Hey MJJStudent! Welcome!

I know I'm a little late for this but when I came in here and saw the new recruit, I just had to say hi!

seeingvoices12 said:

I still want this so bad.....

Same here... I've had this on repeat often the last 4 days again.

Dr. Freeze said Blue Gangster and A Place With No Name will be on the next album

thetimefan said:

I can't see where Behind the Mask would fit it on Thriller, unless you added it as an additional song. Side B is probably the strongest side with 'Beat It', 'Billie Jean', 'Human Nature', 'PYT' & 'Lady in My Life' so none of those are replaceable IMO. Maybe it could have fit in somewhere on Side A but 'Wanna Be Startin Somethin' is a strong opening track and Thriller is the title track and not replaceable as that would have altered the albums theme, but perhaps BTM could have followed Wanna Be Startin Somethin?, although I like 'Baby Be Mine'. Perhaps you could have replaced 'The Girl Is Mine' with BTM?, but again it's MJ and Paul McCartney collaboration.

I think if they made a second Thriller disc they could have included:

1. Love Never Felt So Good

2. Got The Hots

3. Girl Is Mine (MJ solo version)

4. Starlight

5. Trouble

6. For All Time

7. Carousel

8. Behind the Mask

9. Lady in My Life (Extended version)

Thriller was a whole different album before "Beat It" "Lady in my Life" "Billie Jean" and "Human Nature" came into play. Behind The Mask doesn't fit the direction of the Thriller album we all know, but it's possible it was in the right direction before the new records were added.

Songs like Trouble and Carousel were some of the original tracks meant for the album and Love Never Felt So Good wasn't recorded until 1983 and is a demo for Johnny Mathis, so that record doesn't count.

Got The Hots sounds like Baby Be Mine and PYT had a baby and would have made a great addition to the album, but would have been better off as a B-Side

Songs like "Hot Street" (which was one of MJ's personal favorites) would have been nice to hear but it reminded me of Thriller with the vocal arrangements.

Ooh bad boy Mikey LOL

bboy87 said:

Dr. Freeze said Blue Gangster and A Place With No Name will be on the next album

Where'd you find that out, Jay?

Cuz if that's true

"A Place Without No Name" sounds a lot like America's "A Horse With No Name" (or at least the guitar riffs do)

Just sayin'...

[Edited 2/2/11 9:08am]

SherryJackson said:

"A Place Without No Name" sounds a lot like America's "A Horse With No Name" (or at least the guitar riffs do)

Just sayin'...

[Edited 2/2/11 9:08am]

It was already acknowledged that it was sampled from the America song.

Timmy84 said:

SherryJackson said:

"A Place Without No Name" sounds a lot like America's "A Horse With No Name" (or at least the guitar riffs do)

Just sayin'...

[Edited 2/2/11 9:08am]

It was already acknowledged that it was sampled from the America song.

Also approved and honored by America.

Timmy84 said:

SherryJackson said:

"A Place Without No Name" sounds a lot like America's "A Horse With No Name" (or at least the guitar riffs do)

Just sayin'...

[Edited 2/2/11 9:08am]

It was already acknowledged that it was sampled from the America song.

Alright so I didn't know that!!!!...

I've been gone from here too long. Damn school...

SherryJackson said:

bboy87 said:

Dr. Freeze said Blue Gangster and A Place With No Name will be on the next album

Where'd you find that out, Jay?

Cuz if that's true

They should have been on MICHAEL.

A Place Without No Name would mean that indeed the Place has a name - damn double negatives.

Swa said:

A Place Without No Name would mean that indeed the Place has a name - damn double negatives.

Actually, a plac with no name is right. There could be a place, it just doesn't have a name.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

SherryJackson said:

Where'd you find that out, Jay?

Cuz if that's true

They should have been on MICHAEL.

Totally bro.....but hey what you gonna do? Dimwits run the show...

Patrick Stump's MJ acapella tribute:

[Edited 2/2/11 19:21pm]

^^ that wasn't playing so

Anyone know why MJ said "Tom Sneddon" on the song "D.S", but changd it to "Dom Sheldon" when he performed the song during HIStory tour?

bboy87 said:

Dr. Freeze said Blue Gangster and A Place With No Name will be on the next album

Yeah..I read that too. I like "Blue Gangsta" alot as well.

Claire73 said:

Ooh bad boy Mikey LOL

When I first heard this...about 30 seconds into it I felt like this could be a demo to "Superfly Sister"

ViintageJunkiie said:

Anyone know why MJ said "Tom Sneddon" on the song "D.S", but changd it to "Dom Sheldon" when he performed the song during HIStory tour?

Well..I'd figure that he changed it to Dom Sheldon because he could've gotten into some type of legal trouble if he hadn't?

ViintageJunkiie said:

Anyone know why MJ said "Tom Sneddon" on the song "D.S", but changd it to "Dom Sheldon" when he performed the song during HIStory tour?

I assume it can only be for legal reasons - defamation etc. I think that's why the lyrics to D.S. are one of the few included in the HiStory booklet. anyone listening, and familiar, with the case knew what was going on. The press even mentioned it in the lead up to 95 stating that it seemed the over zealous Sneddon was out for revenge.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Swa said:

A Place Without No Name would mean that indeed the Place has a name - damn double negatives.

Actually, a plac with no name is right. There could be a place, it just doesn't have a name.

Yes a place with no name is right - but if sung as a place *without* no name - brings us back to the double negative, lol.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Anyone know why MJ said "Tom Sneddon" on the song "D.S", but changd it to "Dom Sheldon" when he performed the song during HIStory tour?

He didn't. He just mimed to the original recording. And if you read his lips he is still actually saying "Tom Sneddon."

LittleBLUECorvette said:

thesexofit said:

Big fan of Jackie Jackson's "Be the one" album from 1989. Love the production on it. It's poppy, but it's more consistant then Randy and the gypsy's album I feel, and that is mainly thanks to it being produced, co-written and mainly played by Robert Brookins (Earth wind and fire, Bobby Brown, Dale Bozzio...) As he helped produce and co-write pretty much every track (aswell as even help mix a few of them), it's no surprise that the album is abit samey, but if you liked "stay", you should pick it up.

I've had it for many years now and it surprises me how good it is. Sure Jackie doesn't have half the voice of Robert Brookins, who was a great and underated vocalist, but he sounds good enough on the slow jam "stuck on you" though, and sounds fine on the more uptempo tracks. MOR ballad "Broken heart" is a nice change of pace too, proving Brookins can help write and produce more MOR material to a decent standard aswell.

Funny, Robert Brookins did a track called "Code blue" that he produced off his own album called "let it be me" (an album all about the slowjams), and it sounds alot like the work on Jackie's album, released just one year after Robert's. Sort of like a dry run LOL.

I dig Roberts synth solo in the middle of the song.

Robert Brookins "Code blue"

I liked Jackie's album (it's better than Marlon's Baby Tonight), but he even said Randy had the best album in 1989. Well, he said it's better than Rhythm Nation.

Yes, I prefer it alot to Marlon's album, though Marlons album is good considering he has a weak voice. Luckily it's buried in synths, overdubs and drum programming (and I think about only one ballad on the whole set).

Still, considering he produced it (with co-producers granted) and didn't use any big name producers or songwriters (he wrote most of the songs aswell including "baby tonight" and "don't go", the 2 best tracks), I think the album is surprisenly strong. It's true, you do have to like the dated production (fans of Mic Murphy and David Frank should like some of it), but I really like a handful of the tracks. "She never cried" and life" are fun tracks aswell.

The CD had a bonus track, though it's not very good. His track I have from "The golden child" OST was Ok aswell.

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SherryJackson said:

Hey MJJStudent! Welcome!

I know I'm a little late for this but when I came in here and saw the new recruit, I just had to say hi!

THANKS! hello to you!

Unholyalliance said:

MJJstudent said:

i heard the album in full on the sony site (which was the ONLY way i was gonna hear it- because i wasn't buying it either)- and i consider it to be the worst album i have ever heard in my life. people say, 'what do you mean? there are worse albums, for sure...' the thing is, i am not even thinking of the songs (which i think are pretty pedestrian at best). i am thinking more of the intention. most 'bad' albums are just that. they are meant to be produced for mass consumption, with no value other than that. this 'michael' album was produced with the intention of exploiting the name of a man whose legacy and message is the polar opposite than what they produced.

and invincible is actually one of my four favourite albums of michael's. it is a work which shows his maturity and state of fatherhood. it's also an album which seems to lend to a sort of resignation. he was pretty open in saying that that would be his final album.

Hi and welcome. Nice to see you around. Though, I would still try to remember that even as someone who is studying him, his career, and music that you need to make a clear distinction between your own interpretations and why may actually be the truth. Interpretations are still reflective of the interpreters feelings and personality rather than the subject. This also includes his music as well, especially since it's still art even if someone thinks that just because it's pop music it hold less artistic value for some reason.

[Edited 1/31/11 7:48am]

hello... i agree with you about making the distinctions; however, i didn't really state facts though. everything i said was clearly my opinion. the thing about the truth though, is that we all interpret different events and truths according to our perspectives and experiences. say, for instance; a dog runs across the street. some will say the dog jogged, others will say paced. or politically, some say obama is a socialist and others say he's an imperialist. he's still taking the same actions, it's just how we all interpret it.

but what i said here, i didn't really state facts. i like to post links and other sorts of information, in relation to facts. i am a strong-minded person and feel quite strongly about my teacher... i do actually get a lot of grief for my views on him. in terms of art, that is relative. i think most art today is vapid; others i know think it's great. it's all up for interpretation. you are absolutely correct. thanks...

Militant said:

MJJstudent is a friend of mine and a good person! I told her to come here because we have good discussions without all the bullshit you get on MJ forums. Nice to see you posting J

HEY!!! how are you??!! i like the discussions here, for sure.

Militant said:

this is such a sweet story... he brought such a gift to people, they don't even realize it. his eyes are always so beautiful... he has the saddest eyes i have ever seen.

dag said:

What a beautiful song.

'to know' and 'darling dear' are my two favourite jackson 5 songs.

WildStyle said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Anyone know why MJ said "Tom Sneddon" on the song "D.S", but changd it to "Dom Sheldon" when he performed the song during HIStory tour?

He didn't. He just mimed to the original recording. And if you read his lips he is still actually saying "Tom Sneddon."

holy fuck

honestly, ive never heard anyone sound Exactly like MJ until now. This is fucking spooky!

just listen to this, its fucking identical to MJ.