record company. Some of their songs have been put on Mike compilations and pretty much credited as solo Mike songs. Motown has over 250 unreleased J5 songs, plus solo material recorded by Mike, Jermaine, Marlon, Tito, & Jackie. There has never been an official video release of the Jacksons/J5. A few videos were put on that Michael Vision DVD though.

MickyDolenz said: There has never been an official video release of the Jacksons/J5. A few videos were put on that Michael Vision DVD though.

I guess you meant none from the Motown-archives ?... otherwise there's "Blame It On The Boogie" and "Can You Feel It"

Shango said:

MickyDolenz said: There has never been an official video release of the Jacksons/J5. A few videos were put on that Michael Vision DVD though.

I guess you meant none from the Motown-archives ?... otherwise there's "Blame It On The Boogie" and "Can You Feel It"

Those 2 are on Vision, but had not been on any video release previously, except as excerpts on other Mike videotapes. But there has not been any group only videos or DVD's released. There's some J5 footage on the Ed Sullivan Show DVDs, but that is still part of someone else's set.

I have a feeling What's with all the Jackson thread creep thread may pop up soon

Emancipation89 said:

I have a feeling What's with all the Jackson thread creep thread may pop up soon

Boycotting the MJ sticky. Which I actually have no problems with now, as long as it don't spread to outside the non-Prince music forum.

MickyDolenz said:

Shango said:

I guess you meant none from the Motown-archives ?... otherwise there's "Blame It On The Boogie" and "Can You Feel It"

Those 2 are on Vision, but had not been on any video release previously, except as excerpts on other Mike videotapes. But there has not been any group only videos or DVD's released. There's some J5 footage on the Ed Sullivan Show DVDs, but that is still part of someone else's set.

Ah, i see Yeah, there are actually some scenes from "Can You Feel It" on the "Making Of Thriller," although on the vhs-edition cover-print it's not credited as a Jacksons video lol

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MickyDolenz said:

The Jacksons as a group is not really that popular. Probably why they've been ignored by the record company. Some of their songs have been put on Mike compilations and pretty much credited as solo Mike songs. Motown has over 250 unreleased J5 songs, plus solo material recorded by Mike, Jermaine, Marlon, Tito, & Jackie. There has never been an official video release of the Jacksons/J5. A few videos were put on that Michael Vision DVD though.

They're pretty popular. Probably a top 10 most popular R&B act all time.

With the material, there hasn't been a bunch on compilations like their Motown material. Up until the middle of last decade, there was only two Jacksons releases out, and they were long out of print. A Greatest Hits and a Best of Remix disc.

It's still only a handful of Jacksons compilation disc available, however in 2008 they did rereleases all of their albums (save 2300 Jackson Street which is only available in import form.)

where is bboy87 at? He could give us a list of all the Jackson outtakes.

We sure love us some Jackson’s we can’t get enough

babybugz said:

We sure love us some Jackson’s we can’t get enough

Everybody loves them but some hide that with "oh I hate them so I'm making a thread about them!" Same with some "former" Prince fans at the Prince board. Wink wink.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

They're pretty popular. Probably a top 10 most popular R&B act all time.

The majority of The Jacksons (not J5) album sales came post Thriller. Some albums were not particularly successful when originally released (the Gamble & Huff albums, 2300 Jackson Street, Live!). Not a good sign for the brothers when even Motown releases J5 stuff as "Michael Jackson".

LittleBLUECorvette said:

MickyDolenz said:

The Jacksons as a group is not really that popular. Probably why they've been ignored by the record company. Some of their songs have been put on Mike compilations and pretty much credited as solo Mike songs. Motown has over 250 unreleased J5 songs, plus solo material recorded by Mike, Jermaine, Marlon, Tito, & Jackie. There has never been an official video release of the Jacksons/J5. A few videos were put on that Michael Vision DVD though.

They're pretty popular. Probably a top 10 most popular R&B act all time.

With the material, there hasn't been a bunch on compilations like their Motown material. Up until the middle of last decade, there was only two Jacksons releases out, and they were long out of print. A Greatest Hits and a Best of Remix disc.

It's still only a handful of Jacksons compilation disc available, however in 2008 they did rereleases all of their albums (save 2300 Jackson Street which is only available in import form.)

I look back at the 1970s sales post-J5 and it seemed like the folks thought they were over (Jermaine included) until they put out Destiny. 1978-1980 was a big comeback period for the Jacksons as far as commercial success went. Michael's success eclipsed it by 1981 we all know by now.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

They're pretty popular. Probably a top 10 most popular R&B act all time.

With the material, there hasn't been a bunch on compilations like their Motown material. Up until the middle of last decade, there was only two Jacksons releases out, and they were long out of print. A Greatest Hits and a Best of Remix disc.

It's still only a handful of Jacksons compilation disc available, however in 2008 they did rereleases all of their albums (save 2300 Jackson Street which is only available in import form.)

I look back at the 1970s sales post-J5 and it seemed like the folks thought they were over (Jermaine included) until they put out Destiny. 1978-1980 was a big comeback period for the Jacksons as far as commercial success went. Michael's success eclipsed it by 1981 we all know by now.

I think them being a child act made people think that as well too rarely when child acts grow they still have success but they was able to evolve.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

I look back at the 1970s sales post-J5 and it seemed like the folks thought they were over (Jermaine included) until they put out Destiny. 1978-1980 was a big comeback period for the Jacksons as far as commercial success went. Michael's success eclipsed it by 1981 we all know by now.

I think them being a child act made people think that as well too rarely when child acts grow they still have success but they was able to evolve.

Right. Had they not evolved, they wouldn't have gotten into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

They're pretty popular. Probably a top 10 most popular R&B act all time.

The majority of The Jacksons (not J5) album sales came post Thriller. Some albums were not particularly successful when originally released (the Gamble & Huff albums, 2300 Jackson Street, Live!). Not a good sign for the brothers when even Motown releases J5 stuff as "Michael Jackson".

Goin Places was the only record not sucessful. It put them in a position to be let go had Destiny not been succesful. I think their debut went gold, Live was also gold. We know why 2300 Jackson Street wasn't a top record.

This MJ Remix Suite was a tribute album after his death.

Tittypants said:

The Jacksons recorded 5 albums with MJ on board. MJ was even lead singer on 4 of them, so there has to be some outtakes from those albums [From self-titled, Going Places, Destiny, Triumph, & Victory]. Where are they? Have the brothers even discussed anything about them yet? The family has already been capitalizing off of MJ's death anyway, & at least we'd know those tracks are legit. I would love to hear how those outtakes sound. Anybody else feel this way????

Here's a list of outtakes. No clue on when we'll get them. Smme of them might not have been recorded. MJ used to say that he writes the hook/chorus to a record first and if he doesn't like the way the hook/chorus is, he would scrap the song. Don't know if it's the same for the group as a whole...Yeah, here they are

Triumph

Slipped Away (Written by Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson)

That Girl (Written by The Jacksons)

Why Can't I Be (Written by Michael Jackson)

Victory

There Must Be More To Life Than This (Written by Freddie Mercury)

Doing Dirty (Written by Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson) [Possibly an early version of Dirty Diana]

Far Far Away (Written by Michael Jackson)

Power (Written by Jackie Jackson) [I believe this was released by another artist]

Bad Company (Written by Michael Jackson)

Pyramid Girl (Written by Michael Jackson) [This is actually the early version of Liberian Girl]

Nona (Written by Jackie Jackson)

State of Shock (Written by Michael Jackson and Randy Hansen) [Original version with Freddie Mercury was recorded for Thriller but wasn't finished in time]

Born to Love (Written by Michael Jackson)

Still in Love with You (Written by Michael Jackson)

Tender (Written by Michael Jackson)

Buffalo Bill (Written by Michael Jackson) [One of Michaels most prized songs. He talked very highly of it]

Where Do I Stand (Written by Marlon Jackson) [This song was released on one of Marlons albums later]

Victory (Written by Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury)

Those are the only ones I know of. I know there's roughly about 100-200 unreleased records from the Motown era.

SoulAlive said:

where is bboy87 at? He could give us a list of all the Jackson outtakes.

walks in and takes list out

The Jacksons were a pretty popular group. The 1976-1981 run was their most creative

The Jacksons- Pop #36, R&B #6

Goin' Places- Pop #63, R&B #1

Destiny- Pop #11, R&B #3

Triumph- Pop #10, R&B #1

They also weren't doing THAT bad in the sales or popularity either (1973-1975 was their worst period sales wise)

With that said, it's kind of hard to know WHO owns the unreleased music. They did tracks with Bobby Taylor before they signed with Epic back in late 1975 or early 1976 that should be looked into also.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Tittypants said:

The Jacksons recorded 5 albums with MJ on board. MJ was even lead singer on 4 of them, so there has to be some outtakes from those albums [From self-titled, Going Places, Destiny, Triumph, & Victory]. Where are they? Have the brothers even discussed anything about them yet? The family has already been capitalizing off of MJ's death anyway, & at least we'd know those tracks are legit. I would love to hear how those outtakes sound. Anybody else feel this way????

Here's a list of outtakes. No clue on when we'll get them. Smme of them might not have been recorded. MJ used to say that he writes the hook/chorus to a record first and if he doesn't like the way the hook/chorus is, he would scrap the song. Don't know if it's the same for the group as a whole...Yeah, here they are

Triumph

Slipped Away (Written by Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson)

That Girl (Written by The Jacksons)

Why Can't I Be (Written by Michael Jackson)

Victory

There Must Be More To Life Than This (Written by Freddie Mercury)

Doing Dirty (Written by Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson) [Possibly an early version of Dirty Diana]

Far Far Away (Written by Michael Jackson)

Power (Written by Jackie Jackson) [I believe this was released by another artist]

Bad Company (Written by Michael Jackson)

Pyramid Girl (Written by Michael Jackson) [This is actually the early version of Liberian Girl]

Nona (Written by Jackie Jackson)

State of Shock (Written by Michael Jackson and Randy Hansen) [Original version with Freddie Mercury was recorded for Thriller but wasn't finished in time]

Born to Love (Written by Michael Jackson)

Still in Love with You (Written by Michael Jackson)

Tender (Written by Michael Jackson)

Buffalo Bill (Written by Michael Jackson) [One of Michaels most prized songs. He talked very highly of it]

Where Do I Stand (Written by Marlon Jackson) [This song was released on one of Marlons albums later]

Victory (Written by Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury)

Those are the only ones I know of. I know there's roughly about 100-200 unreleased records from the Motown era.

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Well I'll be damned, you compiled a list before I did!

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I've raised you well.......

[Edited 7/13/11 1:43am]

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Here's a list of outtakes. No clue on when we'll get them. Smme of them might not have been recorded. MJ used to say that he writes the hook/chorus to a record first and if he doesn't like the way the hook/chorus is, he would scrap the song. Don't know if it's the same for the group as a whole...Yeah, here they are

Triumph

Slipped Away (Written by Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson)

That Girl (Written by The Jacksons)

Why Can't I Be (Written by Michael Jackson)

Victory

There Must Be More To Life Than This (Written by Freddie Mercury)

Doing Dirty (Written by Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson) [Possibly an early version of Dirty Diana]

Far Far Away (Written by Michael Jackson)

Power (Written by Jackie Jackson) [I believe this was released by another artist]

Bad Company (Written by Michael Jackson)

Pyramid Girl (Written by Michael Jackson) [This is actually the early version of Liberian Girl]

Nona (Written by Jackie Jackson)

State of Shock (Written by Michael Jackson and Randy Hansen) [Original version with Freddie Mercury was recorded for Thriller but wasn't finished in time]

Born to Love (Written by Michael Jackson)

Still in Love with You (Written by Michael Jackson)

Tender (Written by Michael Jackson)

Buffalo Bill (Written by Michael Jackson) [One of Michaels most prized songs. He talked very highly of it]

Where Do I Stand (Written by Marlon Jackson) [This song was released on one of Marlons albums later]

Victory (Written by Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury)

Those are the only ones I know of. I know there's roughly about 100-200 unreleased records from the Motown era.

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Well I'll be damned, you compiled a list before I did!

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I've raised you well.......

[Edited 7/13/11 1:43am]

You have taught me well, Master! *bows*

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Not a complete list but here's one

The Jacksons
Holiday Inn (written by Michael in 1976)


Goin' Places
Ode To Sorrow (written by Michael in 1977, possibly for Goin' Places)


Destiny
That Girl
Slipped Away


Triumph
That Girl (re-recorded for Triumph)
Slipped Away (Alternate Version)
Why Can't I Be (written by Michael possibly for Triumph, has similar chord progression as The Girl Is Mine)
You Told Me Your Lovin' (originally written by Michael, re-written by Randy in 1979)
Got To Find A Way Somehow (written by Michael for either Off The Wall or Triumph)
Under Your Skin (written by Michael in 1979 for either Off The Wall or Triumph)
You Not Me (written by Michael in 1979 for either Off The Wall or Triumph, would later become This Had To Be for The Brothers Johnson)

Victory
Victory (written by Michael and Freddie Mercury)
There Must Be More To Life Than This
Doing Dirty (writen by Michael and Marlon)
Just Feel It (written by Michael)
Power (written by Jackie)
Bad Company (written by Tito Jackson)
Nona (written by Jackie)
Still In Love With You (I think this was written by Randy)
Tender (written by Jackie )
Buffalo Bill
Where Do I Stand (written by Marlon)
Attitude

2300 Jackson Street
Color Of Love (written by Randy, Michael not involved)




JACKSON 5IVE (by no means is this complete, just giving some examples)
7 Rooms Of Gloom (cover of the Four Tops song)
A Place In The Sun (cover of the Stevie Wonder song)
A Pretty Face Is/Pretty Faces (from the shelved Stevie Wonder produced album)
After The Storm
Ain't Too Proud To Beg
Ave Maria
Baby I Need Your Lovin
Baby It's Love (rumored duet with Diana Ross)
For The Rest Of My Life (rumored duet with Diana Ross)
Back In My Arms (cover of Supremes song)
Be My Girl
Blowin' In The Wind (cover of Bob Dylan song)
Can I Get A Witness (cover of Marvin Gaye's song)
Christmas Everyday
Cloud Nine (cover of Temptaions song)
Come And Get It
Daydreamer (written by The Jackson 5, used in the 1972 TV special, The Jackson 5 Show)
Do You Love Me (cover of Contours song)
God Rest Ye Merry Christmas
Heaven Help Us All (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
I'm Your Sunny Boy (cover of Supremes song)
Fingertips (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
For Once In My Life (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
How Sweet It Is To Be Loved By You (cover of Marvin Gaye song)
I Can't Help Myself(Sugar Pie Honey Bunch) (cover of Four Tops song)
I Got A Feeling (cover of Four Tops song)
If You Really Love Me (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
If I Can't (Nobody Can)
Love Go Away
No News Is Good News
Ooh Baby Baby (cover of Miracles song)
Where Did Our Love Go (cover of Supremes song)

For the 1976-1977 sessions, not much is really known. The brothers have unreleased tracks from those and the Destiny and Triumph sessions and Howard Mann has possessions of the audio tracks that were used on The Jacksons TV show as well as songs demos the brothers submitted to other artists when Joe was trying to launch Jackson Records in the mid 80s

[Edited 7/13/11 2:21am]

^ Yeah, I really want to hear "That Girl".

You have taught me well, Master! *bows*

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Here's a list of outtakes. No clue on when we'll get them. Smme of them might not have been recorded. MJ used to say that he writes the hook/chorus to a record first and if he doesn't like the way the hook/chorus is, he would scrap the song. Don't know if it's the same for the group as a whole...Yeah, here they are

Triumph

Slipped Away (Written by Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson)

That Girl (Written by The Jacksons)

Why Can't I Be (Written by Michael Jackson)

Victory

There Must Be More To Life Than This (Written by Freddie Mercury)

Doing Dirty (Written by Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson) [Possibly an early version of Dirty Diana]

Far Far Away (Written by Michael Jackson)

Power (Written by Jackie Jackson) [I believe this was released by another artist]

Bad Company (Written by Michael Jackson)

Pyramid Girl (Written by Michael Jackson) [This is actually the early version of Liberian Girl]

Nona (Written by Jackie Jackson)

State of Shock (Written by Michael Jackson and Randy Hansen) [Original version with Freddie Mercury was recorded for Thriller but wasn't finished in time]

Born to Love (Written by Michael Jackson)

Still in Love with You (Written by Michael Jackson)

Tender (Written by Michael Jackson)

Buffalo Bill (Written by Michael Jackson) [One of Michaels most prized songs. He talked very highly of it]

Where Do I Stand (Written by Marlon Jackson) [This song was released on one of Marlons albums later]

Victory (Written by Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury)

Those are the only ones I know of. I know there's roughly about 100-200 unreleased records from the Motown era.

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Well I'll be damned, you compiled a list before I did!

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I've raised you well.......

[Edited 7/13/11 1:43am]

That made my day

bboy87 said:

Goin' Places- Pop #63, R&B #1

This must be overseas, because according to Billboard (US), this album never charted. I've never heard any of the songs from it on the radio either.

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MickyDolenz said:

bboy87 said:

Goin' Places- Pop #63, R&B #1

This must be overseas, because according to Billboard (US), this album never charted. I've never heard any of the songs from it on the radio either.

[Edited 7/13/11 8:29am]

Uh, yes it charted in the U.S. It didn't chart overseas from what I heard.

The Goin' Places album peaked at No. 45 in the UK.

In regards to Goin' Places, listen to "Used To Be My Girl" by the O'Jays. This was produced by Gamble and Huff after Goin' Places came out. Listen to the vocals and arrangement and tell me that wouldn't have been a Jacksons song if they did one more album with that team.

Derek1984 said:

In regards to Goin' Places, listen to "Used To Be My Girl" by the O'Jays. This was produced by Gamble and Huff after Goin' Places came out. Listen to the vocals and arrangement and tell me that wouldn't have been a Jacksons song if they did one more album with that team.

It almost did go to the Jacksons but they left and they gave it to the O'Jays. IMHO they did the right thing. It fits the O'Jays because technically that's what some of the Jacksons PIR records sounded like: O'Jays records or Harold Melvin/Teddy Pendergrass records.