Gave the song a shot, but I'll admit I was somewhat underwhelmed by the song. I don't think she was oversinging in this song (broke out her standard vocal runs), but I'm having a hard time relating to the folks who hear all of this "soul" in her voice 'cause I must've missed something (didn't hear it or feel it).
However, I will give her credit for branching out and trying something different, even if I didn't really like it.
This is probably the best and my most favorite song of hers.
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
This is probably the best and my most favorite song of hers.
Hard to believe but there was actually a time when she did songs that were halfway decent Nowadays,she's mostly into loud,noisy "anthems" that don't go anywhere.
This is probably the best and my most favorite song of hers.
Hard to believe but there was actually a time when she did songs that were halfway decent Nowadays,she's mostly into loud,noisy "anthems" that don't go anywhere.
When? The group she was in before she went solo was horrible too.
Hard to believe but there was actually a time when she did songs that were halfway decent Nowadays,she's mostly into loud,noisy "anthems" that don't go anywhere.
When? The group she was in before she went solo was horrible too.
I agree (lol).I was referring to "Me,Myself and I" which is decent "Crazy In Love" was fun.Somewhere along the way,she forgot what a 'good' song sounds like.
This is probably the best and my most favorite song of hers.
this is a nice cut from Beyonce.
Like soooo many of her contemporaries, Beyonce appears to believe marketing is far more important than quality / substance. Ms. Knowles singing is pretentiously dramatic on '1+1'... it's false. (IMO)
She fails to connect on this emotionless and bland track, much like everything she comes near now.
I think that's the problem, too. I liked her first album (and the videos that accompanied the songs) much more than the stuff she's recently put out because the excitement and emotion was there. For me, Crazy in Love > "Single Ladies" AND "Girls"...her "anthems" annoy me . Even Independent Women had me giving DC the side-eye. You went from "Pay My Bills" to "Independent Women" that quickly? Why'd you even bother messin' with a dude (read: leech, moocher) like that in the first place?
No, I mean 'weave' like lacefronts, tracks, the whole shebang. That girl's been known to drop thousands of dollars on her shit. The weave makers would be quite disappointed if she decided to cut her hair.
Better. I saw this coming as soon as RTW (Girls) didn't take off like a rocket on the charts or iTunes. What's sad is she and her camp probably misinterprets the poor reception to "Girls" like she's in a box and can't branch out and experiment with new sounds. When the truth of the matter is, Girls shouldn't have never been made, much less released as a first single. She's been there and done that already, plus the song was VERY ill-conceived.
Is that some term that came from American Idol or something and wormed its way into pop culture? (honestly, I really don't know the origin of the term. Is that some Simon shit?) I'm hearing that a lot these days, especially with regards to gospel and R&B singers.
Again, I ask: What is the measuring stick, then? Does that mean that Rihanna, Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and Britney Spears are notorious "under singers"? Seriously, what's the deal with this?
And this is definitely one of her better songs. I wonder who wrote it?
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That stuff drives me crazy too. I don't know if it's an American Idol thing, but more and more in recent years, people who I consider SERIOUS singers (mostly R&B and Gospel) have been hit with the oversinging tag (or worse, the loud singing tag), while technically limited singers get put on a pedestal. It could be an American Idol thing and is probably the reason why the last few winners have been weak...while all the soulful, big voiced diva types barely make it past the auditions. It's seeming like a general cultural shift away from appreciating massive talent, to just being satisfied with and celebrating lazy skill and folks who are just good enough to get by.
I'm not speaking about Beyonce or the posters in this thread specifically, but I don't know at what point we went from applauding people who "sang", to standing in the corner frowning at them with our arms folded.
Is that some term that came from American Idol or something and wormed its way into pop culture? (honestly, I really don't know the origin of the term. Is that some Simon shit?) I'm hearing that a lot these days, especially with regards to gospel and R&B singers.
Again, I ask: What is the measuring stick, then? Does that mean that Rihanna, Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and Britney Spears are notorious "under singers"? Seriously, what's the deal with this?
And this is definitely one of her better songs. I wonder who wrote it?
[Edited 5/25/11 23:22pm]
That stuff drives me crazy too. I don't know if it's an American Idol thing, but more and more in recent years, people who I consider SERIOUS singers (mostly R&B and Gospel) have been hit with the oversinging tag (or worse, the loud singing tag), while technically limited singers get put on a pedestal. It could be an American Idol thing and is probably the reason why the last few winners have been weak...while all the soulful, big voiced diva types barely make it past the auditions. It's seeming like a general cultural shift away from appreciating massive talent, to just being satisfied with and celebrating lazy skill and folks who are just good enough to get by.
I'm not speaking about Beyonce or the posters in this thread specifically, but I don't know at what point we went from applauding people who "sang", to standing in the corner frowning at them with our arms folded.
i love loud singers, like chaka khan, melisa morgan, angela winbush, patti labelle, cheryl lynn.
i don't like mediocre singers who yell like beyonce....
its either you are really good at singing "loud, soulful, big voiced" or you have to have a pleasant tone in your voice like janet or sade, for me to like your voice
beyonce has neither, her voice is irritating, and its to abrasive and harsh. Its not pleasant.
Is that some term that came from American Idol or something and wormed its way into pop culture? (honestly, I really don't know the origin of the term. Is that some Simon shit?) I'm hearing that a lot these days, especially with regards to gospel and R&B singers.
Again, I ask: What is the measuring stick, then? Does that mean that Rihanna, Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and Britney Spears are notorious "under singers"? Seriously, what's the deal with this?
And this is definitely one of her better songs. I wonder who wrote it?
[Edited 5/25/11 23:22pm]
That stuff drives me crazy too. I don't know if it's an American Idol thing, but more and more in recent years, people who I consider SERIOUS singers (mostly R&B and Gospel) have been hit with the oversinging tag (or worse, the loud singing tag), while technically limited singers get put on a pedestal. It could be an American Idol thing and is probably the reason why the last few winners have been weak...while all the soulful, big voiced diva types barely make it past the auditions. It's seeming like a general cultural shift away from appreciating massive talent, to just being satisfied with and celebrating lazy skill and folks who are just good enough to get by.
I'm not speaking about Beyonce or the posters in this thread specifically, but I don't know at what point we went from applauding people who "sang", to standing in the corner frowning at them with our arms folded.
I don't get it either. Aside from Madonna, all my favorite singers can SANG. That's what I look for in a singer. I think one of the issues is that most people can't sing for shit and they want to be able to sing along to songs that they like. It's hard to sing along with someone like Mariah Carey or Ledisi or Beyonce so that kind of singing is deemed oversinging. The only reason I can find for Kesha being so popular is that her stuff is so easy to sing along to.
Look at Adam Lambert. He had a HUGE voice on Idol and when his album came out, they watered his vocals way down. He's soulful and you don't hear that on his crap CD. Even Gaga is much more vocally talented that one can surmise from listening to her songs. It's soo stupid.
Do any of you watct The Voice? Blake Shelton was bitching at one of the male contestants because he did some runs and he thought it took away from the song. The dude barely did 1 vocal run!
People don't even like belting anymore either. They call it screaming. You can't scream with vibrato for God's sake. *rolls eyes*
"Keep in mind that I'm an artist...and I'm sensitive about my shit."--E. Badu
That stuff drives me crazy too. I don't know if it's an American Idol thing, but more and more in recent years, people who I consider SERIOUS singers (mostly R&B and Gospel) have been hit with the oversinging tag (or worse, the loud singing tag), while technically limited singers get put on a pedestal. It could be an American Idol thing and is probably the reason why the last few winners have been weak...while all the soulful, big voiced diva types barely make it past the auditions. It's seeming like a general cultural shift away from appreciating massive talent, to just being satisfied with and celebrating lazy skill and folks who are just good enough to get by.
I'm not speaking about Beyonce or the posters in this thread specifically, but I don't know at what point we went from applauding people who "sang", to standing in the corner frowning at them with our arms folded.
I don't get it either. Aside from Madonna, all my favorite singers can SANG. That's what I look for in a singer. I think one of the issues is that most people can't sing for shit and they want to be able to sing along to songs that they like. It's hard to sing along with someone like Mariah Carey or Ledisi or Beyonce so that kind of singing is deemed oversinging. The only reason I can find for Kesha being so popular is that her stuff is so easy to sing along to.
Look at Adam Lambert. He had a HUGE voice on Idol and when his album came out, they watered his vocals way down. He's soulful and you don't hear that on his crap CD. Even Gaga is much more vocally talented that one can surmise from listening to her songs. It's soo stupid.
Do any of you watct The Voice? Blake Shelton was bitching at one of the male contestants because he did some runs and he thought it took away from the song. The dude barely did 1 vocal run!
People don't even like belting anymore either. They call it screaming. You can't scream with vibrato for God's sake. *rolls eyes*
That stuff drives me crazy too. I don't know if it's an American Idol thing, but more and more in recent years, people who I consider SERIOUS singers (mostly R&B and Gospel) have been hit with the oversinging tag (or worse, the loud singing tag), while technically limited singers get put on a pedestal. It could be an American Idol thing and is probably the reason why the last few winners have been weak...while all the soulful, big voiced diva types barely make it past the auditions. It's seeming like a general cultural shift away from appreciating massive talent, to just being satisfied with and celebrating lazy skill and folks who are just good enough to get by.
I'm not speaking about Beyonce or the posters in this thread specifically, but I don't know at what point we went from applauding people who "sang", to standing in the corner frowning at them with our arms folded.
i love loud singers, like chaka khan, melisa morgan, angela winbush, patti labelle, cheryl lynn.
i don't like mediocre singers who yell like beyonce....
its either you are really good at singing "loud, soulful, big voiced" or you have to have a pleasant tone in your voice like janet or sade, for me to like your voice
beyonce has neither, her voice is irritating, and its to abrasive and harsh. Its not pleasant.
I LOVE all these women, but I love Beyonce too.
The second bolded part, I completely agree with you.
"Keep in mind that I'm an artist...and I'm sensitive about my shit."--E. Badu
Is that some term that came from American Idol or something and wormed its way into pop culture? (honestly, I really don't know the origin of the term. Is that some Simon shit?) I'm hearing that a lot these days, especially with regards to gospel and R&B singers.
Again, I ask: What is the measuring stick, then? Does that mean that Rihanna, Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and Britney Spears are notorious "under singers"? Seriously, what's the deal with this?
And this is definitely one of her better songs. I wonder who wrote it?
[Edited 5/25/11 23:22pm]
That stuff drives me crazy too. I don't know if it's an American Idol thing, but more and more in recent years, people who I consider SERIOUS singers (mostly R&B and Gospel) have been hit with the oversinging tag (or worse, the loud singing tag), while technically limited singers get put on a pedestal. It could be an American Idol thing and is probably the reason why the last few winners have been weak...while all the soulful, big voiced diva types barely make it past the auditions. It's seeming like a general cultural shift away from appreciating massive talent, to just being satisfied with and celebrating lazy skill and folks who are just good enough to get by.
I'm not speaking about Beyonce or the posters in this thread specifically, but I don't know at what point we went from applauding people who "sang", to standing in the corner frowning at them with our arms folded.
Indeed. Illogical analysis prevails now. If Aretha or Whitney were young and prevalent with music today, they would be absurdly labeled as "oversingers" "forcing" their voices too. Adept power vocaltists are now dispensable "yellers," while the ones who do just yell/scream noise, talk-sing, or are inaudible are described as "passionate singers," or "extremely skillful." Totally backwards.
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee "Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
Is that some term that came from American Idol or something and wormed its way into pop culture? (honestly, I really don't know the origin of the term. Is that some Simon shit?) I'm hearing that a lot these days, especially with regards to gospel and R&B singers.
Again, I ask: What is the measuring stick, then? Does that mean that Rihanna, Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and Britney Spears are notorious "under singers"? Seriously, what's the deal with this?
And this is definitely one of her better songs. I wonder who wrote it?
[Edited 5/25/11 23:22pm]
That stuff drives me crazy too. I don't know if it's an American Idol thing, but more and more in recent years, people who I consider SERIOUS singers (mostly R&B and Gospel) have been hit with the oversinging tag (or worse, the loud singing tag), while technically limited singers get put on a pedestal. It could be an American Idol thing and is probably the reason why the last few winners have been weak...while all the soulful, big voiced diva types barely make it past the auditions. It's seeming like a general cultural shift away from appreciating massive talent, to just being satisfied with and celebrating lazy skill and folks who are just good enough to get by.
I'm not speaking about Beyonce or the posters in this thread specifically, but I don't know at what point we went from applauding people who "sang", to standing in the corner frowning at them with our arms folded.
Instead of taking the time to develope their own voices and sound may singers today emulate their idols or musical icons and so many don't have the pipes or talent to pull it off. Chaka Khan is an example, who's signature sound includes - what very few singers can do - "shout singing". Many of these singers are trying emote an emotion from a song that sounds
contrived, fake, false, or whatever you want to call it. One should sing within their range... what the voice has to give. What is oversinging"? Men how've mistaken singing in a whiny high pitch voice as falsetto. Singers who haven't taken the time to develope their voice vibrato and at that, genetics determines the range of that.
Ms. Knowles sounds like a woman who's heartbroken, hurt, and 'played' when she sings, "Me, Myself, & I". "1+1" her singing sounds phony. (IMO)
I love this dumb bitch though! Not only did she mispronounce algebra, but 1+1 is arithmetic, not algebra.
It could just be her accent though. This guy at work says aks all the time instead of ask. It's only a 3 letter word but he apparently doesn't get it.
I love the vocals but Beyonce always impresses me with her vocals. Sexy Virgo. I like anything she does...totally biased.
I think they recorded it that way on purpose, because Bey's diction is usually not like that when she sings. Her accent is there, but she always has fine diction when she sings. Not to mention, this is the Dream and Tricky's work so.....
That stuff drives me crazy too. I don't know if it's an American Idol thing, but more and more in recent years, people who I consider SERIOUS singers (mostly R&B and Gospel) have been hit with the oversinging tag (or worse, the loud singing tag), while technically limited singers get put on a pedestal. It could be an American Idol thing and is probably the reason why the last few winners have been weak...while all the soulful, big voiced diva types barely make it past the auditions. It's seeming like a general cultural shift away from appreciating massive talent, to just being satisfied with and celebrating lazy skill and folks who are just good enough to get by.
I'm not speaking about Beyonce or the posters in this thread specifically, but I don't know at what point we went from applauding people who "sang", to standing in the corner frowning at them with our arms folded.
Indeed. Illogical analysis prevails now. If Aretha or Whitney were young and prevalent with music today, they would be absurdly labeled as "oversingers" "forcing" their voices too. Adept power vocaltists are now dispensable "yellers," while the ones who do just yell/scream noise, talk-sing, or are inaudible are described as "passionate singers," or "extremely skillful." Totally backwards.
whitney does not over sing, she has a natural powerful voice and it doesn't sound like she is straning... well im speaking about her when her voice was in its best shape
no one would label them as over singing. But truthully beyonce is, my friend was taking a nap, and at the end of beyonce's performance when she was singing "make love to me" i put the head phones in my friends ear, and they woke out of their sleep laughing at the way she was singing.
im a person who loves, SOULFUL voices, those are my favorite vocalist. I just don't like forced and contrived vocalist like beyonce and christina aguilera.
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Nowadays,she's mostly into loud,noisy "anthems" that don't go anywhere.
this is a nice cut from Beyonce.
I like anything she does...totally biased.
Illogical analysis prevails now. If Aretha or Whitney were young and prevalent with music today, they would be absurdly labeled as "oversingers" "forcing" their voices too. Adept power vocaltists are now dispensable "yellers," while the ones who do just yell/scream noise, talk-sing, or are inaudible are described as "passionate singers," or "extremely skillful." Totally backwards. 
