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Britney Spears - "Femme Fatale"

So the new Britney album leaked. Just the regular 12 track edition so far, not the deluxe edition which will have a few more songs.

Initial thoughts, better than "Circus" but not as good as "Blackout". Not enough variation in the production styles, many tracks sound similar and a couple of songs could have been much better had they been produced in a different style.

About 5 or 6 really good songs, another handful of half-decent ones, and the rest is filler.

Highlights on first listen - "Till The World Ends", "Hold It Against Me", "I Wanna Go", "Seal It With A Kiss", "Big Fat Bass".

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Reply #1 posted 03/11/11 8:30pm

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Militant said:

So the new Britney album leaked. Just the regular 12 track edition so far, not the deluxe edition which will have a few more songs.

Initial thoughts, better than "Circus" but not as good as "Blackout". Not enough variation in the production styles, many tracks sound similar and a couple of songs could have been much better had they been produced in a different style.

About 5 or 6 really good songs, another handful of half-decent ones, and the rest is filler.

Highlights on first listen - "Till The World Ends", "Hold It Against Me", "I Wanna Go", "Seal It With A Kiss", "Big Fat Bass".

nod I agree. "Criminal" is good too.

1. Blackout

2. In The Zone

3. Femme Fatale

4. Britney

5. Circus

6. ...Baby One More Time

7. Oops!...I Did It Again

That's my rank. In The Zone's standouts "Toxic" "Everytime" Early Mornin" "Touch Of My Hand" "Breathe On Me" help it defeat Femme Fatale. Far superior. Blackout still tops. Pop perfection all the way through.

But it bumps past the Britney album to get a bronze placing. And that's pretty good for 7 recordings.

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Reply #2 posted 03/11/11 8:36pm

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I only like I wanna go and Seal it with a kiss.

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Reply #3 posted 03/11/11 8:39pm

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Militant said:

So the new Britney album leaked. Just the regular 12 track edition so far, not the deluxe edition which will have a few more songs.

Initial thoughts, better than "Circus" but not as good as "Blackout". Not enough variation in the production styles, many tracks sound similar and a couple of songs could have been much better had they been produced in a different style.

About 5 or 6 really good songs, another handful of half-decent ones, and the rest is filler.

Highlights on first listen - "Till The World Ends", "Hold It Against Me", "I Wanna Go", "Seal It With A Kiss", "Big Fat Bass".

And THAT^ surprised you?!? Come on now, Britney has always been a CD single-driven artist throughout her whole music career.

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Reply #4 posted 03/11/11 9:02pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Militant said:

So the new Britney album leaked. Just the regular 12 track edition so far, not the deluxe edition which will have a few more songs.

Initial thoughts, better than "Circus" but not as good as "Blackout". Not enough variation in the production styles, many tracks sound similar and a couple of songs could have been much better had they been produced in a different style.

About 5 or 6 really good songs, another handful of half-decent ones, and the rest is filler.

Highlights on first listen - "Till The World Ends", "Hold It Against Me", "I Wanna Go", "Seal It With A Kiss", "Big Fat Bass".

And THAT^ surprised you?!? Come on now, Britney has always been a CD single-driven artist throughout her whole music career.

I didn't say it surprised me. I liked about the same number of songs on "Circus" and "In The Zone". "Blackout" was an anomaly because I like almost every song on that album a lot, it's damn near flawless for me.

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Reply #5 posted 03/11/11 11:33pm

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Hold it Against Me

Inside Out (which SHOULD be the NEXT SINGLE)

Drop Dead Beautiful

Big Fat Bass

Trouble for Me

Are the only tracks I'm feeling at the moment. I find myself playing "Inside Out" over and over

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Reply #6 posted 03/12/11 12:57am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Hold it Against Me

Inside Out (which SHOULD be the NEXT SINGLE)

Drop Dead Beautiful

Big Fat Bass

Trouble for Me

Are the only tracks I'm feeling at the moment. I find myself playing "Inside Out" over and over

You don't like Till The World Ends?

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Reply #7 posted 03/12/11 5:19am

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I like the first two singles and criminal, I would love gasoline, but her awkward talking makes it a train wreck.
2012: The Queen Returns
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Reply #8 posted 03/12/11 7:44am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Hold it Against Me

Inside Out (which SHOULD be the NEXT SINGLE)

Drop Dead Beautiful

Big Fat Bass

Trouble for Me

Are the only tracks I'm feeling at the moment. I find myself playing "Inside Out" over and over

Inside Out is my jam!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #9 posted 03/12/11 8:38am

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TonyVanDam said:

Militant said:

So the new Britney album leaked. Just the regular 12 track edition so far, not the deluxe edition which will have a few more songs.

Initial thoughts, better than "Circus" but not as good as "Blackout". Not enough variation in the production styles, many tracks sound similar and a couple of songs could have been much better had they been produced in a different style.

About 5 or 6 really good songs, another handful of half-decent ones, and the rest is filler.

Highlights on first listen - "Till The World Ends", "Hold It Against Me", "I Wanna Go", "Seal It With A Kiss", "Big Fat Bass".

And THAT^ surprised you?!? Come on now, Britney has always been a CD single-driven artist throughout her whole music career.

That's an interesting, albeit inaccurate, perspective, Tony.

Jive rarely released a commercial single for Britney until the iTunes era - it's the primary reason why her singles did not achieve more consistent success on the Hot 100 until Blackout.

Meanwhile, she sold tens of millions of albums.

Doesn't sound like a CD-single-driven artist to me.

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Reply #10 posted 03/12/11 8:40am

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musicjunky318 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Hold it Against Me

Inside Out (which SHOULD be the NEXT SINGLE)

Drop Dead Beautiful

Big Fat Bass

Trouble for Me

Are the only tracks I'm feeling at the moment. I find myself playing "Inside Out" over and over

You don't like Till The World Ends?

I dont

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Spinlight said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Hold it Against Me

Inside Out (which SHOULD be the NEXT SINGLE)

Drop Dead Beautiful

Big Fat Bass

Trouble for Me

Are the only tracks I'm feeling at the moment. I find myself playing "Inside Out" over and over

Inside Out is my jam!!!!!!!!!!!

It's on repeat! That song is jammin!

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Reply #12 posted 03/12/11 9:12am

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I dont view Britney as a singles artist, because mainly through her career she hasnt been, sure she has had quite a few big hits , but by in large she is not this huge hit maker that people think she is, someone like Rihanna is way more a singles artist and radio friendly artist than Britney has ever been.

As for the album its good, better than Circus, and some cuts stronger than Black out but as said before some lacking in variation of theme and sounds. Hopefully the BONUS cuts dont sound like other tracks on this album because then it gets longer and a bit messy. Overall i would say an 8 out of 10.


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Reply #13 posted 03/12/11 9:45am

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VoicesCarry said:

TonyVanDam said:

And THAT^ surprised you?!? Come on now, Britney has always been a CD single-driven artist throughout her whole music career.

That's an interesting, albeit inaccurate, perspective, Tony.

Jive rarely released a commercial single for Britney until the iTunes era - it's the primary reason why her singles did not achieve more consistent success on the Hot 100 until Blackout.

Meanwhile, she sold tens of millions of albums.

Doesn't sound like a CD-single-driven artist to me.

Anytime you have an artist that is only give you an average of 3 to (maybe) 4 good tracks on an album while the rest of it is a bunch of lousy fillers, THAT is because the artist is a CD single-driven album. A album-driven artist would have made sure the (almost) every track on an album is a potential hit single, NOT just 3 to 4 tracks.

Think about it. wink

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lastdecember said:

Hopefully the BONUS cuts dont sound like other tracks on this album because then it gets longer and a bit messy.

I hope so. Purely based on the producers, I think the bonus tracks should have been on the main album, replacing some of the weaker Dr.Luke/Max Martin tracks in order for some variation.

Stargate and Rodney Jerkins have production credits on some of the bonus tracks, but they don't have any tracks on the main album.

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lastdecember said:

I dont view Britney as a singles artist, because mainly through her career she hasnt been, sure she has had quite a few big hits , but by in large she is not this huge hit maker that people think she is, someone like Rihanna is way more a singles artist and radio friendly artist than Britney has ever been.

As for the album its good, better than Circus, and some cuts stronger than Black out but as said before some lacking in variation of theme and sounds. Hopefully the BONUS cuts dont sound like other tracks on this album because then it gets longer and a bit messy. Overall i would say an 8 out of 10.

Within Britney's first 4 career albums, I would disagree with you. She was definitely an hitmaker within that time flame. But overall, you're right. Rihanna has definitely suppassed Britney in the single-driven catagory.

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TonyVanDam said:

lastdecember said:

I dont view Britney as a singles artist, because mainly through her career she hasnt been, sure she has had quite a few big hits , but by in large she is not this huge hit maker that people think she is, someone like Rihanna is way more a singles artist and radio friendly artist than Britney has ever been.

As for the album its good, better than Circus, and some cuts stronger than Black out but as said before some lacking in variation of theme and sounds. Hopefully the BONUS cuts dont sound like other tracks on this album because then it gets longer and a bit messy. Overall i would say an 8 out of 10.

Within Britney's first 4 career albums, I would disagree with you. She was definitely an hitmaker within that time flame. But overall, you're right. Rihanna has definitely suppassed Britney in the single-driven catagory.

Britney was purposely marketed to sell albums from day one and has a sketchered single history on the charts as a result. Even ...Baby One More Time, Toxic, and Hold It Against Me, her three biggest songs on radio failed to crack 100 million in audience impressions which is something less successful artists have done on numerous occasions.

Several of her singles weren't given proper physical releases deliberately in order to spike CD sales. Hence, someone like Christina Aguilera was able to collect more #1's and had a better run on the Hot 100 earlier on yet didn't match Britney's album sales.

I personally think it's genius. Why mind it at all when the goal really is to get the CD itself in the public's hands? You know, who cares that Sometimes & Crazy didn't crack the Top 5. Her debut did 14 million domestically anyway.

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Reply #17 posted 03/12/11 10:39am

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this is the first Britney album to ever let me down. I keep listening to it but I'm just not getting it at all. It sounds sketchy and lacking in melodies to me.

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TonyVanDam said:

lastdecember said:

I dont view Britney as a singles artist, because mainly through her career she hasnt been, sure she has had quite a few big hits , but by in large she is not this huge hit maker that people think she is, someone like Rihanna is way more a singles artist and radio friendly artist than Britney has ever been.

As for the album its good, better than Circus, and some cuts stronger than Black out but as said before some lacking in variation of theme and sounds. Hopefully the BONUS cuts dont sound like other tracks on this album because then it gets longer and a bit messy. Overall i would say an 8 out of 10.

Within Britney's first 4 career albums, I would disagree with you. She was definitely an hitmaker within that time flame. But overall, you're right. Rihanna has definitely suppassed Britney in the single-driven catagory.

Well the first 4 i will agree, though that was still in part on singles sales not airplay for the most part singles were still available physically in stores, but i think when it got to the In The Zone her focus was more on records and i have to say, think what you want of her, her albums since In the ZOne far exceed almost any female artist out there, they are basically very good full albums, earlier i wouldnt say that, there were 4-5 singles and then the albums rarely had a strong album cut, but once in the zone came out, tracks like "Early Mornin" and a slew of other album cuts have been strong along with the singles released, so its made the albums stonger records.


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this is the first Britney album to ever let me down. I keep listening to it but I'm just not getting it at all. It sounds sketchy and lacking in melodies to me.

It's the production. It's all the same shit. This is basically another Ke$ha album. She needs to use different producers. She peaked with Black Out which had a fantastic mix of producers but this Dr. Luke/Max Martin shit is so played out. They have taken some great elements from a variety of dance music and watered the fuck out of it and slammed it all together on a bunch of artists albums.

Hopefully she works with some new people on her next release.

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JustErin said:

Rayan said:

this is the first Britney album to ever let me down. I keep listening to it but I'm just not getting it at all. It sounds sketchy and lacking in melodies to me.

It's the production. It's all the same shit. This is basically another Ke$ha album. She needs to use different producers. She peaked with Black Out which had a fantastic mix of producers but this Dr. Luke/Max Martin shit is so played out. They have taken some great elements from a variety of dance music and watered the fuck out of it and slammed it all together on a bunch of artists albums.

Hopefully she works with some new people on her next release.

this seems to be exactly it. the music here sounds like a lot of things going on just because they could. it's as if they got too busy trying to create a grand club sound and ended up forgetting about the actual melodies, which Max Martin is supposed to be good with.

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Too many people involved on some of these tracks. Look at the production credits, most songs on there have been produced by at least three different people. At least one song has FOUR people credited for the production. Some of them have songwriting credits to six songwriters. It just seems like overkill. Most of Blackout was produced by Danja, on his own (5 tracks), and Bloodshy/Avant (who work as a songwriting/production duo) on a lot of the others.

Some of the songs on this album are just lost in the over-production. At least two songs I thought should have had drastically different production rather than the same 4/4 house beat that's on most of the album.

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Reply #22 posted 03/12/11 1:47pm

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JustErin said:

Rayan said:

this is the first Britney album to ever let me down. I keep listening to it but I'm just not getting it at all. It sounds sketchy and lacking in melodies to me.

It's the production. It's all the same shit. This is basically another Ke$ha album. She needs to use different producers. She peaked with Black Out which had a fantastic mix of producers but this Dr. Luke/Max Martin shit is so played out. They have taken some great elements from a variety of dance music and watered the fuck out of it and slammed it all together on a bunch of artists albums.

Hopefully she works with some new people on her next release.

yeahthat nod

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People need to stop comparing everything to blackout I don’t think Britney will ever put out another blackout some artists just have those once in a life time albums and funny I find myself listening to in the zone way more than blackout. From what I heard from Femme Fatale I like it, I will be buying it.

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And Big Fat Bass is one of the worse tracks on there alot of people hate it.

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babybugz said:

And Big Fat Bass is one of the worse tracks on there alot of people hate it.

It's actually one of my favorite songs and I've heard a lot of people say the same too.

With Will-I-Am - he has a unique sound and style that's instantly recognisable, and it's VERY polarising. People generally either love or hate his stuff, there is rarely an inbetween. That's why you see a fuck-ton of hate online for Black Eyed Peas - yet they sell shitloads of records. Still have the biggest selling digital single ever, packing out stadiums all over the world.

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I'm liking this album. It's definitely better than Circus. The people saying that it's better than Blackout, have to be on crack. It's not topping Blackout. Sorry.

I'm a little disappointed that Danja's tracks didn't make the album.

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Militant said:

babybugz said:

And Big Fat Bass is one of the worse tracks on there alot of people hate it.

It's actually one of my favorite songs and I've heard a lot of people say the same too.

With Will-I-Am - he has a unique sound and style that's instantly recognisable, and it's VERY polarising. People generally either love or hate his stuff, there is rarely an inbetween. That's why you see a fuck-ton of hate online for Black Eyed Peas - yet they sell shitloads of records. Still have the biggest selling digital single ever, packing out stadiums all over the world.

It depends on who you ask but I seen a lot say it’s the worse track I heard some of it when it first was a snippet and wasn’t feeling it I do like Black eyed peas (not the new stuff though smh) .

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babybugz said:

Militant said:

It's actually one of my favorite songs and I've heard a lot of people say the same too.

With Will-I-Am - he has a unique sound and style that's instantly recognisable, and it's VERY polarising. People generally either love or hate his stuff, there is rarely an inbetween. That's why you see a fuck-ton of hate online for Black Eyed Peas - yet they sell shitloads of records. Still have the biggest selling digital single ever, packing out stadiums all over the world.

It depends on who you ask but I seen a lot say it’s the worse track I heard some of it when it first was a snippet and wasn’t feeling it I do like Black eyed peas (not the new stuff though smh) .

Yeah, I'm just saying that it seems people either love it or hate it. Which happens quite a lot with Will's stuff.

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Militant said:

babybugz said:

And Big Fat Bass is one of the worse tracks on there alot of people hate it.

It's actually one of my favorite songs and I've heard a lot of people say the same too.

With Will-I-Am - he has a unique sound and style that's instantly recognisable, and it's VERY polarising. People generally either love or hate his stuff, there is rarely an inbetween. That's why you see a fuck-ton of hate online for Black Eyed Peas (mostly because of Fergie) - yet they sell shitloads of records. Still have the biggest selling digital single ever, packing out stadiums all over the world.

There, that's more honest! lol

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