My sister and I are going back and forth as I'm trying to get her to realize that "Body" is VERY similar to Wanna be Starting Something. She just doesn't seem to get it.

You got your "owww" in the beginning, you got your "yah yah yah yah" chant in Body which is similar to "Too high to get over (yeah yeah) too low to get under (yeah yeah)...." And the rhythm and bassline are very similar also.

I'm not sure what the history is behind MJ not recording Body but starting his own album around the same time but I'm sure there is a reason for these songs being very similar. Anyhow, anyone else see the similarities???

Just watch the video. I think it'll tell all you want to know. Just remember...you asked for this. I cannot be held responsible for any uncontrollable fits of laughter that may ensue.

smh..lol...what makes you think I've never seen this before. I never really payed attention to the cheeziness though until now. I just like watching Marlon, Jackie dance at the end. But...this does not answer my question....

funkycoolmasina said:

smh..lol...what makes you think I've never seen this before. I never really payed attention to the cheeziness though until now. I just like watching Marlon, Jackie dance at the end. But...this does not answer my question....

Dealer passes.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

funkycoolmasina said:

smh..lol...what makes you think I've never seen this before. I never really payed attention to the cheeziness though until now. I just like watching Marlon, Jackie dance at the end. But...this does not answer my question....

Dealer passes.

Well, atleast answer my question. Do you see the similarities between this song and WBSS? Come on...You can do it!

This similarity goes all the way back to 1977 with The Jacksons "Different Kind of Lady."

LittleBLUECorvette said:

This similarity goes all the way back to 1977 with The Jacksons "Different Kind of Lady."

Hmmm...might gonna wanna listen to that one. Never heard it before.

The chant on Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' comes from here:

This is the song mentioned above.

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Besides the fast rhythm i don't hear or recognize much other instrumental or vocal similarities.

I FREAKING LOVE THIS SONG!

it just feels.....reeeeeeal good, like a brighter toned WBSS (not saying its better or anything, its just has a lighter, tropical tint to it)

I love the break down at the end with the guitar.

the video, which i just discovered a couple of years ago, ruined it for me a LIL bit.....a LIL bit

funkycoolmasina said:

My sister and I are going back and forth as I'm trying to get her to realize that "Body" is VERY similar to Wanna be Starting Something. She just doesn't seem to get it.

You got your "owww" in the beginning, you got your "yah yah yah yah" chant in Body which is similar to "Too high to get over (yeah yeah) too low to get under (yeah yeah)...." And the rhythm and bassline are very similar also.

I'm not sure what the history is behind MJ not recording Body but starting his own album around the same time but I'm sure there is a reason for these songs being very similar. Anyhow, anyone else see the similarities???

It reminds me of "Nasty Girls", more than anything else...

DUMB song. Obviously the weak-link on Victory and should have been left off.

musicjunky318 said:

DUMB song. Obviously the weak-link on Victory and should have been left off.

I agree.It's a generic song with a chorus that rips off Michael's own "Wanna Be Startin Something".I can certainly see why Michael didn't want to appear in the video.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Just watch the video. I think it'll tell all you want to know. Just remember...you asked for this. I cannot be held responsible for any uncontrollable fits of laughter that may ensue.

this video is an embarassment for all involved

SoulAlive said:

MickyDolenz said:

The chant on Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' comes from here:

This is the song mentioned above.

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I made a thread a while back called similar sounding Jacksons riff. Started with Different Kind of Lady (1977) to Another Part of Me (1987.)

DIFFERENT KIND OF LADY: The Jacksons (1977)


-The first of the Jackson riff. By all of the bros.
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THINGS I DO FOR YOU: The Jacksons (1978)


-Very similar to "Different Kind of Lady" more produced. Also by all the bros.
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SHAKE YOUR BODY (DOWN TO THE GROUND): The Jacksons (1978)


-The ultimate 'Jacksons riff' song. Michael and Randy take over for this one.
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DON'T STOP TIL YOU GET ENOUGH: Michael Jackson (1979)


-The biggest hit by the riff with Quincy on top. Mike alone (with help from Randy)
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WORKIN' DAY AND NIGHT: Michael Jackson (1979)


-Another one, this one from Mike.
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SUNSET DRIVER: Michael Jackson (1979)

-Outtake from Off The Wall.
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LOVELY ONE: The Jacksons (1980)


-"Shake Your Body, pt II." You can here that and "Different kind of Lady" on this tune. Mike and Randy at the helm for this tune also.

HEARTBREAK HOTEL: The Jacksons (1980)


-Mike solo on a Jacksons record.
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WANNA BE STARTIN' SOMETHIN': Michael Jackson (1982)


-It's back, on another Mike record. Song was originally for 'Off the Wall.'
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BODY: The Jacksons (1984)


-Marlon takes over for this Jacksons single.
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ALL MY LOVE TO YOU: Janet Jackson (1984)


-Marlon is back, this time producing for baby sis Janet.
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ANOTHER PART OF ME: Michael Jackson (1987)


-The last appearance of 'the Jacksons sound'.
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If there is any other songs I missed out on, feel free to let your voice be heard.

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funkycoolmasina said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree.It's a generic song with a chorus that rips off Michael's own "Wanna Be Startin Something".I can certainly see why Michael didn't want to appear in the video.

Soooo...what ur saying is they copies? I thought so.

But Mike got sued by Manu Dibango for not being credited on Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'. Manu won the case and recieved royalties. Billie Jean copies the rhythm from I Can't Go For That from Hall and Oates. Quincy Jones himself said Beat It was based on My Sharona. The unreleased song Place With No Name comes from the 1970's light rock band America's Horse With No Name. So Mike got inspiration from other songs.

funkycoolmasina said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree.It's a generic song with a chorus that rips off Michael's own "Wanna Be Startin Something".I can certainly see why Michael didn't want to appear in the video.

Soooo...what ur saying is they copies? I thought so.

Yes,they copied The brothers saw all the amazing success that Michael had with 'Thriller' and they tried to copy it.The "Torture" video looks alot like the "Thriller" video.

MickyDolenz said:

funkycoolmasina said:

SoulAlive said: Soooo...what ur saying is they copies? I thought so.

But Mike got sued by Manu Dibango for not being credited on Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'. Manu won the case and recieved royalties. Billie Jean copies the rhythm from I Can't Go For That from Hall and Oates. Quincy Jones himself said Beat It was based on My Sharona. The unreleased song Place With No Name comes from the 1970's light rock band America's Horse With No Name. So Mike got inspiration from other songs.

Believe it or not, Manu sued again, when Rihanna used it for, "Please don't stop the music". I don't know what happened, though.

Thanks guys for all your replies and assisting me with proving my sister wrong once again. Pow!!

Body also sounds like Let's Hear It For The Boy! Give it to the Jacksons for spreading their influence just as Prince and Rick James did haha!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Just watch the video. I think it'll tell all you want to know. Just remember...you asked for this. I cannot be held responsible for any uncontrollable fits of laughter that may ensue.

This song is such an 80s cheesy recording.To me it does sound like Wanna Be Startin Somethin. Its terrible but it was at one time my guilty pleasure. I dont think Michael had anything to do with this record.

The video is god awful. Its funny to see Randy in those striped pants shake his round ass like a woman. Tito did his best to keep up with choreography at least he didnt have a guitar in his hands. Jackie looks handsome so does Marlon. Thank God Jermaine wasnt in it. Also toward the end of the song it sounds like Marlon is 'wheezin' like he had a bad cold. lol You cant watch this video now with a straight face.

i used to like this cheesy song....

Shango said:

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Wow! didn't know the late Michael Peters did this video. Marlon was on fire in this....

MickyDolenz said:

i always thought this song had an isley bros. kind of feel.

I found it funny that a lot of r&b dudes rode motorcycles in their videos after a certain someone rode his in a movie.

SPYZFAN1 said:

I found it funny that a lot of r&b dudes rode motorcycles in their videos after a certain someone rode his in a movie.

Very true.I noticed that to..

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Just watch the video. I think it'll tell all you want to know. Just remember...you asked for this. I cannot be held responsible for any uncontrollable fits of laughter that may ensue.

I can't even lie - I always did love this song.

When I had the disc I used to blast this....

I used to love this song!! Yeah, it had a familiar sound, but I felt that way about many of the Jackons' songs.