MickyDolenz said:

AlexdeParis said:

Don't tell me you're one of those weirdos who doesn't know NC and VA are in the South.

It's not border south.

Border South???

It's still the South. I'm tired of NC and VA getting this disrespect. We ALL South, man!

MickyDolenz said:

AlexdeParis said:

Don't tell me you're one of those weirdos who doesn't know NC and VA are in the South.

It's not border south. If you can drive a few miles from NC and VA and be in Mexico or the Gulf Of Mexico, then you can talk.

Who knew California and Arizona were part of the South?

The phrase you're looking for is the Deep South.

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AlexdeParis said:

MickyDolenz said:

It's not border south. If you can drive a few miles from NC and VA and be in Mexico or the Gulf Of Mexico, then you can talk.

Who knew California and Arizona were part of the South?

TonyVanDam said:

I was always a fan of the original version long before I became a fan of the Teddy Riley remix.

The first version of the song that I heard was the Teddy remix, so I went to the wrecka sto and bought the cassette single. This was the original version, which I hated. I eventually found the Teddy version and wore it out.

I liked this song....though, I used to confuse her with Jennifer Batten from Michael Jackson's band.

AlexdeParis said:

Timmy84 said:

I live in North Carolina (born and raised) and believe me the original was played on radio here. In fact I hardly heard the NJS mix of it and even BET played the ORIGINAL video.

I don't believe there was a video for the remix. In Virginia both versions were played: the original on pop radio and the remix on the R&B station. With Teddy living here, it makes perfect sense they'd play his version.

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In New Orleans, they played both version on r&b/soul radio. but Teddy's remix was played more often thereafter.

Jane was one of the most underrated artists to come out. Her second CD was a masterpiece and her third was great, too.

Great track from her second album

Another awesome track from that album was "I Do Not Feel As You Do"

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Not sure how people can like the TR version over the original. NJS is one genre that hasn't aged well (as much as I ate it up back in the day). Jane's original is far superior. Teddy's mix completely takes the life out of the song and makes it a generic new jack song (I picture a couple of goofy dancers behind her doing the Roger Rabbit/Cabbage Patch/etc.). Jane's instrumentation on the original shouldn't have been messed with at all (Pettibone's mix got it right by just extending the cut). Teddy almost completely stripped away Jane's instrumentation, making it a Teddy Riley song with Jane's vocals. I understand those mixes existing for club usage, but I don't understand completely replacing the original on the radio (thus, creating this argument). If Jane wanted Teddy to produce her track (or in Teddy's case play everything and have her sing over it), then she would have done so. Her production fit the song/album. Teddy's mix just made it a new jack novelty.

pzlyprk said:

Not sure how people can like the TR version over the original. NJS is one genre that hasn't aged well (as much as I ate it up back in the day). Jane's original is far superior. Teddy's mix completely takes the life out of the song and makes it a generic new jack song (I picture a couple of goofy dancers behind her doing the Roger Rabbit/Cabbage Patch/etc.). Jane's instrumentation on the original shouldn't have been messed with at all (Pettibone's mix got it right by just extending the cut). Teddy almost completely stripped away Jane's instrumentation, making it a Teddy Riley song with Jane's vocals. I understand those mixes existing for club usage, but I don't understand completely replacing the original on the radio (thus, creating this argument). If Jane wanted Teddy to produce her track (or in Teddy's case play everything and have her sing over it), then she would have done so. Her production fit the song/album. Teddy's mix just made it a new jack novelty.

pzlyprk said:

Not sure how people can like the TR version over the original. NJS is one genre that hasn't aged well (as much as I ate it up back in the day). Jane's original is far superior. Teddy's mix completely takes the life out of the song and makes it a generic new jack song (I picture a couple of goofy dancers behind her doing the Roger Rabbit/Cabbage Patch/etc.). Jane's instrumentation on the original shouldn't have been messed with at all (Pettibone's mix got it right by just extending the cut). Teddy almost completely stripped away Jane's instrumentation, making it a Teddy Riley song with Jane's vocals. I understand those mixes existing for club usage, but I don't understand completely replacing the original on the radio (thus, creating this argument). If Jane wanted Teddy to produce her track (or in Teddy's case play everything and have her sing over it), then she would have done so. Her production fit the song/album. Teddy's mix just made it a new jack novelty.

I would have to disagree. Teddy Riley pioneered a new genre of music. Prince created the MPLS Sound and Teddy created New Jack Swing. I remember when I first heard Guy's "Groove Me" it sounded foreign to me because there was nothing like it on the radio. That song was a much-needed shot in the arm for R&B/Pop music,. Nobody else was swinging the time signature in pop music back then. You only heard that in old school Jazz records. After awhile, he was sought after to produce and remix the music of Boy George, MJ, and jane Child, among others. I wouldn't be surprised if Teddy's version sold more than the original because it "reverse crossed over"..LOL

I would've never heard of her if the R&B/Urban radio stations hadn't played her. If Teddy's version of I Don't Wanna Fall sounds like Teddy with Jane's vocals, that's what they wanted or else they would not have asked him to remix the song..LOL Record companies were smart back then. They knew what was hot and what would make them the most $$$$.

NJS to me still sounds good. In fact, Teddy's music is better than 90% of what's on the radio these days, in my opinion. I've always said that it makes no difference if it was recorded yesterday or fifty years ago, a good song is a good song.

I found the original version to be boring and typical of the pop/rock music of that time. Teddy's version was far from typical. I guess it's all relative.

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AlexdeParis said:

MickyDolenz said:

It's not border south. If you can drive a few miles from NC and VA and be in Mexico or the Gulf Of Mexico, then you can talk.

Who knew California and Arizona were part of the South?

The phrase you're looking for is the Deep South.

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I didn't say "The South" as in Confederate states, I said south. There's a difference. South is a direction going down. Like Mexico is south of Texas. The United States is south of Canada. Uruguay is south of Brazil. I guess stuff doesn't translate well typing it out on the internet.

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omg!! This is one of my favoritest songs EVAARRR!!! I LOVE it! It sounds like something that could be released now and blow everything out of the water.

ScarletScandal said:

omg!! This is one of my favoritest songs EVAARRR!!! I LOVE it! It sounds like something that could be released now and blow everything out of the water.

It's that timeless.

pzlyprk said:

I understand those mixes existing for club usage, but I don't understand completely replacing the original on the radio

Many songs on the radio back then were remixes. Like these:

Album versions (I couldn't find the actual album version of Freedom, but it sounds the same as this instrumental. Just the lead vocal is removed.)

Remixes

pzlyprk said:

Not sure how people can like the TR version over the original. NJS is one genre that hasn't aged well (as much as I ate it up back in the day). Jane's original is far superior. Teddy's mix completely takes the life out of the song and makes it a generic new jack song (I picture a couple of goofy dancers behind her doing the Roger Rabbit/Cabbage Patch/etc.). Jane's instrumentation on the original shouldn't have been messed with at all (Pettibone's mix got it right by just extending the cut). Teddy almost completely stripped away Jane's instrumentation, making it a Teddy Riley song with Jane's vocals. I understand those mixes existing for club usage, but I don't understand completely replacing the original on the radio (thus, creating this argument). If Jane wanted Teddy to produce her track (or in Teddy's case play everything and have her sing over it), then she would have done so. Her production fit the song/album. Teddy's mix just made it a new jack novelty.

Yeah it's real dated.

BlaqueKnight said:

Jane was one of the most underrated artists to come out. Her second CD was a masterpiece and her third was great, too.

Damn right!

The synth basslines of both of THESE^ tracks are badass.

Timmy84 said:

Had to test the limits so I posted the original version with a high pitch (not too high that it distracts from the song) lol

In the four years I've been on YouTube I don't recall there was a video with the original audio. Yeah the video's still up but not this song so enjoy for now.

(You know how stingy YouTube can be)

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This is the only version i've ever known, bought it on 7" vinyl back in the day.

Detroit said:

pzlyprk said:

Not sure how people can like the TR version over the original. NJS is one genre that hasn't aged well (as much as I ate it up back in the day). Jane's original is far superior. Teddy's mix completely takes the life out of the song and makes it a generic new jack song (I picture a couple of goofy dancers behind her doing the Roger Rabbit/Cabbage Patch/etc.). Jane's instrumentation on the original shouldn't have been messed with at all (Pettibone's mix got it right by just extending the cut). Teddy almost completely stripped away Jane's instrumentation, making it a Teddy Riley song with Jane's vocals. I understand those mixes existing for club usage, but I don't understand completely replacing the original on the radio (thus, creating this argument). If Jane wanted Teddy to produce her track (or in Teddy's case play everything and have her sing over it), then she would have done so. Her production fit the song/album. Teddy's mix just made it a new jack novelty.

I would have to disagree. Teddy Riley pioneered a new genre of music. Prince created the MPLS Sound and Teddy created New Jack Swing. I remember when I first heard Guy's "Groove Me" it sounded foreign to me because there was nothing like it on the radio. That song was a much-needed shot in the arm for R&B/Pop music,. Nobody else was swinging the time signature in pop music back then. You only heard that in old school Jazz records. After awhile, he was sought after to produce and remix the music of Boy George, MJ, and jane Child, among others. I wouldn't be surprised if Teddy's version sold more than the original because it "reverse crossed over"..LOL

I would've never heard of her if the R&B/Urban radio stations hadn't played her. If Teddy's version of I Don't Wanna Fall sounds like Teddy with Jane's vocals, that's what they wanted or else they would not have asked him to remix the song..LOL Record companies were smart back then. They knew what was hot and what would make them the most $$$$.

NJS to me still sounds good. In fact, Teddy's music is better than 90% of what's on the radio these days, in my opinion. I've always said that it makes no difference if it was recorded yesterday or fifty years ago, a good song is a good song.

I found the original version to be boring and typical of the pop/rock music of that time. Teddy's version was far from typical. I guess it's all relative.

I like the original quite a bit. Other that that, I agree wholeheartedly.

NJS still sounds great to me.

AlexdeParis said:

I don't believe there was a video for the remix.

It appears there is.

Always dug this song (it came out when I was really young and her nose ring scared me ). Where I live they didn't play the original version on the radio. Thanks for posting this, Timmy

mimi2 said:

Always dug this song (it came out when I was really young and her nose ring scared me ). Where I live they didn't play the original version on the radio. Thanks for posting this, Timmy

No prob.

Never mind. The original rocks (although not a fan of the higher vocal...sorry).

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VinnyM27 said:

Never mind. The original rocks (although not a fan of the higher vocal...sorry).

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Say that about YouTube. Had it not been for that "policy", you wouldn't get the higher pitch.

MickyDolenz said:

AlexdeParis said:

I don't believe there was a video for the remix.

It appears there is.

Cool. Thanks!

What is Jane up 2 these days?

Graycap23 said:

What is Jane up 2 these days?

Last I heard she's still performing and recording (independently of course). I think she was on "Lopez Tonight" either recently or last year performing "I Don't Wanna Fall in Love" on the piano nonetheless.

And she still got her braids.

Timmy84 said:

Had to test the limits so I posted the original version with a high pitch (not too high that it distracts from the song) lol

In the four years I've been on YouTube I don't recall there was a video with the original audio. Yeah the video's still up but not this song so enjoy for now.

(You know how stingy YouTube can be)

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I always did love this song. Epic.

I agree that the Teddy Riley remix is very cold and awkward. It's all about the track, and Jane's vocals sound slowed down, detached, and almost medicated on it...as opposed to the spirted and lively way she comes across on the original version. I remember 1990, when "Don't Wanna Fall In Love" was out, and even then I greatly preferred the original to the New Jack Swing remix -- which IMO worked better at parties than it did on the radio.

Don't get me wrong, the track itself is decent...but it doesn't at much compliment the actual *song* being sung over it.