WaterInYourBath said:

I agree and disagree:

1) The whole "sticky" thing should indeed end, however 2) I don't think we should post random MJ threads all over this forum. What should happen is Michael should have his own sub-forum here now, to make variant discussions about him easier to sort.

The man owns this site. Might as well face it.

Oh the Prince fans are gonna kill us...

typo edit

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SherryJackson said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I agree and disagree:

1) The whole "sticky" thing should indeed end, however 2) I don't think we should post random MJ threads all over this forum. What should happen is Michael should have his own sub-forum here now, to make variant discussions about him easier to sort.

The man owns this site. Might as well face it.

Oh the Prince fans are gonna kill us...

typo edit

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I don't know about "owning" a site. Ain't like he's invading ALL over the ORG. Not even the non-music thread. I honestly think people still org the mods about the threads though. There's a good reason Gray's thread is not locked. They WANT to see shit stir up. I'm not about to give in to that.

WaterInYourBath said:

I agree and disagree:

1) The whole "sticky" thing should indeed end, however 2) I don't think we should post random MJ threads all over this forum. What should happen is Michael should have his own sub-forum here now, to make variant discussions about him easier to sort.

The man owns this site. Might as well face it.

I was thinking that when I read that post. Could you imagine if this site had a MJ sub-forum? LOL

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Timmy84 said:

SherryJackson said:

Oh the Prince fans are gonna kill us...

typo edit

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I don't know about "owning" a site. Ain't like he's invading ALL over the ORG. Not even the non-music thread. I honestly think people still org the mods about the threads though. There's a good reason Gray's thread is not locked. They WANT to see shit stir up. I'm not about to give in to that.

I've noticed negative-leaning MJ threads hang around too. Funny that.

Marrk said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't know about "owning" a site. Ain't like he's invading ALL over the ORG. Not even the non-music thread. I honestly think people still org the mods about the threads though. There's a good reason Gray's thread is not locked. They WANT to see shit stir up. I'm not about to give in to that.

I've noticed negative-leaning MJ threads hang around too. Funny that.

Yep.

I'm personally happy with the sticky. I don't think it makes it hard to search. If anything it's easier than trawling through countless different threads all about a specific thing.

Pro tip - you can preface any Google search with site:prince.org [search term here] and it'll come up with all results for that term here. So you don't have to go through pages and pages of old threads.

^ I just copy the URL and go to whatever page the thread is currently on.

The thread just becomes impossible to navigate after a while when it's youtube and graphics heavy due to the fact that it loads nearly the entire thread when you are trying to reply. Other than that I have no issue with the sticky.

Unholyalliance said:

The thread just becomes impossible to navigate after a while when it's youtube and graphics heavy due to the fact that it loads nearly the entire thread when you are trying to reply. Other than that I have no issue with the sticky.

Can I request that from now on, if we wanna post videos, just post the link. Forget trying to embed it. The pictures are no problem but the video embeds, got damn.

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Timmy84 said:

Unholyalliance said:

The thread just becomes impossible to navigate after a while when it's youtube and graphics heavy due to the fact that it loads nearly the entire thread when you are trying to reply. Other than that I have no issue with the sticky.

Can I request that from now on, if we wanna post videos, just post the link. Forget trying to embed it. The pictures are no problem but the video embeds, got damn.

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No not needed. You can change an option which makes sure only the latest reply is shown when you reply. That's what I been running with since the stickies began. Solves it. Its at My Org>Forums> Then uncheck the option that says "Full Recap on Reply?".

NMuzakNSoul said:

Timmy84 said:

Can I request that from now on, if we wanna post videos, just post the link. Forget trying to embed it. The pictures are no problem but the video embeds, got damn.

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No not needed. You can change an option which makes sure only the latest reply is shown when you reply. That's what I been running with since the stickies began. Solves it. Its at My Org>Forums> Then uncheck the option that says "Full Recap on Reply?".

I've DONE that. But still somehow when I reply on some threads, the video lag still becomes a problem.

thanks for keeping the thread alive folks, i don't go anywhere else to discuss Mike.

Thanks for the tips. ^^^ I don't go anywhere else for MJ info either because MJ fansites always have too much drama going on. This is the only website I'd come for MJ info. I wish there could be a sub-forum for Michael too. I just don't understand the fact that we have general discussion forum where people talk about their personal problems, but we're not allowed post Michael videos here on Music;Non Prince...But oh well.

Timmy84 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

No not needed. You can change an option which makes sure only the latest reply is shown when you reply. That's what I been running with since the stickies began. Solves it. Its at My Org>Forums> Then uncheck the option that says "Full Recap on Reply?".

I've DONE that. But still somehow when I reply on some threads, the video lag still becomes a problem.

yup, me too.

I miss him so much though I realize it's the simpler time of enjoying him I miss more and associating his music with it, and the luxury of having the hope of seeing him someday cause of being alive at the same time now being gone.

alphastreet said:

I miss him so much though I realize it's the simpler time of enjoying him I miss more and associating his music with it, and the luxury of having the hope of seeing him someday cause of being alive at the same time now being gone.

well, i'll be perfectly frank, I think about the mistakes he made, the injustices he dealt with and the pain he must have felt, I personally only do that for family members or close friends, hoping to somehow learn or even avenge the wrongs done somehow for all the wasting of humanity.

Alpha, sometimes I wonder if you're a Jackson family member...

funky: I'm at peace that he's at peace, but not at peace with myself, does that make sense?

timmy: MOL doesn't hate me

alphastreet said:

funky: I'm at peace that he's at peace, but not at peace with myself, does that make sense?

timmy: MOL doesn't hate me

just give it time

bboy87 said:

alphastreet said:

funky: I'm at peace that he's at peace, but not at peace with myself, does that make sense?

timmy: MOL doesn't hate me

just give it time

wooooooooooooooooow...

alphastreet said:

funky: I'm at peace that he's at peace, but not at peace with myself, does that make sense?

timmy: MOL doesn't hate me

glad you are, my disposition has never made forgiveness an option, so, i hate when my loved ones die, i obsess over them and mourn the pain long after their gone. I believe my mom killed herself slowly because of how she was treated, Michael did the same thing.

I think he was slowly dying thanks to how he was treated over the years and murray was the final nail in the coffin. The others emotionally killed him, and he physically did. I think about this and start getting sad, but it is getting so much easier getting out of bed and telling myself to get a grip.

I'm not getting defensive when I ask you this, but do you think he killed himself? I don't believe he did, but it is one of the first thoughts I considered though I quickly dismissed it too, I had a million thoughts all at once, yet I felt very very empty and floaty when it was all happening, like an out of body thing, as if I was the one who died. In shock but also very calm though shaky, though later on, giddy cause I didn't know how to act. I was at peace he was at peace cause they gave that man a hard time but the minute I heard of Conrad, all hell broke loose, yet I couldn't admit what he did to him.

I even dreamt exactly a decade before the death that he killed himself and it felt so freaky and real, that I woke up and turned on the tv to make sure nothing really happened :*(

I refuse to live in a box of raisins I like smarties like michael and janet

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alphastreet said:

I think he was slowly dying thanks to how he was treated over the years and murray was the final nail in the coffin. The others emotionally killed him, and he physically did. I think about this and start getting sad, but it is getting so much easier getting out of bed and telling myself to get a grip.

I'm not getting defensive when I ask you this, but do you think he killed himself? I don't believe he did, but it is one of the first thoughts I considered though I quickly dismissed it too, I had a million thoughts all at once, yet I felt very very empty and floaty when it was all happening, like an out of body thing, as if I was the one who died. In shock but also very calm though shaky, though later on, giddy cause I didn't know how to act. I was at peace he was at peace cause they gave that man a hard time but the minute I heard of Conrad, all hell broke loose, yet I couldn't admit what he did to him.

I even dreamt exactly a decade before the death that he killed himself and it felt so freaky and real, that I woke up and turned on the tv to make sure nothing really happened :*(

suicide no, but self-destruction yes, lots and lots of people die from that. Stress, worries, problems make people do strange things to themselves.

mozfonky said:

alphastreet said:

I think he was slowly dying thanks to how he was treated over the years and murray was the final nail in the coffin. The others emotionally killed him, and he physically did. I think about this and start getting sad, but it is getting so much easier getting out of bed and telling myself to get a grip.

I'm not getting defensive when I ask you this, but do you think he killed himself? I don't believe he did, but it is one of the first thoughts I considered though I quickly dismissed it too, I had a million thoughts all at once, yet I felt very very empty and floaty when it was all happening, like an out of body thing, as if I was the one who died. In shock but also very calm though shaky, though later on, giddy cause I didn't know how to act. I was at peace he was at peace cause they gave that man a hard time but the minute I heard of Conrad, all hell broke loose, yet I couldn't admit what he did to him.

I even dreamt exactly a decade before the death that he killed himself and it felt so freaky and real, that I woke up and turned on the tv to make sure nothing really happened :*(

suicide no, but self-destruction yes, lots and lots of people die from that. Stress, worries, problems make people do strange things to themselves.

more like the body does strange things to you from all that....I have a lot of emotional problems myself and am trying so hard to change it so I could enjoy life better cause I have the opportunity to do it. But I just feel sad MJ isn't around, he always was :*( He kind of became a drug and I can recognize that it was to run away from my issues now.

Timmy84 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

No not needed. You can change an option which makes sure only the latest reply is shown when you reply. That's what I been running with since the stickies began. Solves it. Its at My Org>Forums> Then uncheck the option that says "Full Recap on Reply?".

I've DONE that. But still somehow when I reply on some threads, the video lag still becomes a problem.

Ah man Tim. Sucks.

I think that as an artist one of your biggest concerns is if your art will continue to live on even though you are gone since it's such a big part of you. So even though MJ may not, physically, be with us anymore his music and art are still here for us to enjoy. That way, I feel, that he is still with us, very much alive. By keeping the art alive you ensure that his memory lives on forever. By keeping his memory alive, you keep him alive.

NMuzakNSoul said:

Timmy84 said:

I've DONE that. But still somehow when I reply on some threads, the video lag still becomes a problem.

Ah man Tim. Sucks.

I know.

Unholyalliance said:

I think that as an artist one of your biggest concerns is if your art will continue to live on even though you are gone since it's such a big part of you. So even though MJ may not, physically, be with us anymore his music and art are still here for us to enjoy. That way, I feel, that he is still with us, very much alive. By keeping the art alive you ensure that his memory lives on forever. By keeping his memory alive, you keep him alive.

ya, i've heard of elvis and Michael asking people "how will they remember me?" and asking it in a tone as though they would be remembered as less than what they intended. Elvis, of course, worried about the many detours he took in his career, the army, the movies, sadly, on the whole, I think both went to their grave unaware of the renaissance and rediscovery that would come with their passings.

mozfonky said:

ya, i've heard of elvis and Michael asking people "how will they remember me?" and asking it in a tone as though they would be remembered as less than what they intended. Elvis, of course, worried about the many detours he took in his career, the army, the movies, sadly, on the whole, I think both went to their grave unaware of the renaissance and rediscovery that would come with their passings.

I think that both of them went to the their graves not realizing the impact that they made, especially since at the times of their deaths since they were way beyond their peaks and both turned into jokes by the media.

Like, for MJ he always let people know who his inspirations and influences were, but yet could he even wrap his head around all of the generations of people that he influence all across the globe, in kind? Like the way he felt about James Brown, there were a lot of artists, and others, who felt the same about him. I guess we'll never know, but somewhere...I would like to think that he did. Not that it makes a difference to me, but it's that kind of satisfied feeling you get when you know that you have lit a spark in someone else's eyes and inspired them to pursue the same art as well. It makes you want to work even harder I think. (Well, for me at least.)