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Reply #30 posted 01/20/11 12:10pm

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MickyDolenz said:

TonyVanDam said:

Taco would strongly agree.

Was there more than one video for this? I've never noticed that before. I remember several songs in the 1980's had 2 different music videos.

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Reply #31 posted 01/20/11 12:12pm

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Unholyalliance said:

TonyVanDam said:

[img:$uid]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Wolfgang-amadeus-mozart_1-revert.jpg[/img:$uid]

And THIS^ man was a definite pop star in his days of classical.

Ok, so this what I thought, but others I have been talking to scoff at the idea that classical music was considered pop music in its day. I don't know if that that's the elitist in them talking, but they say that classical music was considered to be the music of the very rich and privileged. The more common music of the day was folk music.

Also, I just want to talk about how people are claiming that pop music of today seems to be in decline, because, if I remember correctly, pop music back in Elvis's day was considered to be 'not real music' too if I'm not mistaken. The same thing with jazz, the beat generation, and etc. I mean...isn't that how it usually goes? The older generation can't accept the new pop music and the younger ones reject the older stuff? Then, somewhere there's a revival of the old stuff and it just gets recycled again or something brand new comes out of it?

I mean we're going through a eruodance/trance/electro pop inspired era, but all of that was inspired by disco which, I believe, originated in America back in the 1970s no? Am I mistaken on this?

Remember, "pop" is code for "popular".

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Reply #32 posted 01/20/11 12:23pm

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Unholyalliance said:

TonyVanDam said:

[img:$uid]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Wolfgang-amadeus-mozart_1-revert.jpg[/img:$uid]

And THIS^ man was a definite pop star in his days of classical.

Ok, so this what I thought, but others I have been talking to scoff at the idea that classical music was considered pop music in its day. I don't know if that that's the elitist in them talking, but they say that classical music was considered to be the music of the very rich and privileged. The more common music of the day was folk music.

Also, I just want to talk about how people are claiming that pop music of today seems to be in decline, because, if I remember correctly, pop music back in Elvis's day was considered to be 'not real music' too if I'm not mistaken. The same thing with jazz, the beat generation, and etc. I mean...isn't that how it usually goes? The older generation can't accept the new pop music and the younger ones reject the older stuff? Then, somewhere there's a revival of the old stuff and it just gets recycled again or something brand new comes out of it?

I mean we're going through a eruodance/trance/electro pop inspired era, but all of that was inspired by disco which, I believe, originated in America back in the 1970s no? Am I mistaken on this?

the style that Mozart wrote in (Classical) was actually based on a very folky style of music that was initially looked down upon as simplistic after Bach's achievements in Baroque.

Later in his life, Mozart was famously accused of using "too many notes" as he elevated the style to something more than what it had been. So it was not exactly "pop" music at the end of his life.

But like Rock & Roll or Jazz, Classical grew out of a popular movement that trickled upward to the more edumacated composers. That is how you might compare Prince to Mozart or Beatles to Beethoven for how they elevated their respective forms.

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Reply #33 posted 01/21/11 7:02pm

Timmy84

NDRU said:

Unholyalliance said:

Ok, so this what I thought, but others I have been talking to scoff at the idea that classical music was considered pop music in its day. I don't know if that that's the elitist in them talking, but they say that classical music was considered to be the music of the very rich and privileged. The more common music of the day was folk music.

Also, I just want to talk about how people are claiming that pop music of today seems to be in decline, because, if I remember correctly, pop music back in Elvis's day was considered to be 'not real music' too if I'm not mistaken. The same thing with jazz, the beat generation, and etc. I mean...isn't that how it usually goes? The older generation can't accept the new pop music and the younger ones reject the older stuff? Then, somewhere there's a revival of the old stuff and it just gets recycled again or something brand new comes out of it?

I mean we're going through a eruodance/trance/electro pop inspired era, but all of that was inspired by disco which, I believe, originated in America back in the 1970s no? Am I mistaken on this?

the style that Mozart wrote in (Classical) was actually based on a very folky style of music that was initially looked down upon as simplistic after Bach's achievements in Baroque.

Later in his life, Mozart was famously accused of using "too many notes" as he elevated the style to something more than what it had been. So it was not exactly "pop" music at the end of his life.

But like Rock & Roll or Jazz, Classical grew out of a popular movement that trickled upward to the more edumacated composers. That is how you might compare Prince to Mozart or Beatles to Beethoven for how they elevated their respective forms.

I can actually agree that Mozart was indeed the first pop artist from the descriptions I'm getting. nod

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Reply #34 posted 01/24/11 11:54am

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Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:

the style that Mozart wrote in (Classical) was actually based on a very folky style of music that was initially looked down upon as simplistic after Bach's achievements in Baroque.

Later in his life, Mozart was famously accused of using "too many notes" as he elevated the style to something more than what it had been. So it was not exactly "pop" music at the end of his life.

But like Rock & Roll or Jazz, Classical grew out of a popular movement that trickled upward to the more edumacated composers. That is how you might compare Prince to Mozart or Beatles to Beethoven for how they elevated their respective forms.

I can actually agree that Mozart was indeed the first pop artist from the descriptions I'm getting. nod

I wouldn't say he's the first pop artist (any folk musician is doing pop music IMO), but he is definintely an early example of a famous one.

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Reply #35 posted 01/24/11 12:10pm

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TonyVanDam said:

[img:$uid]http://blogs.sun.com/vr/resource/LouisArmstrong.jpg[/img:$uid]

Even at the height of the Jim Crow era in the USA, THIS^ man had a fanbase of a pop star in the genre known as jazz.

[img:$uid]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Wolfgang-amadeus-mozart_1-revert.jpg[/img:$uid]

And THIS^ man was a definite pop star in his days of classical.



And THIS man below would beg to differ with you! lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #36 posted 01/24/11 1:17pm

Timmy84

^ I feel like someone is going to go back EVEN FURTHER! lol

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Reply #37 posted 01/24/11 1:28pm

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Maybe it is him, since his name is Pops. lol

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #38 posted 01/24/11 1:36pm

Timmy84

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Maybe it is him, since his name is Pops. lol

OK now you're getting REAL silly. lol

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